"Ipaglaban mo nang puspusan ang pananampalataya. Panghawakan mong mabuti ang buhay na walang hanggan, dahil diyan ka tinawag ng Diyos nang ipahayag mo sa harap ng maraming saksi ang iyong pananalig kay Cristo." I Tim. 6:12
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July 23, 2012

House of prayer turned market

ADD Convention Center




Roman Catholic Cathedral in the Philippines






"When it was almost time for the Jewish Passover, Jesus went up to Jerusalem. In the temple courts he found people selling cattle, sheep and doves, and others sitting at tables exchanging money. So he made a whip out of cords, and drove all from the temple courts, both sheep and cattle; he scattered the coins of the money changers and overturned their tables. To those who sold doves he said, “Get these out of here! Stop turning my Father’s house into a market!” John 2:13-16


Jesus went into the Temple area. He threw out all those who were selling and buying things there. He turned over the tables that belonged to those who were exchanging different kinds of money. And he turned over the benches of those who were selling doves. Jesus said to them, “The Scriptures say, ‘My Temple will be called a house of prayer.’ But you are changing it into a ‘hiding place for thieves.’” Matthew 21:12-13

July 1, 2012

Myembro daw ng INC ang nagsisimula ng gulo?

Laganap na naman sa internet ang edited na video galing sa ADD upang pasamain ang INC na ito daw ang nagsimula ng gulo, nambugbog at inaakusahan pang mga bayolente ang mga myembro nito.

Ang sinasabi ko ay ang nangyaring kaguluhan sa pagitan ng INC at ADD ni Mr. Soriano noong April 23, 2005 sa isang outlet ng Jollibee. Eto ang bias na video sa youtube upang pasamain ang imahe ng INC at sabihing mga bayolente o tinuturuan maging bayolente ng mga ministro ang mga myembro nito:




At eto naman ang katotohanan kung sino nga ba talaga ang may PASIMUNO ng nangyaring maliit na kaguluhan na dapat sana ay matiwasay at mapayapang debate:




Sect hit for 'not cooperating' in probe of brawl
Philippine Sun Star, Saturday, April 23, 2005

APALIT -- "Wala silang tiwala sa local police. Wala silang tiwala sa local government. Kanino sila may tiwala (They do not trust the police. They do not trust the local government. Who will they trust)?"

Tirso G. Lacanilao said this of the alleged refusal of the Ang Dating Daan (ADD) religious group to cooperate with the local authorities in the investigation of a free-for-all scuffle between members of the ADD and the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) at a local fastfood chain here last April 18.

A number of persons were hurt in the melee.

Lacanilao said he immediately ordered Chief Inspector Marcelo Dayag, Apalit chief of police, to send his men at the fastfood chain after he received a call that ADD and INC members were engaged in a debate.

Inspector Ruben Chua, deputy chief, who headed the responding team said he pleaded with the opposing groups to disperse peacefully to "prevent the heated arguments from getting out of hand."

Lacanilao quoted the police as saying a certain "Mataro" then started cursing which led to the free-for-all between the ADD and INC and joined in by bystanders.

"Police presence and immediate action prevented what could have resulted to an even uglier incident," Lacanilao said.

Moulic said he offered the police vehicle to take the injured to the hospital but the ADD members refused.

"Nagbalikan na lang po sila sa kanilang (They just returned to their) convention center," he said.

On orders of Lacanilao, Chua with Moulic and PO1 Maribel Red went to the ADD Convention Center to get the statement of the members involved in the brawl, including those injured.

"Hindi po kami pinapasok sa compound (We were not allowed to enter the compound)," Moulic said.

Policemen, also ordered by the mayor to go to the INC church, were able to get the statement of those involved and presented themselves to the police station to affirm their statements.

Sun.Star Pampanga wasn't able to get the side of the ADD as reporters are refused entry at the ADD compound by a guard who declined to identify himself.
source: sunstar.com.ph

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Religious confrontation gets physical in Apalit
By Rendy Isip

SAN FERNANDO, Pampanga — Followers of warring religious sects Ang Dating Daan and Iglesia ni Cristo were injured after a clash inside a Jollibee outlet in Apalit town last April 18 during a scheduled religious debate.

Apalit Mayor Tirso Lacanilao said yesterday that police have yet to determine the cause of the melee between the two factions.

Lacanilao said that “scores were injured” during the brief clash between the two religious sects who have been at odds for the past few years. He reported that no one was killed in the incident.

He reported that there were no serious injuries and followers of both sects only suffered minor bruises.

Ang Dating Daan and Iglesia Ni Cristo have been trading accusations in their respective television programs. This has even led to an exchange of lawsuits.

Reports said that an ADD follower identified only as “Mataro” provoked INC followers, which resulted in the brawl.

source: network54.com

Yun naman pala, hindi naman pala talaga ang INC members ang nauna, kundi yung ADD member na si Mr. Mataro, kaso bias lang talaga yung pinaka unang video, mapapaniwala ka na SILA LANG ANG NASAKTAN AT NABUGBOG. Meron ba namang "rambol" na yung isang grupo lang ang masasaktan at yung kalabang grupo eh hindi, pwede ba naman yun? Sana kinuhaan din nila yung mga INC members na nabugbog at nasaktan dahil sa panguguna ng bastos na bunganga ng ADD member na si Mr. Mataro.

Parehas pala ang taktika ng CFD ng Catholic Church at ADD members ni Mr. Soriano, sila ang madalas na may dala ng kamera, tapos ieedit nila para sa kanila pumabor at kumampi yung mga manonood! WOW, TACTIC!

Sabi nga ni Mr. Thompson na 7th day adventist sa isang debate laban sa INC noong Aug. 2006:

"Kaya alam nyo sa totoo lang, ewan ko nga ba kung bakit ang ibang samahan ng pananampalataya eh takot na takot makipagdebate sa mga kapatid nating Iglesia ni Cristo, eh sa totoo lang yung sinasabi nilang nanggugulo, pangatlong beses na ito kahit kurot wala tayong inaabot eh.

Uulitin ko yung sinabi ko noong 2001, Mr. Soriano kung nasaan kaman, baka pwede mong pagbigyan ng isang maginoong usapan ang ating mga kaibigan at mga kapatid na Iglesia ni Cristo. 2001 ko pang nirerequest yan eh hanggang ngayon wala pa ring nangyayari"...

June 1, 2012

Eliseo Soriano challenged Bro. Erano Manalo on a debate!



I really admire Mr. Soriano for his braveness on challenging the late Executive Minister Bro. Erano Manalo on a one on one debate. I admire how intelligent he is, imagining that he knows that his challenge will not be given attention by Bro. Erano Manalo. The result is, the public and nonmembers thought that Bro. Erano Manalo was a coward, and cannot face Mr. Soriano on a debate, making his hidden intention a success!


Is this TRUE, that Bro. Erano was a coward?


I think even i say no, they will still say YES.
But i should tell the truth, the FACT is NO.

But before ill explain this, i will show you first the true happenings before Eliseo Soriano challenged the late Bro. Erano Manalo...

"On March 3, 2004 a scheduled Pre-debate Conference was supposed to happen in residence on a subdivision in Paranque City, three (3) ADD workers confirmed to the said agreement, Marcos Mataro, Melvin Arbo and Jun Damimo but on the date of agreement there were no ADD workers found on site, the INC ministers waited until 6:00PM.

source:
eltoes.tripod.com

What happened in the pre-debate conference in Paranaque?






On April 26, 2004 another scheduled Pre-debate Conference was supposed to be held in Capaz, Tarlac, at 3:00PM but there are no ADD worker present despite of the agreement 4 days before that they’ll meet. The meeting was signed my Manny Antonio an ADD worker and Abraham Cruz of the INC. INC Ministers Michael Sandoval even tries to contact the ADD and told them that they will go where they are so that the pre-debate would push through; the ADD Minister Mel Magdaraog however cannot answer the request. The Mayor of the town who supposed to be the arbiter postpones his election campaign for the day just to be there but no ADD member was there, he just told the ADD that he’ll not grant any other request from the group if their attitude is that rude."

source:
eltoes.tripod.com


What happened in the pre-debate conference in Capaz, Tarlac?





And because of this events, ADD members now INC members became upset that makes ADD workers/ministers of Mr. Soriano, the REAL COWARD. A former ADD church worker's observation:




Then in March 27, 2005 Eliseo Soriano challenged the INC again but in this time, he wanted Bro. Erano Manalo, a "puno sa puno" one on one debate. His challenge is published in a national newspaper, but the funny thing here is that he wanted the debate to happen in television studios that will be covered live worlwide via satellite as what he said, instead of challenging Bro. Erano on a formal public debate. WOW.

He also said in the newspaper that he is waiting for the INC's reply for the discussion of mechanics. The INC's reply was published in March 28, 2005 saying "for the Iglesia ni Cristo's response watch Ang Tamang Daan". In the same day the response was broadcasted in INC's program saying "Ang sagot sayo ganito, makipagdebate ka muna sa papa ng Iglesia Katolika, at maglalatin ka nga sinasabi ko sayo, saka tatanggapin ang hamon ng tagapamahalang pangkalahatan ng Iglesia ni Cristo."

Why do you think Bro. Erano Manalo's reply is in that way? Does that mean he is feared on debating Soriano one on one?

Answer: NO.

Why?

Let us first understand the tasks of the Executive Minister, thanks for the info ive got from the internet. Question: Is one of the tasks of an Executive Minister is to be a debater?


Executive Minister vs. Presiding Minister



Executive Minister

The position of an executive minister requires a balance of both strong leadership skills and an aptitude for management and administration. Executive ministers generally work alongside senior pastors to help provide leadership and outreach to the church staff, the church body and the community at large. Because of the psychological and spiritual demands of the job, executive pastors must maintain a strong commitment to personal growth and emotional health.
Duties
Executive ministers must be willing to fulfill a wide variety of duties, many of which go unnoticed because they occur behind the scenes. The first priority of any executive minister should be to establish positive, trusting relationships among the church staff and between the staff and the congregation. This includes meeting with and caring for staff and other church members, arranging staff meetings, casting visions and goals for the organization, providing supervision, working with committees and planning staff events. The executive pastor also serves as a personal adviser to the senior pastor, sharing opinions, feedback and advice when appropriate. Because of this, the executive minister must clearly understand and fully support the church’s goals and mission statement.

Skills
An executive minister must possess a wide range of skills to adequately fulfill the ongoing demands of the position. These include effective communication, positive supervisory skills, ability to plan and coordinate activities, flexibility, a commitment to personal and professional growth and the desire for further education (often a requirement). Executive pastors may also be required to visit church members or conduct weddings or funerals, so excellent interpersonal and public speaking skills are a must.

Work Setting
The majority of an executive minister’s work is likely to occur in a church office. This may include working alone, possibly at a phone or computer, or working in groups with other church staff. Work may also take place in other people’s homes, or at community events or volunteer projects. The senior pastor usually provides direct supervision.

Education and Experience
Most churches and other organizations require that an executive minister have a degree in management or biblical studies, or both. In certain cases, proficient experience may substitute for one of these education requirements. Most executive ministers will be expected to further their education through reading, attending seminars or pursuing a degree. However, these expectations will vary from one organization to the next.

source:
ehow.com

It is not the job of the Executive Minister to be a debater, that's why INC ministers are the one's who wanted to represent the INC on a debate (not just ministers, but selected ministers because they needed authorization from the Church administration), the INC's official public debaters were Bro. Jose Ventilation and Bro. Ramil Parba. Accepting the challenge of Eliseo Soriano on his "puno sa puno" version of the debate is but a question of authority. I think that is the reason why Bro. Erano said that Eliseo Soriano should first challenge the Pope on a debate, and IF the Pope agreed, it is when Bro. Erano will also agree on Soriano's challenge.

Come to think, the Pope is not a debater of the Catholic Church, their official debaters were apologists and not Popes. It is also same with other religious organizations, their debaters is not the present executive minister, presiding minister, highest leader, president and so on, the one who does that is their official debaters.

If you go to MCGI's website, it is said that their Presiding Minister "supervises the entire activity of the Church and implements all policies and projects aimed for the improvement of the Congregation’s spiritual well-being. He ensures the proper and rightful execution of the duties and responsibilities of the Ministers and officials of Church ministries and organizations.

He also teaches the Ministers and Workers all the doctrines of Christ in the Bible to be taught to the members."

In the case of Soriano, he is not just a Presiding Minister, he is also a debater, preacher, blogger, celebrity, treasurer(mahilig manghingi ng abuloy), softdrinks dealer, owner of different businesses like sizzling house, water station and etc.



Does the late Bro. Erano Manalo hiding like a coward?


Bro. Erano Manalo only do what his job states and requires, the job of an Executive Minister is described above as:"many of which go unnoticed because they occur behind the scenes." So, when Soriano brainwashed and corrupted the minds of his followers saying that Bro. Erano WAS HIDING only because he did not do what Soriano is doing, like preaching on t.v and in public, well that's a DECEPTION and a lie, as Executive Ministers' works "occur behind the scenes"!

Bro. Erano Manalo is not a coward in debates, in fact, when he is not yet an Executive Minister, he is a public speaker and a debater:
"Bro. Felix Manalo had trained Bro. Erano as a public speaker and debater, once introducing him before a bible exposition saying, “Ang susunod na magsasalita ay mas mahusay pa sa akin (The one who will speak after me is more skilled than I am.)”. Pasugo Issue Sep. 2009

IF ONLY, yes, IF ONLY Bro. Felix Manalo is still living, Soriano's church is now vanished because of Soriano's defeat in a debate. It is unfair if it will be a Sugo of ADD vs. 2nd executive minister of the INC, it should be Sugo of ADD vs. True Sugo of God which is the 1st Executive Minister of the INC. We all know that the preaching of Bro. Felix in the past is more of bible expositions/rallies and debates with different pastors in different religions, as what Soriano IS STILL DOING. If Soriano have lived in the time of Bro. Felix, Soriano is truly be ashamed.


Going back to the topic...

"On March 29, 2005 in Tanauan, Batangas a Pre-debate conference is already in progress when Rodel Mangiliman an ADD MIC came to stop the pre-debate conference, initially he accepts the challenge but as the rules are about to be discussed they keep on trying to change the theme and doesn’t want to accept any rules that was set. The arbiter then quits saying that if the ADD will not agree to anything then there will not be any debate. In this incident it is noticeable also that when the INC Minister tries to greet the ADD workers thru shake hands they refuse then just leave."

source: eltoes.tripod.com

After challenging Bro. Erano Manalo in a debate in March 27, 2005 , but as it is impossible to happen, Bro. Ramil challenge Soriano that he is the one to represent the INC and not the Executive Minister, the conditions:




In the next video, another INC minister, Bro. Ventilation challenge Soriano in a formal debate but he refused, instead he insist that he wanted the Executive Minister to be in the debate. Another INC minister in the video, Bro. Jojo Geron attended an ADD gathering where he challenge Soriano on a debate, Soriano said "Aminin mo munang makikipagdiskusyon ka sasagutin kita", But the poor Soriano feared the debate between him and the Iglesia ni Cristo, he then said "tignan mo, may sinabi ba kong makikipagdiskusyon ang Iglesia? Wala nun!"




hahaha, who is the true COWARD? As ive said earlier, i really admire the intelligence of Soriano using the advantage of challenging Bro. Erano Manalo on a one on one "PUNO SA PUNO" debate (not public debate) instead of challenging the official INC debaters, as he KNOWS that Bro. Erano will not accept it immediately. It will be a shameful event in the side of the INC if Bro. Erano had accepted the challenge, because no religious leaders around the world would give attention to Soriano's craziness.

His "PUNO SA PUNO debate" is really an invention of Soriano, we should not be surprised, because Soriano have not CHALLENGED ANY RELIGIOUS LEADERS until now except the Executive Minister of the INC, what do you think is the reason???






Who's the real COWARD? The Executive Minister of the INC who many not be always in the eyes of the public, but is working "behind the scenes" or the Presiding Minister of MCGI who's location cannot be track abroad because of not FACING his criminal charges in the Philippines?

April 23, 2011

Iglesia ni Cristo debate ADD



Eliseo Soriano, founder of the Members church of god international is always wanting of a debate one on one in the time of Bro. Erano Manalo, but doesnt challenge other leader of some churches!

Every member of Soriano's church always say that Iglesia ni Cristo ministers especially Bro. Erano Manalo are all coward on debating to Eliseo Soriano, is it true?

Is it also true that Bro. Erano Manalo, when he was living is afraid on debating to Eliseo Soriano?

Is it true that ministers and Bro. Manalo are hiding and dont want to debate Eliseo Soriano?

Well, the question is, who is the REAL COWARD, THAT DOESNT WANT TO DEBATE?



THE CHALLENGE AND CONDITIONS





This is a video of a minister asking Soriano what is the "Holy kiss" in Romans 16:16, poor Mr. Soriano was shocked and takes a long time to answer the minister.








Evangelical workers of ADD didnt show on the debate!

WHAT A SHAME











MR. ELISEO SORIANO: THE REAL COWARD!


I know the church of Soriano still saying and pointing out that it is the Iglesia ni Cristo ministers and especially Bro. Manalo is the cowards and doesnt want to debate Eliseo Soriano, tsk. WRONG!

It is Soriano himself is the real coward, how?


WHERE IS HE NOW! IM ASKING ALL THE MEMBERS OF ADD OF SORIANO, WHERE IS ELI SORIANO NOW?



Who the one is really hiding? Is it Bro. Manalo and ministers or Eliseo Soriano?

wait, before ending this, why is it that Bro. Manalo as executive minister do not do what Eliseo Soriano does? Like preaching on television, and so on, does that mean he is coward or hiding?


A VERY BIG NO!

The work of the executive minister is not to preach on television, not to debate to anybody. He is the 'tagapamahalang pangkalahatan', he is the administrator of the whole church, overseeing the church, and so on.

Like the president of the Philippines, his/her work is not for him to attend everyone's needs, go to every province to check each one of us... no, no, no! Instead of it, he/she assigned someone to do tasks that he/she cannot do byhis/herself! that's why we have government officials!
And in the INC, it is the same, it is not the administrator's task to preach on every locale, preach on t.v and so on. do you get my point?
It is not like Soriano, because his church is still a minority, he is the one who preach on t.v and because even he assigned members to do what he does, ofcourse they cannot do it, the question and answer task. hehe!

Members of Soriano's church recognize him as a messenger of god that's why he is the one who preaches, on the other hand, the INC recognize Bro. Felix Manalo as God's messenger in these last days, and the work of preaching is DONE by the last messenger of GOD! He is done on what Soriano still doing!
There is assigned to do public debates! I think this generation,
we have Bro. Jose Ventilation and Bro. Ramil Parba. If Eliseo Soriano cannot face our ministers to a debate, how can it be to the ADMINISTRATOR OF THE CHURCH?


CONCLUSION: Eliseo Soriano is the real deceiver, coward, and looser!


February 23, 2011

Trivia: World's Biggest Chapel


In what church has the BIGGEST CHAPEL IN THE WORLD?

ANY GUESS?



Is it the Iglesia ni Cristo Central Temple?






Im a member, but the truth is, NO.





Is it the Salt Lake Temple by the Church of Jesus Christ latter day saints?



No again.




Maybe the ROman Catholic Church's St. Peter's square Basilica?



Sadly but no.



Is it the ADD Convention Center by Members Church of God international?





Of course not!^^
especially its not a chapel, its a convention center.




What do you think?





CLUE:


The Chapel is not in Asia.

Not in Europe.

Not in North and South America.

Not in Australia....




Dont know the answer?






Faith Tabernacle is the headquarter church of Winners' Chapel.

It is in Canaanland, Ota, a suburb of Lagos, Nigeria. Faith Tabernacle has a capacity of 50,400 worshippers and it is reputed to be the world biggest church in terms of capacity.

The Church building was constructed in under a year in 1998 and hosts the annual Shiloh religious festival which comes up every December in the same Canaanland.

The Pastor in charge of Winners' Chapel, Bishop David Oyedepo, said that building the 50,000 black person capacity, biggest church in the world is from a revelation God gave to him (a black person) many years before it was constructed.

source: wikipedia


Yes. From Africa!


June 23, 2010

Eli Soriano's founded "church"



My Question was, is Eli's founded, a "church" or "organization"?

Why not checking out its latest name?

Ok, let us examine, this organization was known "Members church of god international"...

From the name itself we can see that it is not a church, but an organization!

But wait, let say, their church was "church of god" that it is always been defended by Eli himself, written in the bible, the true name of the church, as they claim... Then, is that called "Members church of god international" was the first title of Eli's founded "church"??

The answer??

NO!!

Because..... Its history goes like these:


From Teofilo Ora


On May 1922, former members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo, Teofilo Ora, Januario Ponce and Basilio Santiago gather some members of the Iglesia ni Cristo formally separating from the church. Several months later, they name the Church


Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus
(English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus)

That same year, Nicholas Perez became a member and preacher of this group at Maragondon, Cavite. In 1928, Nicholas Perez became its General Evangelist and soon sought the leadership of the group but was denied by Teofilo Ora. Some other members of the Teofilo Ora led church left and established their own churches. Ponciano Bungay established the Iglesia Ni Cristo sa Ibabaw ng Bato in 1932 while Basilio Santiago established the Church of God in Christ Jesus in 1949 and Salvador Payawal established the Kabanal-banalang Iglesia Ng Diyos.


From Nicholas Perez

In 1931, Nicholas Perez with Avelino Santiago left and started their group called


Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus
(English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus, Pillar and Support of The Truth).


According to Eliseo Soriano, Nicholas Perez was already preaching this Church way back in 1928 at Pulilan, Bulacan but according to INC sources, Nicholas Perez was still with the Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Hesus founded by Ora. It was not until December 10, 1936 that the Church of Nicholas Perez, Iglesia ng Diyos kay Cristo Hesus was officially registered in the Bureau of Commerce and Industry. In 1954, Avelino Santiago, Nicholas Perez’ co-founder of Iglesia ng Diyos kay Cristo Hesus Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan left the group and established his own church, Iglesia ng Diyos na Buhay kay Kristo Hesus.


To Eliseo Soriano

After the death of Nicholas Perez, a woman named Levita Gugulan was appointed to lead the Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Suhay ng Katotohanan as the Church Presiding Minister. Eliseo Soriano was a signatory on July 11, 1975 to the appointment of Gugulan. A month after, he again signed a memorandum stating that anyone who opposes their Church administration will be suspended and expelled. On January 2, 1976, Eliseo Soriano was then appointed by Levita Gugulan as one of their church’s Board of Directors. There were fifteen members of the Board. On February 21, 1976, he was expelled together with sixteen other members for inciting rebellion inside the church and teaching doctrines contrary to their beliefs. Soriano maintains that he was not expelled but voluntarily left his church as he firmly believes that a woman should not lead the church according to the bible.

#1
On March 30, 1977, two years after the death of Perez, Eliseo Soriano and followers registered his own group and called it the


Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus
(English Translation: Church of God in Christ Jesus)



#2

It seemed to Gugulan that Soriano had simply substituted the word “Suhay” to “Saligan”. Gugulan’s church then filed a lawsuit against Soriano on July 16, 1979 for using a similar church name. While the case was in progress he managed to register another church name,


Ang mga Kaanib sa Iglesia ng Dios kay Kristo Hesus, Haligi at Saligan ng Katotohanan sa Bansang Pilipinas, Incorporated (English Translation: The Members of The Church of God in Christ Jesus, Pillar and Ground of the Truth, Philippines, Incorporated)


on January 20, 1980.


#3

In 1993, Levita Gugulan’s successor Maximino Nieto found out that the name Soriano registered in 1980 is almost identical to his church. Soriano, aware of the possibility of being sued, registered the church name


Bayan ng Katotohanan Incorporated
(English Translation: City of Truth Incorporated)


in December 1993 before Nieto’s group was able to file another complaint against him.


#4
Nieto subsequently filed a complaint against Soriano's group in 1994 but while the case was still in progress, Soriano registered another name, the


Iglesia ni YHWH at ni YHWSA HMSYH, Inc.
(English Translation: Church of YHWH and of YHWSA HMSYH, Inc.).



#5

On January 13, 2004 Soriano registered and used the name,


Members Church of God International

From: Wikipedia



From Teofilo Ora, "Iglesia ng Diyos kay Kristo Jesus" to Eli Soriano, "Members church of god international"... I now then conclude that from its roots, its like Protestantism of Martin Luther. See it again, they were all divided as they focus on their personal interest in making their own "RELIGION". What's that interest?

Simple. Money and Richness!

That's why i pity to those people whom they lead and blinded by their own understandings into the bible. But, it is not the end, they can still examine the true teachings from the BIBLE. Not an adulterated one by authorities of their church, adding doctrines that is out of the bible...

Have you seen this self proclaimed "wise man"? Where is he??
Do he finally face the charges against him in his home country? (Philippines!)
Or still hiding in other country and say that he is only going to an EVANGELICAL WORKS?


Dont be fooled that he can answer all of your questions, his tactics are revealed, analyze first his answers if its all correct. Not because he is brave and always wanted a debate. Save your soul from this kind of preacher!



So, is the title "Members church of god international" a church, or a simple organization whose interests were to ask money from its members? Tsk. Tsk.


June 1, 2010

To all Ang Dating Daan members


To all ADD members, coming from the EX-ADD members inviting you to examine the true CHURCH OF CHRIST. But first are you not wondering IF the Ang Dating Daan is a religion or not?

So, if not, as i know it is only a program in the television, why is it the members call themselves and even the nonmembers calls you "ANG DATING DAAN members?" instead of "Members church of god INTERNATIONAL?"

That most people call the organization founded by Mr. Soriano Ang Dating Daan instead of Church of God version of Soriano? Oh, im sorry, Church of God? ^_^ 

It is because he HIMSELF explain it by saying Ang Dating Daan is a RELIGION!

Okay. So, a PREACHER who is very brave when answering questions always having contradictions? It is like 1 question, 3 different answers in different events? hmmm??





See? So ashaming! For i will conclude that there is no unity among the doctrines in the church he founded for his personal interests!

Lets back to the topic,

This is the video inviting all the ADD members or should i say MCGI to be in the true teachings written in the bible, a true CHURCH, not just like an ordinary organization in earth like the Church of Mr. Soriano... Again, Dont be blinded on his words that may convince you that he is a messenger of God only because he can answer many questions! You should also examine if he's answer is CORRECT... Not just accepting his answers even he did not really make it into a point!


May 23, 2010

Former members exposed MCGI and Eli Soriano


Let us hear the former members of the MCGI of Eli Soriano how there are so many anomalies in his founded organization...


ABOUT THE OFFERINGS





WORDS COMING FROM THE MOUTH OF AN EVANGELIST






BEGGING TO THE MEMBERS FOR THE DEBTS






FORBIDDING MEMBERS TO MARRY?






And many more! There are so many contradictions inside the church of Eliseo Soriano. But if you were blinded that it was the true religion, because of how "brave" Soriano answers questions from the nonmembers. That's why many of the members didnt see those contradictions... Especially in teachings and etc... Learn and examine those of Eli Soriano's teachings and his personality. So that in the end you will not be REGRET!

February 10, 2010

"Wise" man's contradictions



Frankly speaking, it is very convincing to join a church whose teacher/minister/priest and whatever it is called, can answer all of your questions concerning religion... Especially this church of Eliseo Soriano, called "Members church of god international" that attracts many because of Eli's style of preaching and answering questions coming from the guests.

BUT, it is a STRANGE THING that whatever you ask to him, it can be answered especially nonsense questions that is not such related to the religion.^_^ RIGHT? Lets say, YES. Questions were answered by him, but the question is, are his ANSWERS right? okay. that's the BIG THING! If his answers are all correct... And because Eli answered questions from the guets, they also claim that the answers were all straight or directly from the BIBLE. Hmmm. Let us see!

Another... Who is he to claim that he was the wise man and that he able to answer any questions using the bible? And the kind of answering questions and preaching of him is like he is brighter than Einstein and that he cannot have any mistakes? Tsk. Tsk. How could he? That the truth is, he cannot even finished his highschool and the funny thing is, "With his parents eagerly convincing him to go to school, he finally entered at the age of eight, but he skipped his classes and escaped his teachers." (esoriano.wordpress.com) [haha...]

Okay...

And because of how brave he is when answering any questions... He does not noticing the he makes many CONTRADICTION.

Example? THIS:





And many other...


I think there are 100+ contradiction made by Eli soriano itself.
Just click here: EliVSsoriano, and ElixVsxEliseo



QUESTION: Can say that answers came DIRECTLY on the BIBLE? or came from the OPINION and Eliseo Soriano itself? Tsk.Tsk.



January 13, 2010

The persecution to the Iglesia Ni Cristo



Every pioneer members/ministers and etc. in the Iglesia ni cristo, Church of Christ knows how the church suffered from the great persecution coming from nonmembers. Since then its very beginning and until now, the church and members not only having persecuted but also have been discriminate by other faiths in many aspect.

There were stories that in the time of Bro. Felix Manalo's and even ministers preaching in the worship service, that the roof of the house of worship were being thrown by stones. And in the side of the members, others were also being thrown not just by stones but also negative comments and they were being hated. And so many stories that you cant even imagine that was overcome by the INC and its members!

(Nowadays, the groups/people who still doing this most were the Cathholics, especially the Catholic faith defenders and Members of the church of Eli Soriano [MCGI] and other faiths.) How? By making articles using propaganda materials and specially through the use of the Internet or web... Many blogs and sites of these anti-INC people contains accusations, destructive opinions, lies and everything. Why? Very simple. They want others to have a bad impression to the INC as well as its members. Other reason? Because they get envy because of how far the Iglesia Ni Cristo accomplished as it is being a small group with few members but now, the INC spreads in 92 countries and 100+ nationalities! (That's how God guide and still guiding the church)

But we, as the members of the Church of Christ were not surprised in all of these, why? it is because the bible itself testifies:
"And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end, the same shall be saved. " Matt 10: 22
We know that we will also suffer being hated by other. Because it is Lord Jesus Christ first who suffered all of these:


"If the world hates you, remember that it hated me first." John 15:18
And we, as the members of Christ's Church doing God's will wants to be saved.
"In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted," II tim. 3:12
BUT, should we be ashamed because of these?
"But if you suffer because you are a Christian, do not be ashamed. Praise God because you wear that name." I pet. 4:16
Clearly, we should not be ashamed instead, we must be thankful coz' we are in the Church of Christ and that we are called Christian because we are member of Christ's body or Church. (Church of Christ --> ...rch of Christ --> CHRISTian)

Also because we will be blessed,
"People will insult you and hurt you. They will lie and say all kinds of evil things about you because you follow me. But when they do, you will be blessed." Matt. 5:11
"Rejoice and be glad, because you have a great reward waiting for you in heaven. People did the same evil things to the prophets who lived before you." Matt. 5:12
"When people insult you because you follow Christ, you are blessed, because the glorious Spirit, the Spirit of God, is with you." I Pet. 4:14
Another, we should not afraid of our enemies, because those will be destroyed and that we will be saved.
"and that you are not afraid of those who are against you. All of this is proof that your enemies will be destroyed but that you will be saved by God." Phil. 1:28

Lets go back on being ashamed, and it is answered, we should not be, because the one should be ASHAMED were:
"Those who worship idols should be ashamed; they brag about their gods.
All the gods should worship the Lord. " Psalms 97:7
Why idol worshipers should be ashamed? Because they changed the glory of god in CULT-IMAGES!
"Claiming to be wise, they became fools and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man, birds, four-footed animals, and reptiles."
Rom 1:22-23
And what?
"They traded the truth of God for a lie. They worshiped and served what had been created instead of the God who created those things, who should be praised forever. Amen." Rom. 1:25
OKAY, Very clear, again, the one who SHOULD be ashamed is those who WORSHIP IMAGES because they traded the truth for a LIE! They made statues/images and worship it rather than the CREATOR OF LIFE(God, the father)!

Ask this to yourself, "Do i feel guilty for this?"

November 24, 2009

Whose are more of business?




Roman Catholic Church

The number of Catholic institutions as of 2000 Institutions
Primary and secondary schools 125,016
Universities 1,046
Hospitals 5,853
Orphanages 8,695
Homes for the elderly and handicapped 13,933
Dispensaries, leprosaries, nurseries and other institutions 74,936
source: wikipedia
Seventh day Adventist

The following Statistics are as of December 31, 2007
Companies 61,361
Total Schools 7,442
Tertiary Institutions 107
Worker Training Institutions 42
Primary Schools 5,716
Secondary Schools 1,577
Food Industries 24
Hospitals and Sanitariums 168
Nursing Homes and Retirement Centers 130
Clinics and Dispensaries 433
Orphanages and Children's Homes 33
Airplanes and Medical Launches 10
Media Centers 10
source: Adventist.org
Jehova's witnesses

Owned businesses:
≡ Advance Book Bindery Ltd.
≡ American Travel Bethel Tours
≡ Bethel Tours
≡ Bible Songs
≡ C & H Bookbinding
≡ Joel VandenBerg Custom Book Binding
≡ JP Productions
≡ Majestic Software
≡ McKenna Bookcovers
≡ Ministry Ideaz
≡ MJC Products
≡ MyFieldService.com
≡ New World Songs
≡ R.J. Schneider Bookbinding
≡ Rosemead Guest House (England)
≡ Service Supplies
≡ Stoops Manufacturing Company
≡ Theocratic Bookbinding
source: jehova.to/links.htm

The Church of Jesus Christ of latter day saints
“…About ten percent of its funding also comes from income on investments and real estate holdings…” 
The church's holdings include:
  • AgReserves Inc. - the largest producer of nuts in the United States (circa. 1997)
  • Hawaii Reserves, Inc. - Miscellaneous church holdings in Hawaii. When combined with the Polynesian Cultural Center (the leading paid visitor attraction in Hawaii) and Brigham Young University-Hawaii, LDS Church-related entities generated revenue of $260 million for the Hawaii economy in 2005.
  • Farmland Reserve Inc. - 228,000 acres (923 km²) in Nebraska,; 51,600 acres in Osage County, Oklahoma; and over 312,000 acres (1,260 km²) in Florida (dba Deseret Cattle and Citrus).
  • Bonneville International Corporation - the 14th largest radio chain in the U.S.
  • Deseret News - a daily Utah newspaper, second-largest in the state of Utah.
  • Beneficial Financial Group - An insurance and financial services company with assets of $3.1 billion.
-Brigham Young University,
-Brigham Young University–Idaho (formerly Ricks College),
-Brigham Young University Hawaii, and
-LDS Business College.
source: wikipedia
Members church of God international
Registry of Deeds
Province of Pampanga
San Fernando Branch

On the basis of documents furnished us, the land subject of this appraisal consists of eighteen (18) contiguous lots containing an aggregate area of 90,816 sq. meters more or less, technically identified as follows:
Lot no.
TCT No.
Area (Sq. M.)
Registered Owner
2107-F-1-B, Psd-03-10
2107-F-1-C, Psd-03-10
2107-F-2-A-2
211-F, (LRC) Psd-113664
Portion of lot B, Psd-03-071575
1. Psd-03-016835
2. Psd-03-016835
483746-R
483747-R
483744-R
476095-R
488582-R
489336-R
489337-R
100
1,718
870
21,659
14,779
10,005
9,750
Eliseo F Soriano
Eliseo F Soriano
Eliseo F Soriano
Eliseo F Soriano
Eliseo F Soriano
Eliseo F Soriano
Eliseo F Soriano
The above Transfer Certificates of Title, Deed of Absolute Sale and Deed of Conditional Sale were issued in favor of their respective owners by the Registry of Deeds for the Province of Pampanga.

Dito nakatirik ang mga gusaling ADD Convention Center, La Verdad Christian School, ADD Apartments, ADD Medical Pavillion, Hotel, ADD Cooperative Office, ADD Cooperative Stores, ADD Foundation Orphanage, Administration office, ADD Museum and ADD Sizzling House
Eliseo Soriano’s properties
-10-hectare fishpond
-MORNING STAR auto supply - Sucat Parañaque
-DSR photo studio - Roosebelt Ave. dito sa Q.C
-DSR Ent. - Apalit Pampanga
-ADD farm - Hermosa Bataan
-Morong Beach Resort - Bataan
-ADD on life water refilling station - Sampaloc Apalit Pampanga.
-LINAMNAM fastfood restaurant - Roosebelt Ave. Q. C.
-EFS General Merchandising - Sucat Parañaque
-Apalit POULTRY SUPPLY - Apalit Pampanga
-ADD apartment - Apalit Pampangga
source: jesus-is-savior.com

Detractors of the INC always says that the church is only a corporation owned by Manalos,  they also say that INC is just a business of the Manalos.  

But, what's this? Whose are more of business?!

 Youre the one to judge!   
But after i end this, to be fair, lets include the list of the INC's: 

Iglesia ni Cristo

New Era General Hospital

source: wikepedia




September 13, 2009

Eli Soriano on "Special Assignment"


Mr. Eliseo Soriano was featured in a documentary tv show in the Philippines which tackle issues about him and his church. Let us all watch the video: