Video: INC'S stand about the RH BILL

Here is a video from the program Ang Tamang Daan of the Iglesia ni Cristo, and the topic is about the rh bill and what the bible teaches...

Before watching the video, pls. first be OPEN MINDED, if you cant, JUST IGNORE THIS VIDEO. thank you...

I also have searched a video about 'filipinos support life', there is also a priest there i think, that SUPPORTS RH BILL EVEN HE WILL BE EXCOMMUNICATED, he further said that even that will be happened, he should decide with his conscience

(so, this is the result of the catholic church's DECIDE BASED ON YOUR CONSCIENCE, haha even it is against in the teachings of the church! Catholics, rock and roll! where every catholic criticize inc's block voting because they say ministers dictates members, no, no, no! it is following church's doctrines that is based from the bible! so it will result to unity! and no division among members. And what's happening in the Catholic church is contrary to the INC, THEY ARE ALL DIVIDED! IS THAT CHRIST'S TRUE CHURCH? EACH WITH DIFFERENT BELIEFS AND PRINCIPLES?^^)

here it is:

"God blessed them; and God said to them, "Be fruitful and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it; ..." Gen. 1:28

Iglesia ni Cristo debate ADD

Eliseo Soriano, founder of the Members church of god international is always wanting of a debate one on one in the time of Bro. Erano Manalo, but doesnt challenge other leader of some churches!

Every member of Soriano's church always say that Iglesia ni Cristo ministers especially Bro. Erano Manalo are all coward on debating to Eliseo Soriano, is it true?

Is it also true that Bro. Erano Manalo, when he was living is afraid on debating to Eliseo Soriano?

Is it true that ministers and Bro. Manalo are hiding and dont want to debate Eliseo Soriano?

Well, the question is, who is the REAL COWARD, THAT DOESNT WANT TO DEBATE?

THE CHALLENGE AND CONDITIONS

This is a video of a minister asking Soriano what is the "Holy kiss" in Romans 16:16, poor Mr. Soriano was shocked and takes a long time to answer the minister.

Evangelical workers of ADD didnt show on the debate!
WHAT A SHAME

MR. ELISEO SORIANO: THE REAL COWARD!

I know the church of Soriano still saying and pointing out that it is the Iglesia ni Cristo ministers and especially Bro. Manalo is the cowards and doesnt want to debate Eliseo Soriano, tsk. WRONG!

It is Soriano himself is the real coward, how?

WHERE IS HE NOW! IM ASKING ALL THE MEMBERS OF ADD OF SORIANO, WHERE IS ELI SORIANO NOW?

Who the one is really hiding? Is it Bro. Manalo and ministers or Eliseo Soriano?
wait, before ending this, why is it that Bro. Manalo as executive minister do not do what Eliseo Soriano does? Like preaching on television, and so on, does that mean he is coward or hiding?


A VERY BIG NO!
The work of the executive minister is not to preach on television, not to debate to anybody. He is the 'tagapamahalang pangkalahatan', he is the administrator of the whole church, overseeing the church, and so on.

Like the president of the Philippines, his/her work is not for him to attend everyone's needs, go to every province to check each one of us... no, no, no! Instead of it, he/she assigned someone to do tasks that he/she cannot do byhis/herself! that's why we have government officials!
And in the INC, it is the same, it is not the administrator's task to preach on every locale, preach on t.v and so on. do you get my point?
It is not like Soriano, because his church is still a minority, he is the one who preach on t.v and because even he assigned members to do what he does, ofcourse they cannot do it, the question and answer task. hehe!

Members of Soriano's church recognize him as a messenger of god that's why he is the one who preaches, on the other hand, the INC recognize Bro. Felix Manalo as God's messenger in these last days, and the work of preaching is DONE by the last messenger of GOD! He is done on what Soriano still doing!
There is assigned to do public debates! I think this generation, we have Bro. Jose Ventilation and Bro. Ramil Parba. If Eliseo Soriano cannot face our ministers to a debate, how can it be to the ADMINISTRATOR OF THE CHURCH?

CONCLUSION: Eliseo Soriano is the real deceiver, coward, and looser!

Catholic Church's role on the rh bill and Inquisition

What is the role of the "Holy", "Apostolic", Roman, Catholic, "Church" in the Rh bill and the Inquisition?

From the question stated above, i know youre getting my point!^^

To those who were not aware on the reality, the Catholic Church is opposed on passing the bill because they say it will point on being legal of abortion and so on. In the image on this of the Catholic Church, it is like they treat life SO MUCH IMPORTANCE, and so they are so HOLY and in caring "human's life" with low understanding about using contraception and so on.

What am i wondering is that if they really TREAT LIFE as sacred why then in the famous Inquisition happened hundred years ago, they do not give IMPORTANCE TO LIFE?

dont know what i am talking about? Ok, let's start! I will not post about the rh bill because we already knew catholic church's stand about it, i will just post about the Inquisition! My source is the wikipedia:

"The term Inquisition can apply to any one of several institutions which fought against heretics (or other offenders against canon law) within the justice-system of the Roman Catholic Church.

Although similar institutions existed within Calvinist and other Protestant churches, the term "Inquisition" is usually applied to that of the Catholic Church."

Historians distinguish four different manifestations of the Inquisition:

1. the Medieval Inquisition (1231–16th century)
2. the Spanish Inquisition (1478–1834)
3. the Portuguese Inquisition (1536–1821)
4. the Roman Inquisition (1542 – c. 1860 )

MEDIEVAL INQUISITION

"These inquisitions responded to large popular movements throughout Europe considered apostate or heretical to Christianity, in particular the Cathars in southern France and the Waldensians in both southern France and northern Italy".

"Legal basis for some inquisitorial activity came from Pope Innocent IV's papal bull Ad exstirpanda of 1252, which authorized and regulated the use of torture in investigating heresy".


SPANISH INQUISITION

"In contrast to the previous inquisitions, it operated completely under royal authority, though staffed by secular clergy and orders, and independently of the Holy See."

"It targeted primarily converts from Islam Muslims (Moriscos or secret Moors) and converts from Judaism (Conversos and Marranos) — both groups still resided in Spain after the end of the Islamic control of Spain — who came under suspicion of either continuing to adhere to their old religion or of having fallen back into it. Somewhat later the Spanish Inquisition took an interest in Protestants of virtually any sect, notably in the Spanish Netherlands. In the Spanish possessions of the Kingdom of Sicily and the Kingdom of Naples in southern Italy, which formed part of the Spanish Crown's hereditary possessions, it also targeted Greek Orthodox Christians."


PORTUGUESE INQUISITION

"The Portuguese Inquisition principally targeted the Sephardic Jews, whom the state forced to convert to Christianity. Spain had expelled its Sephardic population in 1492 ; after 1492 many of these Spanish Jews left Spain for Portugal but eventually became targeted there as well."

"It concentrated its efforts on rooting out converts from other faiths (overwhelmingly Judaism) who did not adhere to the observances of Catholic orthodoxy; the Portuguese inquisitors mostly targeted the Jewish "New Christians", conversos, or marranos."

" In addition, the Inquisition prosecuted non-converts who broke prohibitions against the observance of Hindu or Muslim rites or interfered with Portuguese attempts to convert non-Christians to Catholicism."

"According to Henry Charles Lea, between 1540 and 1794 tribunals in Lisbon, Porto, Coimbra and Évora resulted in the burning of 1,175 persons, the burning of another 633 in effigy, and the penancing of 29,590. But documentation of fifteen out of 689"


ROMAN INQUISITION

"In 1542 Pope Paul III established the Congregation of the Holy Office of the Inquisition as a permanent congregation staffed with cardinals and other officials. It had the tasks of maintaining and defending the integrity of the faith and of examining and proscribing errors and false doctrines;"

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Meaning to say, the Catholic Church is not only responsible of the people who they have killed by burning at stake, tortured and so on, but responsible on the FORCED CONVERSION OF OTHER FAITH TO CATHOLICISM!

Is that the true Church of Christ?

Did Christ in his time FORCED people to join his church?

Did Christ and the apostles tortured or burned in the stake those who guilty of heresy?

Is that a work of CHRIST'S PEOPLE/CHURCH?

But wait, it is not the end, let us proceed:


GETTING FACTS STRAIGHT:

How many died in those Inquisition? and also how many are tortured?^^
According to catholicbridge.com:

According to public news reports the book's editor, Prof. Agostino Borromeo, stated that about 125,000 persons were investigated by the Spanish Inquisition, of which 1.8% were executed (2,250 people). Most of these deaths occurred in the first decade and a half of the Inquisition's 350 year history. In Portugal of the 13,000 tried in the 16th and early 17th century 5.7% were said to have been condemned to death. News articles did not report if Portugal's higher percentage included those sentenced to death in effigy (i.e. an image burnt instead of the actual person). For example, historian Gustav Henningsen reported that statistical tabulations of 50,000 recorded cases tried by nineteen Spanish tribunals between 1540-1700 found 775 people (1.7%) were actually executed while another 700 (1.4%) were sentenced to death in effigy ("El 'banco de datos' del Santo Oficio: Las relaciones de causas de la Inquisición española, 1550-1700", BRAH, 174, 1977). Jewish historian Steven Katz remarked on the Medieval Inquisition that "in its entirety, the thirteenth and fourteenth century Inquisition put very few people to death and sent few people to prison; 90 percent of its sentences were canonical penances" (The Holocaust in Historical Context, 1994).
During the high point of the Spanish Inquisition from 1478-1530 AD, scholars found that approximately 1,500-2,000 people were found guilty. From that point forward, there are exact records available of all "guilty" sentences which amounted to 775 executions. In the full 200 years of the Spanish Inquisition, less than 1% of the population had any contact with it, people outside of the major cities didn't even know about it. The Inquisition was not applied to Jews or Moslems, unless they were baptised as Christians.
If we add the figures, we find that the entire Inquisition of 500 years, caused about 6,000 deaths. These atrocities are completely inexcusable.

OFCOURSE, IT IS INEXCUSABLE! EVEN IF IT IS ONLY 10 OR 5 DIED, STILL THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING PEOPLE WHO DID NOT FOLLOWED AND OBEYED CHURCH DOCTRINES AND TEACHINGS!

Let us say this calculation is true that only 6,000 died, well, meaning to say half a million were tortured! i know all the people who are under investigation on those times were TORTURED!

and i know that its a very LOW estimation, why? The Catholic Church make it to low estimation so that they are free in the responsible of millions and millions of people died, in the estimation made by some scholars!

Am i lying about the Inquisition? well, let us see, from world news:

The Inquisition
The attempt to combat suspected apostates, Jews and Muslims at the time of the Reformation spawned tribunals in Europe and the new world that tortured and executed thousands. Ecclesiastical queasiness about flowing blood led to the use of racks, thumbscrews and red-hot metal instead of blades; 2,000 people were burned at the stake during the tenure of Spain's first grand inquisitor, Tomas de Torquemada. from the article Pope says sorry for sins of church

Ask yourself, Is the Catholic Church really
CARES FOR THE HUMAN LIFE OR NOT?

Search Inquisition in your favorite search engines so you may know what am i talking about!

Roman Catholic Church is indeed united!

Before i make an article about the rh bill and the inquisition, ive accidentally search about this thing, and im not the only one who have such idea about the connection of the Catholic Church to the rh bill and the famous Inquisition. Then, after reading that article, it is really indeed that the Catholic Church is UNITED!^^

Here is the article:

Priest likens church pressure vs. Rh bill to the Inquisition

Amid the Catholic bishops' strong opposition to the Reproductive Health (RH) bill, one of the clergy's leading intellectuals has a different view on the controversial measure, saying that attempts of some members of the Church to dissuade the public from supporting the bill is "reminiscent of the Inquisition."

In a recent blog entry, Jesuit priest Fr. Joaquin Bernas, S.J., said a sector of the Church is giving Catholic religion a bad name by trying to impose Catholic beliefs on everyone. He wrote about the "furor" over the Barangay Ayala Alabang ordinance that, among others, requires a doctor's prescription when buying artificial contraception like condoms.

Bernas, Dean Emeritus of the Ateneo Law School, a law degree holder and a prominent constitutionalist, noted the technicalities of the Ayala Alabang ordinance. He says, for example, that Republic Act 5921 or an Act Regulating the Practice of Pharmacy, on which the ordinance is based, regulates only the actions of pharmacists and not the activity of buyers of pharmaceutical goods.

However, he pointed out that these are "technical matters that can easily be verified." He said it is "more eerily fundamental" that the situation seems to be an attempt by a sector of the Catholic Church to instrumentalize the power of the state to impose Catholic belief on all others.

"[W]hen it comes to contraception, the nation divides mainly along religious lines," he said. "The official Catholic teaching is that artificial contraception is immoral. Other religions believe in good faith otherwise."

"Seeking to impose Catholic belief and practices on non-Catholics and others violates freedom of religion," he said.

In another blog entry, Bernas said he is not going against the teaching of the Church, citing a provision in the Vatican II declaration entitled "Dignitatis Humanae" (Latin for "Of the dignity of the human person") that supports a person's right to religious freedom.

The provision says a person has a right to religious freedom, which means all men "are to be immune from coercion on the part of individuals or of social groups and of any human power, in such wise that no one is to be forced to act in a manner contrary to his own beliefs, whether privately or publicly, whether alone or in association with others, within due limits."

In July 2010, Bernas co-authored talking points for Dialogue on the RH Bill with Fr. Eric Genilo, S.J. and Fr. John Carroll, S.J. In it he expressed that a "critical and constructive engagement" is necessary between the bill proponents and the Church so that the debate is not focused only on whether the RH bill should be passed or rejected.

The paper argued that even if the majority of the population of the country are Catholics, the democratic system should ensure that "public policies are not determined solely by majority vote but also by a careful consideration of the common good of all, including non-Catholics."

The paper also pointed out that it is the duty of various religions to "teach their faithful and form their consciences about what their religious tradition allows and prohibits with regard to family planning," while the government should provide information and training for both natural and artificial methods of family planning.

"Consciences will thus be better equipped to make informed choices according to their religious traditions," it said.

Bernas et al. wrote that everyone needs to come to a consensus for the common good, adding that the freedom of conscience of every Filipino – whether Catholic or non-Catholic – must be respected.

'Eclectic Catholics'

Speaking from the other side of the RH bill divide, however, Archbishop Emeritus Oscar Cruz said freedom of choice is not absolute, and people are only free to do what is right and not what is wrong.

In an interview with GMA News Online, Cruz said he does not agree with Bernas when the latter said imposing Catholic beliefs on everyone is a violation of freedom of religion.

"In fact, this is not a teaching based on Catholic faith but based on natural law and based on reason," he said. "The arguments being propounded by the CBCP (Catholics Bishops' Conference of the Philippines) against the RH bill are because of the teachings of nature and reason, not because of Catholicism."

He cited for example the Ten Commandments, where it states that one should not kill, steal or covet one's wife. "Huwag mong sabihin na sa Katoliko lang 'yun. It is carried by the Catholic Church but it applies to everyone," he said. (Don't tell me that it only applies to Catholics. It is carried by the Catholic Church but it applies to everyone.)

Cruz said he fears that priests like Bernas who rally behind RH bill advocates will promote the emergence of more "eclectic Catholics" who only follow teachings of the Church that they want to follow and are "convenient" for them.

"We have a good number of people who are eclectic Catholics, which is a pity because [they] are neither here nor there," he said, adding that some priests are also becoming that way.

Cruz likened members of religious orders who believe in the RH bill to the apostle Judas who betrayed Jesus.

"Sa labindalawang apostol, may isang Hudas. Sa dami-dami naming mga pari eh meron ding nagtataksil," he said. (Among the twelve apostles, there is one Judas. Out of many priests, there are also a few who betray.)

Cruz did not say which religious order he is referring to.

"I can't imagine why they would support the RH bill," he added. "Kung nagpari ka pa, mamimili ka ng gusto mong doktrina pero 'di mo susundin ang mga itinuturo niyo, cheap na cheap naman 'yon." (If you entered priesthood and picked this doctrine but do not follow its teachings, that's really too cheap.)—JV, GMA News

source: Gmanews.tv

And now, you can say WWWOOOOOOOWWWW!!!!!!

No one can beat the Catholic Church in having
united DOCTRINES, and members with UNITED FAITH!^^

A very funny and famous dialogue of the catholic defenders and authorities if there are members and so on who is contrary to the church, they also say this dialogue to priests who converted to the INC, a very INTELLIGENT DEFENSE:

"Sa labindalawang apostol, may isang Hudas. Sa dami-dami naming mga pari eh meron ding nagtataksil," he said. (Among the twelve apostles, there is one Judas. Out of many priests, there are also a few who betray.)

hahaha^^


CONCLUSION: It is also indeed that catholic defenders/priests are well TRAINED in defending the church!

I will give standing ovation and a big around of applause to those catholic authorities who doesnt let their BELIEFS influence their true opinion and so the reality.

Simply, THEY WERE DIVIDED BECAUSE OF THE CHURCH'S
"OWN CONSCIENCE TEACHING". yeah!

INC in RH bill

Iglesia ni Cristo backs RH bill

THE influential Iglesia ni Cristo said it is willing to support bills on reproductive health “as long as there would be no immoral elements in them.”
In a letter to Representative Rogelio J. Espina, chairman of the population and family relations committee in the House of Representatives, Eduardo Manalo, INC executive minister, said the organization supports “modern methods of contraception” as long as they do not encourage abortion that, with the use of “abortifacients involve the taking of life, which God explicitly forbids.”
He said INC does “not support the natural family planning method and all its variants. These so called birth control methods depend upon abstinence on the part of the married couple. These methods are not only unnatural and ineffective but they are also immoral, since they contradict the commandment that God has given to married couples,” Manalo said. “Parents today have a moral obligation to plan the number of their children and keep it under control.”
“We believe that it is a moral imperative for parents to watch over all their children and provide them with food, shelter and clothing as well as proper education and religious and moral training,” he said.
The INC has been known for its strong political influence, especially during elections when the organization reportedly votes as a bloc. It is also known to maintain a close “friendship” with incumbent administrations while not losing “discreet connection” with the opposition.
“We are all well aware of the dire situation of our country caused by overpopulation,” said Manalo, adding that many of society’s worsening ills “can be traced to families growing so large.”
source: cathnewsphil.com

Here is what written in the letter:

12 October 2010

HON. ROGELIO J. ESPINA, M.D.
Chairman
Committee on Population and Family Relations
House of Representatives
Republic of the Philippines

Dear Congressman Espina,

We would like to thank the Committee on Population and Family Relations for requesting our position concerning the Bills of Reproductive Health. We are all well aware of the dire situation of our country caused by overpopulation. Many of society’s worsening ills—from homeless families starving in miserable conditions and children not in school but instead begging day and night in nearly every major street to the rapidly spreading problems with drug abuse and rising crime rates—can be traced to families growing so large that an increasing number of parents cannot provide the most basic human needs to their families.

We consider it commendable that our lawmakers care enough for our fellow Filipinos that they are doing what they can do to alleviate the hardships so many of our countrymen are facing. IN what they propose, they can bring about not only an economic good for our countrymen but also a moral one. We are ready to support the Bills on Reproductive Health as long as there would be no immoral elements in them.

What are the moral aspects of the proposed bills that we support? We believe that it is moral imperative for parents to watch over all their children and provide them with food, shelter, and clothing, as well as proper education and religious and moral training. Hence, parents todayhave (sic) a moral obligation to plan the number of their children and keep it under control. The Bible states that a parent who does not provide for the needs of his own household is worse than an unbeliever (I Tim. 5:8). Since modern methods of contraception—by preventing married couples from having any unplanned pregnancies—assist in supporting this Christian principle, we support their use as long as these methods are empirically not abortifacient. Abortion and the use of abortifacients involve the taking of life, which God explicitly forbids (Exod. 20:13).

We do not support the natural family planning method and all its variants. These so-called birth control methods depend upon abstinence on the part of the married couple when the woman is fertile but allows marital relations only when she is not. These methods are not only unnatural and ineffective but they also are immoral, since they contradict the commandment that God has given to married couples. The Bible instructs married couples not to deprive one another of intimate marital relations for long, extended periods of time; further, any abstinence at all for a married couple is supposed to be with the mutual consent of husband and wife and not for the purpose of preventing pregnancies (I Cor. 7:3-5).

We appreciate the Committee’s gesture of soliciting our stand on this timely yet controversial issue.

Very truly yours,

EDUARDO V. MANALO
Executive Minister
___________________________________________________

There is a bible verse that the Catholic Church believe, it is written in the book of GENESIS where people is still few, they say that God said: "go fourth and multiply", but when the earth is filled with people, that became a problem to most countries called OVERPOPULATION, do still we need to follow what was written in the bible made thousand years ago, about this thing?

When there is OVERPOPULATION, do we need to multiply and multiply to the point of some are dying because of hunger and so on?

Do you get the point?

the catholic church wanted to point out that God doesnt know what the words empty and full mean.


And so,

If there is one to BLAME WHY THE PHILIPPINES IS STILL ON POVERTY, we know whom to blame!

its not just about corruption, its about the INFLUENCE and the commanding of this powerful church to the government every now and then!

REMEMBER: Our resources is LIMITED!

this message is for those CATHOLIC DEFENDERS who have a low understanding about life, being blinded and influenced about their true opinion and what was happening in reality because of their faith!

I just admire those catholic authorities,and even priests that support the RH bill, YES! there are! and im not inventing a story because just this month, ive watch a documentary on channel 11, GMA NEWS TV, on reel time, about this.


Atleast, THEY ARE OPEN MINDED ON WHAT WAS REALLY HAPPENING ON REALITY!

AGAIN, ITS NOT JUST THE CORRUPTION IS THE PROBLEM HERE IN OUR COUNTRY THAT MAKES US STILL ON POVERTY!

Catholics and Protestants: Let us learn from the INC!

...Kakaiba kasi ang disiplinang pinakikita nila lalo na sa kanilang
pagsasamba na isang malaking halimbawa ng pag-rerespeto nila sa DIYOS.
Nakailang sama na tayo sa paanyaya ng ilan nating kaibigang mga INC sa
kanilang pagsasamba at hindi natin maiwasan ikumpara unang una ang
kalinisan sa loob ng kanilang kapilya. Ilang local na ho ang napasyalan
natin at pare-pareho ho ito.

Hindi ho kagaya ng ugali nating mga Katoliko na kanyang kanyang
puwesto na kadalasan tuloy ay naiiwang bakante ang maraming silya sa
gitna, sa mga kapatid ho natin sa INC ay pupunuin ang bawat silya mula
sa harap hanggang makarating sa likod.

Wala rin hong social status ang sistema ng kanilang pag-okupa at first
come first serve lahat. Kahit sino ka man, kahit sikat ka, walang
reservation at kung mahuhuli ka ay sa likod ka uupo.

Bawal rin sa kanila ang mga damit na masyadong maiksi na suot minsan
ng ilan nating mga kapatid na Katolikong kababaihan na siya namang
aaminin nating nakakadistract ng attention. Hiwalay rin ho ang puwesto
ng mga babae at lalaki at walang batang nagtatakbo sa loob na mistulang
ginagawang playground.

Ang mga song book nila ay nakalagay sa kaliwang bahagi ng mahabang
bangko at isa isang kinukuha at pagkatapos ng kanilang pagsasamba ay isa
isa rin nilang binabalik. Kung ginagalang ho kasi natin ang PANGINOON
bakit natin kinakalat na lamang ang mga misalette o anumang papel sa
simbahan na napakarumi tingnan.

Wala rin hong nag-bubulungan sa kanila habang sumasamba at lalong
walang kalabitan na madalas ring gawin ng ilan nating mga kasamahan sa
simbahang Katoliko.

Ultimo sa katapusan ng kanilang pagsasamba, row by row silang
lumalabas at hindi nagkakagulo at naguunahan. Muli lang natin naalala
ito lalo na nung panahon ng holidays kung saan dumalaw naman tayo sa
ilang simbahan upang magpasalamat sa PANGINOON sa lahat ng biyayang
nakukuha natin. Lahat ho tayo ay dapat mag-count ng blessings natin na
bigay sa atin ng DIYOS.

Tunay na kahanga hanga at karapat dapat tularan hindi lamang sa paraan
ng pagsasamba o pagsisimba kung hindi sa lahat ng antas ng lipunan dahil
isa sa pinakamalaking suliraning kinakaharap natin ngayon ay ang
kakulangan sa disiplina at palakasan system na laganap.

At komo unang column natin ito ngayong taong 2007, sana kahit sa
maliit na paraan ay maantig natin ang ating mga kababayan at ma-adopt
natin ang disiplinang pinaiiral ng mga INC upang kahit paano naman ay
maibsan ang problema ng bayan...

"PANAGINIP LANG Ni Nixon T. Kua, Ang Pilipino STAR Ngayon 01/02/2007"

… ang oligarkiyang Pilipino (isang uri ng pamahalaan na ang kapangyarihan ay nasa kamay ng ilan) ay walang pag asa at hindi karapat dapat na panatilihin. Dapat itong paalisin, kahit sa pamamagitan ng lakas kung kinakailangan, upang ang bansang ito ay sumulong. Ang Iglesia Katolika ay bahagi ng oligarkiyang ito at bilang isang institusyon, ito ay bigo. Ang masisiglang Cristiano na nagpapahalaga kay Kristo ay isang napakaliit na minorya. Ang Iglesia (Katolika) ay nagdaranas ng kawalan ng tiyak na patutunguhan at binigo ang mahihirap at malaking masa ng mga mamamayan. Ang mga pantanging paaralang Katoliko sa Maynila ay walang kakayahang itanim sa mga anak ng mayamang oligarkiya ang katarungang panlipunan, nasyonalismo, at ang magandang hinaharap ng isang bansang Pilipino…

Ang pinakamatibay na katuwiran na ang Iglesia (Katolika) ay nabigo, ay ang Iglesia ni Cristo, na nakapagbigay sa pangkaraniwang tao ng diwa ng katarungang panlipunan at kaayusang ukol sa moralidad na hindi naibigay ng isang impersonal at mayamang Iglesia Katolika sa mga paraan ng pag unlad ng INC, na nagtuturo ng kamalayang panlupunan at nasyonalismo, na ang mga kaanib ay nagmumula sa mga mababang kalagayan, na tumatangging maging isang ginagalang na Iglesia ng mga nasa mataas na kalagayan. (“The most telling argument that the (Catholic) Church is a failure is the Iglesia ni Cristo which has given the common man that sense of social justice and moral order which an impersonal, rich Church (Catholic) has not been able to give. The Catholic Church should learn from the dynamics of the INC (IGlesia ni Cristo).”)

Pasugo March-April 1982
"Philippine National Problems and Development, Vitaliano R. Gorospe p. 25"

“The INC does have discipline and its leaders do keep themselves very low-key, something that we wish our own Catholic bishops would learn to do…”
Paredes, Ducky Malaya, Feb. 19, 2003



“In practice, both Catholics and Protestants neglect poor of our land. The group that has significantly moved into this vacuum is the Iglesia ni Cristo…

By passing the enigma of how many members they really have, we must acknowledge that the Iglesia ni Cristo provides much that the common tao needs; a sense of belonging, of community, of being part or a successful enterprise”
A.Leonard Tuggy & Ralph Toliver, Seeing the church in the Philippines, 1972, p.140



“How is it that the INC has so many palatial-churches and we see them all over the country, while ours… well, sometimes we cant even tell UCCP churches from dilapidated, wooden residential houses.”

"worse, when we try to find models for church growth, models for church management, models for church planning, we could hardly look at our own, but turn our eyes elsewhere--to the INC."

"Perhaps, there is something about the INC, ... that we are missing. could it be that their leaders and more important, their members believe--and more than just believing, live out their faith?"
(The Isaiah Paradigm: Recapturing the role of Laity, p.116)



"I have long noticed that the churches of the iglesia ni cristo are of uniform design."

"I had initially thought that the purpose was to save money in architectural drawings and designs. wrong"

"after i talked idly with a ranking member of this most unified christian community, i got to know that there is one single purpose of having uniform churches."

"and it is not to save money."

"Uniform designs makes members of the INC feel that they are united behind their beliefs."

"Then i got to thinking that the catholic churches are all of shapes and sizes."
"They are even called various names."

"The bigger ones are called basilicas, some are called sanctuaries which are always for the rich, still others are called the generic churches and chapels."

"We hardly ever notice it, but these are signs of the catholic church's own discriminations. No wonder we are deeply divided nation even in our own religion."

"In the other hand, the members or followers of the iglesia ni cristo are welded to their leader."

"why? to begin with, maybe because they have no cardinal sin who splits them apart with politics.The INC, on the other hand, vote as one in politics."

"Maybe, Ka Erdie Manalo should help President Arroyo and Cardinal Sin learn a lesson or two about reconcillation and unity. He has shown how it can be done."
Amado P. Macaset Publisher & editorial board chairman from the news paper Malaya (Philippines), dec. 16, 2003 p.9