Pagtalakay sa pagsamba sa rebulto kasama ang isang dating pari ng Apostolic Catholic Church

Ano ang Apostolic Catholic Church (Philippines)?

The Apostolic Catholic Church (ACC) is an autocephalous denomination founded by ex-Catholic John Teruel, which is based in the Philippines. It claims to trace its faith and worship from the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church that Jesus Christ established upon Peter, and was governed by the Apostles. This makes the denomination a Christian primitivist movement, described by itself as "paleo-orthodox", albeit not in the accepted sense of the term. The denomination follows a Trinitarian theology.

The denomination prays for the unity of the Roman Catholic Church and the Orthodox Church, but is regarded as schismatic by the Roman Catholic Church, of which its founder is a former member.

source: wikipedia 

Pansinin ang interbyu sa mga tao tungkol sa pagsamba sa imahen ang larawan, yan po ang binabanggit ko sa artikulo kong "Sumasamba nga bang talaga ang mga Katoliko sa mga imahen at stawa?" na kung isusurvey natin ang buong Pilipinas, mas marami ang porsyento ng mga Katoliko na LITERAL na sumasamba sa mga ito. Sabihin man ng mga depensor Katoliko na wala silang ganung doktrina at ipinagbabawal sa kanila iyon, hindi nila maitatanggi ang katotohanan na malaki ang porsyento ng mga Katoliko, ang sabi ko nga ay SUMASAMBA sa imahen at statwa.

Kaya sana ay huwag na nila itong ideny at sana rin ay huwag nilang masamain ang mga Iglesia ni Cristo at paratangan pang mga sinungaling kapag sinasabi naming sumasamba sila sa mga ito, sila pa mismo ang tanungin nyo kung sumasamba sila sa mga iyon at makukuha nyo ang hindi nyo inaasahang isasagot nila...

 

Sino o ano ba ang Diyos sa Juan 1:1, si Kristo ba o ang Salita?

Hindi ba kayo nagtataka sa verse na laging ginagamit ng mga trinitarians para patunayang Diyos si Kristo? At alam nyo bang mismong mga bible scholars at bible translators ang hanggang ngayoy nag-aaway away sa hindi mapagkasunduang salin ng John 1:1 kung dapat bang ito ay "the Word was God" o "the Word was a god" kung kayat ang iba ay may ibang pagkakasalin din tulad ng "the Word was divine" at iba pa?

Hindi ko na pahahabain ang post kong ito, kayo na lang po mismo ang mag-isip kung ito bang verse na ito ay pinapatunayang Diyos si Kristo...

Ibalik natin ang tanong, Sino o ano ba ang "diyos" na kasama ng "Diyos (Almighty God, the Father)" na nasa John 1:1? Si Kristo ba o ang Salita?

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God." NIV

"In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god." NWT

Ang kinuhaan ko ng salin ng John 1:1 ay isang trinitarian at isang non-trinitarian para patas, at sa dalawang salin na ito malinaw na malinaw kung sino o ano ang binabanggit na "diyos o Diyos".

Maaaring sabihin ng ilan, "si Kristo yang WORD na yan! eto oh, Rev. 19:13, basa..."

 "He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God." NIV

 "He wore a robe dipped in blood, and his title was the Word of God." NLT

"Puno ng dugo ang kanyang kasuotan at ang tawag sa kanya ay "Salita ng Diyos."" BMB

Maliwanag ang nakasulat, kung si Kristo nga ang tinutukoy dito, ang sabi, ang tawag sa kaniya o ang pangalan niya o ang titulo niya ay "SALITA NG DIYOS". Malayo sa nakasaad sa John 1:1 kung saan sinasabi nilang "Ang Salita" ay si Kristo. Magkaiba rin ang "Salita ng Diyos" sa "Ang Salita ay Diyos".

Kung ganyan ang paliwanag nila, halatang halata naman na pansarili lang nilang interprestasyon yon. Ano ba talaga si Kristo, SALITA NG DIYOS o ANG SALITA?

Isa pang tanong, sino o ano ba ang naging laman o naging tao, si Kristo ba o ang Salita?

"The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth." NIV

"So the Word became human and made his home among us. He was full of unfailing love and faithfulness. And we have seen his glory, the glory of the Father's one and only Son." NLV

Kayo na po ang bahalang humusga at sumagot...

Paalala lang, sa bibliya po tayo maniwala at hindi sa mga pansariling interpretasyon ng kung sino. Maliwanag na maliwanag ang nakasulat, wag nating dadagdagan NI babawasan.

Baka sakaling makatulog sa inyong pagsusuri: http://readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com/2012/12/si-kristo-ba-ay-tao-lang.html

Nalalapit na naman ang eleksyon

Eto na naman ang eleksyon sa Pilipinas, at kapag usapin sa eleksyon at relihiyon, imposibleng hindi mababanggit ang pangalan ng Iglesia ni Cristo dyan. At imposible ring hindi babatikusin ng paulit-ulit-ulit-ulit ng mga hindi myembro ang kaisahan sa pagboto na ginagawa simula pa noong 1st Philippine election, panahon ng pagkakalulok ni Former Pres. Manuel Quezon na sinuportahan din ng INC.

Hindi ko lubos maisip kung bakit sa hinaba haba ng panahon, imagine noong 1935 ay nagkaroon na ng kaisahan sa pagboto ang INC, ibig sabihin 78 years na itong ginagawa paulit ulit tuwing eleksyon pero ang mga reaksyon at opinyon ng MEDIA at mga hindi myembro ay paulit ulit ulit lang din kahit pagod na pagod na pagod na ang mga myembro sa kakasagot sa magkakaparehas na tanong na ito, ilang beses na rin itong nasagot sa PASUGO MAGAZINE ng Iglesia ni Cristo.


1. Wala naman sa bibliya yang bloc voting nyo, gawa gawa nyo lang ng mga ministro nyo yan!
2. Bakit nakikisawsaw sa pulitika ang Iglesia ni Cristo, hindi na ginalang ang separation of church and state!
3. Mga uto uto naman kayong mga myembro, hindi kayo binigyan ng kalayaan ng lider nyo sa pagboto!
4. May bayad at kapalit naman yang pagsuporta nyo sa mga pulitiko!
5. Sinasabi nyo milyun milyon kayo pero marami sa mga sinuportahan nyo hindi naman nanalo sa eleksyon!

Meron ba akong nakalimutan?^^

Maraming makakabasa nito at magtataas ng kilay at magsasabing "eh totoo naman yan eh!"

Opo. Naging totoo nga dahil yun ang naikintal sa isip nyo ng MEDIA, ng mga kakilala nyo at mga magulang nyo tungkol sa kaisahan ng pagboto ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Ang lahat nilang opinyon at reaksyon ay nakaapekto at nakaimpluwensya sa paghatol o pagjujudge nyo sa bloc voting na ito ng Iglesia habang tumatanda kayo. Pero maniwala man kayo o hindi, lahat po ito ay PAWANG KASINUNGALINGAN at kahit kailan, sa 78 years nang ginagawa ito ay walang makakapagpatunay sa mga AKUSASYONG ito. Itoy pawang mga kathang isip na naisalin habang lumilipas ang panahon, at syempre sa tulong ng MEDIA, lalong nilang pinapapangit at pinapasama ang imahe ng Iglesia ni Cristo sa madla.

Maaaring itanong ng ilan, bakit mo naman sinasabing pawang kasinungalingan ang opinyon ng media tungkol sa bloc voting nyo? Di bat silay nagbabalita lamang?

May punto kayo, pero naisip nyo ba kung papaano gumawa ang reporters tungkol sa SHOWBIZ at reporters tungkol sa POLITICS? Magka pareho lang eh!^^

Kumbaga pag gagawa ka ng article, dapat yung title mo catchy, at yung content mo may maanghang na pasabog para hindi mabobored ang magbabasa ng artikulo mo. Ganyan na ganyan ang ginagawa ng reporters, hindi lang basta tama ang impormasyon binabalita nila, SOBRA pa, dinadagdagan nila at binibigyan nila ng konting kulay ang mga usapin para lalong mapag-usapan.

Nagets nyo ba ang punto ko?^^

Nito lang February 28, 2012, ang Iglesia ni Cristo ay nagsagawa ng MALAKIHANG PAMAMAHAYAG sa Quirino Grandstand at sa ibat ibang bahagi ng Pilipinas bilang panimula sa tema sa taong yon, ito ay ang "Puspusang pagpapalaganap ng mga Salita ng Diyos" bilang paghahanda sa 100th anniversary sa July 2014. 

Eto namang makakati ang dilang mga taga-Media kasama na ang kanilang out of the world imagination ay ikinonekta ang PAMAMAHAYAG kay Corona. Nag-isip din ako, akala ko ba puro katotohanan ang ibinabalita ng mga taga-MEDIA? Hindi ba sila nagreresearch kung ano ang pamamahayag? O puro opinyon lang talaga ang nilalahad nila at hindi na sila gumagawa ng mas malalim na research?

Nakakatawa kasi ang mga reaksyon nila, sabi daw show of force, kesyo para ipakita kay Pres. Aquino ang milyon milyong myembro ng INC, na kesyo para balaan daw ang mga senator judges na mag ingat sa paghatol kay Corona, kesyo bakit hindi daw sumali ang El Shaddai sa religious rally/political rally/prayer rally, kesyo bakit daw maraming pulitiko ang inimbitahan...

Parang eto oh, isang ignoranteng nagmamayabang wala naman palang alam:

I congratulate columnist Conrado de Quiros for another incisive commentary, “Voice of God.” (Inquirer, 3/1/12)

I share his misgivings over the real intent of the so-called prayer rally held by the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) last Feb. 28 at the Luneta. If it was a prayer rally, why was Supreme Court spokesman Midas Marquez present? Is Marquez a member of the INC? Or was he ordered by Chief Justice Renato Corona himself to be highly visible in this “religious” gathering to convey to one and all that the INC supports Corona all the way? So much for the non-political character of the rally.

I know for a fact that our Constitution strictly provides for the separation of Church and State. My understanding of this is that religious sects or denominations should keep off secular and state affairs, and the state should keep off religious affairs.

—JOHN CUBE, johncube@hotmail.ph 

source: inquirer.net

Hindi ko alam kung bakit kailangang magmagaling ng mga taong wala namang kaalam alam sa isyu, hindi lang po siya ang ganyan kundi napakarami pang iba, nagkalat sila noong kasagsagan ng isyung yan sa mga forums at comment section ng mga balita tungkol doon.

Baka hanggang ngayon ay wala pa ring alam ang iba kung ano bang meron sa PAMAMAHAYAG (EVANGELICAL MISSION), ito po ay isang aktibidad sa Iglesia ni Cristo kung saan nag aanyaya ng mga di kapananampalataya upang makapakinig at makapagsuri sa mga aral ng Iglesia ni Cristo.


ANONG NANGYARI PAGKATAPOS ANG PAMAMAHAYAG NG IGLESIA NI CRISTO?

PAHIYA ang mga taga-MEDIA, mga inggiterot inggetera at ang mga nagmamagaling na nanghusga muna bago alamin ang katotohanan. Para silang naposses ng dyablo dahil sa mga kasinungalingang nilahad nila sa publiko lalo nat pinapasama lagi nila ang imahe ng INC sa mga tao.

Tanong, bakit ko nabanggit ito?

Ayon kasi sa mga nabasa ko sa mga forums ay may gaganapin na namang malaking pamamahayag ang Iglesia sa April 2013, hindi pa naman daw ito sigurado o kung ano pa man pero saka sakaling itoy totoo, alam na naman natin ang mangyayari niyan... Ikokonek na naman panigurado yan sa nalalapit na ELEKSYON!

Oh ngayon alam nyo na ah, February pa lang tignan natin ang magiging balita na naman at ang mga maiitim na balak na naman ng mga di mapigilang mainggit sa INC...

 

Philippine Arena and Philippine Stadium Feb. 2013 UPDATE

 



Credits to the original owner of these photos^^ 


Next 'Tourism Mecca' in Bulacan

MALOLOS CITY, Bulacan - Development is making its way in Bulacan alongside plans of the Regional Development Council 3 (RDC) to establish the next "Tourism Mecca" of Central Luzon in this province.
In line with this ambitious plan, the RDC approved last Wednesday proposed Central Bulacan Tourism Loop project presented by the provincial government at the joint meeting of the Sectoral Committee on Infrastructure Development (SCID) and the Special Committee on Tourism (SCOT) held at the Hiyas ng Bulacan Convention Center.

Governor Wilhelmino N. Sy-Alvarado, chairman of the SCID of RDC III, said the project intends to improve the tourism road networks of the province and a poverty reduction intervention to promote the general welfare of the Bulakenyos through the implementation of efficient and effective Tourism Development and Promotion Programs.

He said the project aims to capitalize on the opportunities and socio-economic development impact that the on-going construction of the Philippine Arena in Bocaue town.

The Philippine Arena - also known as the "Ciudad de Victoria in the province is expected to become a huge tourist destination for it will include the biggest dome in the world, a tertiary hospital, university, sports complex and other facilities.

He said that when finished, the Philippine Arena could accommodate at least 65,000 people. It is being built on a 70-hectare parcel of land in Bocaue and parts of Sta. Maria town.

Alvarado said the project will directly affect the socio-economic activities of the influence area including that of 7 municipalities and 29 villages with an aggregate total population of 162,200.

"It won't be long now and the world be focused on the Philippines, and of course particularly the province of Bulacan. This will definitely spur growth and development in the area," Alvarado said.

The Philippine Arena is being rushed for the centennial anniversary celebration of the Iglesia ni Cristo church in 2014 and could possibly be the next venue of the APEC Summit in 2015.

Arlene Pascual, head of the Provincial Planning and Development Office, presented the proposed Central Bulacan Tourism Loop Project which will be executed in cooperation with the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) and the Department of Tourism (DOT) through the DPWH-DOT Tourism Convergence Program.

source: yahoo.com


Prices of Agricultural Lands in Bulacan Rise

BOCAUE, Bulacan—Prices of agricultural lands in Bocaue have increased drastically due to the economic growth the town is expected to experience once the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC or Church of Christ) finishes building its Philippine Arena there, Gov. Wilhelmino Sy-Alvarado of Bulacan province said on Tuesday.

During a forum on post-harvest loss or reduction of palay (unhusked rice) held at the Bocaue municipal hall, Sy-Alvarado said reports reaching him showed that before the indoor arena’s construction began, the price of farmlands in the town was P300 per square meter, before ballooning to P7,000 per sq m as construction progressed.

The Philippine Arena is the INC’s centerpiece project and is expected to be completed within 30 months in time for the religious organization’s centennial in 2014, according to a report by Jerry Caguingin of the investment and promotion unit of the Provincial Cooperative and Enterprise Development.

The indoor arena has a seating capacity of 50,000 to 55,000, a floor area of 74,000 sq m and its dome measures nearly 36,000 meters, making it the world’s largest. Its construction cost is estimated at $212 million or approximately P9 billion.

The Ciudad de Victoria, where the Philippine Arena is being constructed, will be home to the EGM Memorial Medical Center, the New Era University-Bulacan campus, the New Era University Sports Stadium Complex and the EVM Convention Center.

The governor advised the town’s farmers to consider any offer to buy their land very carefully, saying that once the indoor arena and other structures within its vicinity are built, the value of real-estate properties will increase.

source: businessmiror.com.ph

Si Kristo ba ay Diyos dahil mayroon na siyang kaluwalhatian bago pa likhain ang daigdig ayon sa Juan 17:5?

May isang nagkomento sa isang post ko dito at ang sabi nya eh bakit daw hindi tinutuloy ang pagbasa sa verse na John 17:1 na madalas ikowt ng Iglesia ni Cristo para naman daw hindi mapagbintangan ang INC na namimili ng verse na yung umaayon lang sa doktrina, sa john 17:5 daw kasi ay mababasa na sinabi ni kristo ang ganito: 

 New International Version (©1984)
And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Now, Father, bring me into the glory we shared before the world began.

English Standard Version (©2001)
And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Now, Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Now, Father, glorify Me in Your presence with that glory I had with You before the world existed.

International Standard Version (©2012)
"So now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world existed."

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“Now, glorify me, my Father, in union with yourself, in that glory which I had in union with you before the universe was.”

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Now, Father, give me glory in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world existed.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
And now, O Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was.

American King James Version
And now, O Father, glorify you me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world was.

American Standard Version
And now, Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Douay-Rheims Bible
And now glorify thou me, O Father, with thyself, with the glory which I had, before the world was, with thee.

Darby Bible Translation
and now glorify me, thou Father, along with thyself, with the glory which I had along with thee before the world was.

English Revised Version
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Webster's Bible Translation
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thy ownself, with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.

Weymouth New Testament
And now, Father, do Thou glorify me in Thine own presence, with the glory that I had in Thy presence before the world existed.

World English Bible Now, Father, glorify me with your own self with the glory which I had with you before the world existed.

Young's Literal Translation
'And now, glorify me, Thou Father, with Thyself, with the glory that I had before the world was, with Thee;

source: bible.cc

Gustong palabasin o ipunto ng nagkoment sa isa kong post na DIYOS SI KRISTO dahil lang sa kaniyang "pre-existence".Kung susuriin natin ang verse, wala tayong makikita na kinlaim ni Kristo na DIYOS siya, maiintindihan ko pa sana ang nagkoment kung ang ipinupunto niya ang pre-existence ni Kristo at hindi ang PAGKA-DIYOS NIYA, magkaiba kasi yun!^^

Para sa ibang di nakaka-alam, yung pre-existence po na tinatawag eh yung naniniwalang bago pa isilang si Kristo dito sa mundo ay nag-eexist na siya kasama ng Diyos sa langit.

Tanong, eto bang verse na ito ay katunayan na Diyos si Kristo? HINDI. 
Eh baka naman isa itong katunayan na meron syang pre-existence? HINDI RIN.

Paano ko nasabi? Kasi naman, kung tatanggapin nating DIYOS at may PRE-EXISTENCE SI KRISTO dahil dito sa sinasabing "the glory which i had with you before the world existed", na sinasabi nila oh, past tense, ibig sabihin NAKALIPAS, kasi "i had" nga daw, saka pano naman mangyayaring wala daw pre-existence si Kristo eh may kaluwalhatian na siya BAGO PA MAN GAWIN ANG MUNDO. Kung ganyan ang ating isip, eh di DIYOS DIN PALA at MAY PRE-EXISTENCE SI APOSTOL PABLO AT ANG MGA KRISTIYANO DATI:

New International Version (©1984)
For he chose us in him before the creation of the world to be holy and blameless in his sight. In love

New Living Translation (©2007)
Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes.

English Standard Version (©2001)
even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and blameless before him. In love

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and blameless before Him. In love

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
For He chose us in Him, before the foundation of the world, to be holy and blameless in His sight. In love

International Standard Version (©2012)
just as he chose us in the Messiah before the creation of the universe to be holy and blameless in his presence. In love

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
Just as he chose us beforehand in him from before the foundation of the universe, that we shall be holy and without spot before him, and he ordained us beforehand in love for himself.

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Before the creation of the world, he chose us through Christ to be holy and perfect in his presence.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
According as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

American King James Version
According as he has chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

American Standard Version
even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love:

Douay-Rheims Bible
As he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and unspotted in his sight in charity.

Darby Bible Translation
according as he has chosen us in him before the world's foundation, that we should be holy and blameless before him in love;

English Revised Version
even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blemish before him in love:

Webster's Bible Translation
According as he hath chosen us in him, before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Weymouth New Testament
even as, in His love, He chose us as His own in Christ before the creation of the world, that we might be holy and without blemish in His presence.

World English Bible
even as he chose us in him before the foundation of the world, that we would be holy and without blemish before him in love;

Young's Literal Translation
according as He did choose us in him before the foundation of the world, for our being holy and unblemished before Him, in love,

Eph. 1:4 source: bible.cc

Oh, teka, baka naman humirit yung ilan, bat kulang kulang ka magkwot readme, magkokowt ka nalang di mo pa nilubos. Oh sige pagbigyan, sa john 17 pa rin kasi, sa verse 24, eto ang nakalagay:

New International Version (©1984)
"Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

New Living Translation (©2007)
Father, I want these whom you have given me to be with me where I am. Then they can see all the glory you gave me because you loved me even before the world began!

English Standard Version (©2001)
Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
"Father, I desire that they also, whom You have given Me, be with Me where I am, so that they may see My glory which You have given Me, for You loved Me before the foundation of the world.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
Father, I desire those You have given Me to be with Me where I am. Then they will see My glory, which You have given Me because You loved Me before the world's foundation.

International Standard Version (©2012)
Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am and to see my glory, which you gave me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
“Father, I will that these whom you have given me shall also be with me, that they shall see my glory which you have given me, because you have loved me from before the foundation of the world. “

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
"Father, I want those you have given to me to be with me, to be where I am. I want them to see my glory, which you gave me because you loved me before the world was made.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Father, I will that they also, whom you have given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which you have given me: for you loved me before the foundation of the world.

American King James Version
Father, I will that they also, whom you have given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which you have given me: for you loved me before the foundation of the world.

American Standard Version
Father, I desire that they also whom thou hast given me be with me where I am, that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Douay-Rheims Bible
Father, I will that where I am, they also whom thou hast given me may be with me; that they may see my glory which thou hast given me, because thou hast loved me before the creation of the world.

Darby Bible Translation
Father, as to those whom thou hast given me, I desire that where I am they also may be with me, that they may behold my glory which thou hast given me, for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

English Revised Version
Father, that which thou hast given me, I will that, where I am, they also may be with me; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Webster's Bible Translation
Father, I will that they also whom thou hast given to me be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory which thou hast given to me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Weymouth New Testament
"Father, those whom Thou hast given me--I desire that where I am they also may be with me, that they may see the glory--my glory--my gift from Thee, which Thou hast given me because Thou didst love me before the creation of the world.

World English Bible
Father, I desire that they also whom you have given me be with me where I am, that they may see my glory, which you have given me, for you loved me before the foundation of the world.

Young's Literal Translation
'Father, those whom Thou hast given to me, I will that where I am they also may be with me, that they may behold my glory that Thou didst give to me, because Thou didst love me before the foundation of the world.

source: bible.cc

Sasabihin ng iba, oh ayan oh, kitang kita, hindi lang nagkaroon ng kaluwalhatian si Kristo, MINAHAL pa siya ng Diyos BAGO PA LIKHAIN ANG MUNDO, oh, past tense yan ah, ibig sabihin nag-eexist na siya bago pa siya isinilang sa mundo.

Eh kung ganyan ang ating pananaw sa buhay, eh di tanggapin din natin na nag-eexist na si Apostol Pablo at ang mga Kristyano dati, BAGO PA LIKHAIN ANG MUNDO:

New Living Translation (©2007)
Even before he made the world, God loved us and chose us in Christ to be holy and without fault in his eyes. Eph. 1:4

Oh eh di tapos ang usapan... ^^

PINILI (past tense) at MINAHAL (past tense) din pala sila ng Diyos BAGO PA LIKHAIN ANG MUNDO. Pero para sa inyo, alamin natin ang katotohanan kung bakit sinabi sa bibliya na MINAHAL at nagkaroon na ng kaluwalhatian si Kristo, BAGO PA LALANGIN ANG MUNDO.

Tutal, pinag uusapan na rin yang, before the foundation of the world na yan o before the world was made na yan, hanapin natin sa bibliya ang sinasabi tungkol kay Kristo, SIYA NGA BA AY NAG-EEXIST NA BAGO PA SIYA ISILANG o NAG-EXIST LANG SIYA NUNG ISILANG SIYA SA MUNDO?

Hayaan nating ang bibliya mismo ang sumagot:

New International Version (©1984)
He was chosen before the creation of the world, but was revealed in these last times for your sake.

New Living Translation (©2007)
God chose him as your ransom long before the world began, but he has now revealed him to you in these last days.

English Standard Version (©2001)
He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For He was foreknown before the foundation of the world, but has appeared in these last times for the sake of you

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
He was chosen before the foundation of the world but was revealed at the end of the times for you

International Standard Version (©2012)
On the one hand, he was foreknown before the creation of the world, but on the other hand, he was revealed at the end of time for your sake.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
He was appointed beforehand to this before the foundation of the world and was manifested at the end of times for you;

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
He is the lamb who was known long ago before the world existed, but for your good he became publicly known in the last period of time.

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Who verily was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

American King James Version
Who truly was foreordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifest in these last times for you,

American Standard Version
who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was manifested at the end of times for your sake,

Douay-Rheims Bible
Foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but manifested in the last times for you,

Darby Bible Translation
foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but who has been manifested at the end of times for your sakes,

English Revised Version
who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was manifested at the end of the times for your sake,

Webster's Bible Translation
Who verily was fore-ordained before the foundation of the world, but was manifested in these last times for you,

Weymouth New Testament
He was pre-destined indeed to this work, even before the creation of the world, but has been plainly manifested in these last days for the sake of you who, through Him,

World English Bible
who was foreknown indeed before the foundation of the world, but was revealed at the end of times for your sake,

Young's Literal Translation foreknown, indeed, before the foundation of the world, and manifested in the last times because of you,

1 Pet: 1:20 source: bible.cc

Marami ang mga terms na ginamit sa nagbanggit na verse, tulad ng appointed, chosen, foreknown, foreordained at pre-destined. Tanong, ano ba ang ibig sabihin nito?

Tanungin natin si dictionary para maintindihan natin:

Foreknowledge
Knowledge or awareness of something before its existence or occurrence; prescience. source

Foreordain
To determine or appoint beforehand; predestine. source

Pre-destine

1. To fix upon, decide, or decree in advance; foreordain.

2. Theology To foreordain or elect by divine will or decree.

source

Yung appointed at chosen siguro naman alam na natin ang ibig sabihin, tagalugin ko na lang: PINILI (past tense). Kung si Kristo ay NAG-EEXIST NA BAGO PA LIKHAIN ANG MUNDO, wala ng dahilan para magkaroon ng foreknowledgement sa kanya, bakit? ano nga ba ulit ang ibig sabihin nun?

 "Knowledge or awareness of something before its existence or occurrence..."

KNOWLEDGE OR AWARENESS daw OF SOMETHING BEFORE, ulit, BEFORE ITS EXISTENCE. 

Tanong, kelan ba NAG-EXIST si Kristo, ayon sa bibliya?

" But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law," Gal. 4:4 

"The birth of Jesus Christ took place in this way. His mother Mary had been promised to Joseph in marriage. But before they were married, Mary realized that she was pregnant by the Holy Spirit." Matt. 1:18

Kaya nga sa verses na madalas gamitin ng mga trinitarians, ganitong ganito ang nangyari:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth..." John 1:1, 14

Nang sa pasimula daw ay naroon ang SALITA, itong salita na tinutukoy dito ay hindi mismo si Kristo kundi ito yung foreknowledgement o ang pangako o ang plano ng Diyos na ang kalalabasan ay si Kristo, kaya nga sa John 1:14 sinabi na ang SALITA AY NAGING LAMAN o NAGING TAO. Ito ay noong isinilang si Kristo ng kaniyang inang si Maria, ito ang panahon ng kanyang EXISTENCE, dito natupad ang FOREKNOWLEDGE na tinatawag, dahil dati pa ay PINILI na ng Diyos si Kristo.

Ngayon naman, balikan natin ang Eph. 1:4 kung saan BAGO PA MAN LIKHAIN ANG MUNDO ay pinili na ang mga binabanggit na Kristyano ni Apostol Pablo, maaaring itanong kasi ng ilan, oo nga ano, ibig sabihin kaya nitoy meron din silang pre-existence kung tatanggapin namin na may pre-existence si Kristo dahil sa nakasaad sa John 17:5?

Ituloy natin ang pagbasa sa nasabing libro:

New International Version (©1984)
he predestined us to be adopted as his sons through Jesus Christ, in accordance with his pleasure and will-- 

New Living Translation (©2007)
God decided in advance to adopt us into his own family by bringing us to himself through Jesus Christ. This is what he wanted to do, and it gave him great pleasure.

English Standard Version (©2001)
he predestined us for adoption as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
He predestined us to adoption as sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the kind intention of His will,

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
He predestined us to be adopted through Jesus Christ for Himself, according to His favor and will,

International Standard Version (©2012)
he predestined us for adoption to himself through Jesus the Messiah, according to the pleasure of his will,

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And he has constituted us as children by Yeshua The Messiah, as that is pleasing to his will,

GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Because of his love he had already decided to adopt us through Jesus Christ. He freely chose to do this

King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

American King James Version
Having predestinated us to the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

American Standard Version
having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Douay-Rheims Bible
Who hath predestinated us unto the adoption of children through Jesus Christ unto himself: according to the purpose of his will:

Darby Bible Translation
having marked us out beforehand for adoption through Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

English Revised Version
having foreordained us unto adoption as sons through Jesus Christ unto himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Webster's Bible Translation
Having predestinated us to the adoption of children to himself by Jesus Christ, according to the good pleasure of his will,

Weymouth New Testament
For He pre-destined us to be adopted by Himself as sons through Jesus Christ--such being His gracious will and pleasure--

World English Bible
having predestined us for adoption as children through Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his desire,

Young's Literal Translation having foreordained us to the adoption of sons through Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will,

Eph. 1:5 source: bible.cc

Ang galing naman, hindi lang pala si Kristo ang prini-destine at finoreordain, sila rin pala!

Oh sige, ang John 17 naman ang balikan natin, nahiya naman kasi ako sa AKUSA ng nagkomento sa blog ko, na PUMIPILI LANG DAW NG VERSE ang INC PARA LANG UMAYON ITO SA DOKTRINA NAMIN. Eto buong chapter pa ipopost ko basahin natin:

 After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:

“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you. 2 For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. 3 Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent. 4 I have brought you glory on earth by finishing the work you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began.

Jesus Prays for His Disciples 

6 “I have revealed you to those whom you gave me out of the world. They were yours; you gave them to me and they have obeyed your word. 7 Now they know that everything you have given me comes from you. 8 For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me. 9 I pray for them. I am not praying for the world, but for those you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All I have is yours, and all you have is mine. And glory has come to me through them. 11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of[b] your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I protected them and kept them safe by[c] that name you gave me. None has been lost except the one doomed to destruction so that Scripture would be fulfilled.

13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world. 15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[d] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.  

Jesus Prays for All Believers 

20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

25 “Righteous Father, though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. 26 I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.”

source: biblegateway.com

ASAN DIYAN ANG SINASABING DIYOS SI KRISTO?

ASAN DYAN ANG SINASABING MERONG PRE-EXISTENCE SI KRISTO?

Meron ba?

Sino ba ang NAG-IISA (ibig sabihin, isa lang talaga walang pangalawa at walang pangatlo) at TUNAY (ibig sabihin hindi peke) na IPINAKILALA NI KRISTO para magkaroon ang tao ng BUHAY NA WALANG HANGGAN?

"After Jesus said this, he looked toward heaven and prayed:“Father, the hour has come. Glorify your Son, that your Son may glorify you.  For you granted him authority over all people that he might give eternal life to all those you have given him. Now this is eternal life: that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom you have sent." John 1:1-3

Ayan po, malinaw na malinaw, walang labis walang kulang, walang pansariling interpretasyon...

Nasa inyong mga mata na ang kasagutan, hindi ko na po problema yon kung ipagpipilitan nyo pa rin na Diyos si Kristo at may pre-existence siya, ganun po talaga, at wala na akong magagawa kung ayaw nyo sa katotohanan. Ang magagawa lang namin ay minsan pang akayin kayong makapakinig ng mga doktrina sa Iglesia ni Cristo, wala namang sapilitan ito dahil ang kaligtasan ay hindi naman sapilitan, YUNG MGA MAY GUSTO LANG.

Religious intolerance sa TV?

May nabasa ako ngayon sa internet tungkol sa mga ministro sa Iglesia ni Cristo, sa kanilang pangangaral sa telebisyon, eto po:

"Do Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) TV preachers realize that they humiliate and insult Catholics with their full-blast demolition job, by interpreting and inferring “falsehoods” of many principal Catholic beliefs and practices? (This is done without the full benefit of explanations and clarifications by a competent Catholic authority present). 

Why are the INC TV preachers obsessed with anti-Catholic talk day in, day out? 

Is the destruction of Catholicism an integral part of INC evangelization to promote INC membership growth, INC members’ righteousness and exclusive salvation? 

Can’t the INC preachers sermonize their sola scriptura beliefs for their own exclusive holiness and spirituality, without having to defame Catholics? 

Is the intent of the INC the proclamation and recognition of the INC (established by the patriarch of the Manalo family in 1914) as the only sacred, righteous, invincible and infallible church to the eternal damnation of all other Christian religions? 

Don’t INC TV anti-Catholic diatribes render obsolete Jesus Christ’s sermon on the mount; e.g. “Blessed are the peacemaker… the merciful… those who suffer for righteousness sake”?

Why do INC TV preachers disregard the constitutional provisions that different religious beliefs must be respected and tolerated? 

Granted that INC TV preachers talk in eloquent Tagalog and do not fulminate, still their trajectory of insult and humiliation is obvious. And they say the greatest commandment is love? 

Perhaps it’s time for INC leaders to undergo soul searching to reconsider their uncharitable treatment of Catholics on TV. The crying need in our country is for all segments of society to work in a concentrated effort for peace and unity. The same is true in our globalized world bedeviled by wars of aggression and terrorism traceable to religious fanaticism.
 
Interfaith dialogue
Ex-British Prime Minister Tony Blair, who got involved in the immoral Iraq invasion, understood the role of religion in solving racial and cultural conflicts during the pacification process. He organized the Tony Blair Foundation “to rescue faith from irrelevance caused by widespread secularism and bloodstain secularism.” The foundation aims to activate interfaith dialogue and communal action using multi-denominational networks of churches and its capabilities as service points. 

Last October, Pope Benedict XVI joined Buddhist monks, Islamic scholars, Hindus and some agnostics in making a communal call for peace insisting “that religion must never be used as a pretext for war on terrorism.” 

During the event Buddhist monks, priests and patriarchs committed themselves to working for dialogue, justice and peace for a more equitable and friendly world. 

On Nov. 12, 2011 at the Vatican City, a delegation of Muslim, Christian, Jewish and Druse religious leaders in Israel met with Pope Benedict XVI in a well-publicized effort to promote interfaith and peace initiatives in the region. 

Pope Benedict XVI has long been promoting interfaith dialogue. He urged the council of religious leaders gathered in Rome to continue working together to “foster a climate of trust and dialogue among all leaders in the region.” 

The principles on ecumenism admonish Catholic priests and lay leaders to have frequent prayers of unity as the soul of “spiritual ecumenism, and that this prayer of unity is reflective of the prayer, that they may all be one.” 

The use of TV by Catholics in the Philippines is confined to telecasts of masses on Sundays and other feasts. The purpose is to allow the sick and those who are confined in homes, hospitals and safe houses to participate in the rituals of the mass. 

Catholic priests as a rule use the pulpit for the sole purpose of illuminating the lessons in the gospel, out of respect for the spirit of ecumenism. 

Many Catholics have observed that INC members in their neighborhood or workplace are friendly, industrious, unassuming, non-confrontational and peaceful persons.

Perhaps the INC TV preachers can change their acts to adopt a more humble and charitable style. The world will be a better place if all religious leaders have the humility and generosity to honor the spirit of ecumenism rather than harbor doctrinal enmity. 

Jesus Christ taught us to pray by addressing God as “Our Father who art in heaven…” Isn’t this a clear advocacy that we must all live in harmony and solidarity as children of God? C’mon, pinagpipitaganan naming kapatid, Eduardo Manalo, please request your TV preachers to stop rocking the boat. Aren’t we all brothers in Christ? When it comes to our eternal destiny, we are all in the same boat. 

source: inquirer.net

Etong obserbasyon na ito ay ang matagal ng hinaing ng mga Katoliko, sabi nila, bakit yung mga ministro nyo araw at gabi tinitira ang simbahan namin? Hindi ba pwedeng magfocus na lang kayo sa pangangaral nyo ng sarili nyong doktrina? 

(Ang mga susunod ko pong mga pahayag ay opinyon ko lang as an INC member, bilang pagpapatunay na rin na kahit kailan sa pagboblog ko ay hindi ako bias.)

Dati, nung mabata bata pa ko, sa Pasugo at sa TV, napapansin ko nga ang ganoon, ang pag eexpose ng mga maling doktrina ng Iglesia Katolika, pero para sakin ay okay lang yon kasi para sakin wala namang masama doon.

Pero ngayon, yung medyo naging open minded na ko, yung medyo lumawak na ang aking kaalaman tungkol sa ibat ibang relihiyon pati na sa relihiyon ko ay hindi ko sinasantabi ang sinasabi ng mga Katoliko. I must say, may point naman sila.

Kaya nga pag may mga pagkakataon na nagtuturo ang ministro o guro sa pagsamba ng kabataan tungkol sa mga maling doktrina ng Iglesia Katolika ay parang medyo napapailing ako pag naaalala ko ang tungkol sa sinasabi ng mga Katoliko.

Para sakin, kung may mali man talaga sa mga ministro sa TV ay hindi yung ginagawa nilang pag eexpose ng mga maling doktrina, kundi yung pag memention nila ng pangalan ng relihiyon.

Example:

"Ang Iglesia Katolika ay nagtuturo ng aral ng demonyo na binabanggit sa bibliya"
vs.
"May ibang relihiyon na nagtuturo ng aral ng demonyo na binabanggit sa bibliya"

Malaki ang kaibahan, di ba? Pero kahit nagpaparinig lang, masakit pa rin sa mga myembro na nakakapanood dahil tinatamaan sila, pero kung ikukumpara naman sa pagmemention ng pangalan ng religion, mas okay naman ito.

Napansin ko lang, simula noong maupo si Ka Eduardo Manalo sa pagiging Executive Minister, hindi na ako nakakabasa sa Pasugo ng mga articles tungkol sa pag eexpose ng doctrines and practices ng ibang pananampalataya, kung meron man, sobrang dalang. Ang mga lagi kong nababasa ay tungkol sa mga balita sa pagbili ng INC ng mga properties abroad, sa pastoral visitations niya at iba pa... Maganda itong senyales lalo na sa kapwa ko mga INC na may parehas ding pananaw sakin, at pati na rin sa mga di kaanib na nagsusuri sa INC.

Ano pa? 

Napansin ko rin na ganun ang nangyari sa mga texto na itinuturo sa pagsamba. Dati kasi, may pag eexpose din ng mga maling pananampalataya ng iba o kaya naman ay pagpapaliwanag ukol sa pananampalataya ng INC halimbawa tungkol sa John 1:1 at iba pa. Ang mga texto sa pagsamba ngayon ay tungkol sa moralidad at pagbabagong buhay.

Ano pa?

Ang pagtalakay ng mga maling doktrina ng ibang pananampalataya ay hindi na mapapanood sa kung saan saang programa ng INC, sa programang "Ang pagbubunyag" na lang natin ito naririnig at napapanood.

Napansin nyo rin ba ang mga yon?

Siguro, hindi man ako sigurado, na isusunod na rin ng Ka Eduardo ang paraan ng pag eevangelize sa TV, siguroy alam ng tagapamahalang pangkalahatan ang tungkol sa mga bagay na ito kaya ganoon.

Ako rin, last last year lang, narealize ko dapat sa pagboblog ko ay hindi ako masyadong "hot na hot" dapat cool lang ako palagi kahit na maraming kumakaaway sakin dahil lang Iglesia ni Cristo ako. Siguro ngay panahon na para ibahin na nating mga INC members ang paraan ng pakikiargumento o pakikipagdebate sa mga di kaanib sa mga forums, blogs, websites at iba pa. Siguroy dapat maging sobrang cool lang tayo, wag masyado maging defensive yun bang nagsabi lang ng ganito pero ang reply natin sobra sobra naman, yung ganun^^

Hindi kasi tayo makakapag invite ng mga tao para magsuri sa Iglesia ni Cristo kung ang makikita nila satin ay halimbawa, nagsasabi ng di kaaya ayang salita o kung ano pa man. Yung sa blog ko naman, inaayos ko na paunti unti, ineedit ko na lalo na sa 2014, maraming magsesearch sa Iglesia ni Cristo sa internet, kelangan kong maghanda!^^ Lalo na tayo, dahil para tayong nasa digmaan non, pag nagsulputan na ang mga balita worldwide tungkol sa celebration natin, alam nyo na, ang mga inggit sa INC ay gagawa ng mga dirty tactics para siraan ang INC sa iba...


Paano pala kung sadya yon?

Naisip ko rin, paano pala kung sadya ang ginagawa ng mga ministro sa kanilang pangangaral sa TV? Ang ibig kong sabihin, meron silang malalim na dahilan kung bakit palagiang ineexpose ang mga maling aral ng Iglesia Katolika?

Dapat kasi nating malaman at ikonsider, na ang growth ng INC noong panahon ni Ka Felix ay dahil sa mga religious rallies at debates kung saan laging ineexpose ang mga maling doktrina hindi lang ng Iglesia Katolika kundi na rin ng mga Protestante. Ito ang naging susi ng INC, sa aking obserbasyon, para marami ang maanib at makaalam ng katotohanan.

Kung ganoon naman pala, kung eto pala kumbaga ang style o paraan ng INC, bakit nito babaguhin ang pangangaral sa TV?

Isa pang nakikita kong dahilan, kung sadya man talaga ito, ay dahil na rin sa doktrina ng INC.

Eto ang tinutukoy ko:

"Fear not for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the east, And gather you from the west;  I will say to the north, 'Give them up!' And to the south, 'Do not keep them back!'  Bring My sons from afar. And My daughters from the ends of the earth."  Isa. 43:5-6

Diba ang "north" na binabanggit ayon sa turo ng INC ay ang mga Protestante, at ang "south" naman ay ang Iglesia Katolika?

Ano pa?

"Calling a bird of prey from the east. The man who executes My counsel, from a far country. Indeed I have spoken it; I will also bring it to pass. I have purposed it; I will also do it" Isa. 46:11

Di bat si Ka Felix ang tinutukoy sa hulang ito? Siya ang aagaw ng mga tao sa kamay ng dalawang malaking relihiyon na ito?

Ano pa?

Di bat kaming mga Iglesia ni Cristo ay naniniwala na ang Iglesia Katolika sa pasimula ay ang Iglesia ni Cristo? Ibig sabihin, ang tunay na Iglesiang itinatag ni Kristo noong unang siglo ay Iglesia ni Cristo, ngunit sa paglipas ng maraming taon ay binago nila ang pangalan at tinawag na "Iglesia Katolika".

Kung ganito naman pala, na kaya siguro binabanggit ang pangalan ng Iglesia Katolika at mga Protestante sa pag eexpose ng kanilang mga maling aral ng mga ministro ng Iglesia n i Cristo sa TV ay dahil ay may koneksyon ito sa aming doktrina.

Itatanong ng ilan, bakit lagi nyo na lang "tinitira" ang Iglesia Katolika?

Balikan natin ang aral ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Sa amin kasi, naapostatized ang Iglesia ni Cristo noong unang siglo na kalaunay tinawag na Iglesia Katolika, dahil dito ayon na rin sa propesiya sa bibliya, lilitaw ang Iglesia ni Cristo sa mga wakas ng lupa.

Kung ang Iglesia Katolika pala dati ay siyang Iglesia ni Kristo, na itinayo ni Kristo, hindi ba mabuti kung mapanunumbalik ng mga ministro ang mga tao sa TUNAY NA PANANAMPALATAYA? sa TUNAY NA RELIHIYON?

Ayon na rin sa bibliya:

"Then I heard another voice from heaven say, “Come out of that city, my people, so that you will not share in her sins. Then you will not suffer any of the terrible punishment she will get." Rev. 18:4

Kung ang mga ministro ay sumisigaw (not literal) sa mga Katoliko para umalis sa Iglesia Katolika para di sila masama sa mga kasalanan nito (Stolen Babies, Inquisition, Priests scandals, Friar's abuse of power and etc.) at sa kakaharapin nitong kaparusahan, masama ba yon?

At kung utos din naman sa bibliya ang pag eexpose ng mga maling aral:

"Take no part in the unfruitful works of darkness, but instead expose them." Eph. 5:11

All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work." II ti. 3:16-17

Kung naniniwala kami na mali ang mga itinuturo ng Iglesia Katolika at mga Protestante, ayon sa bibliya, mali ba na iexpose ng mga ministro ang mga iyon?

Kung ang Jehovas witnesses o Church of Jesus Christ the Latter Day Saints ang ieexpose ng madalas, ito ang matatawag na UNFAIR, dahil wala namang koneksyon ang INC dito o hindi naman kasama ang mga ito sa doktrina ng INC kung saan ito ay naapostatized o kung ano pa man, hindi katulad ng Protestante lalo na ng Iglesia Katolika.

Baka matanong din ng ilan, bakit ba kasi ang hilig nyong mag expose ng paniniwala ng iba?

Ayon na rin sa doktrina ng INC, alam ko namang alam nyo rin yon, na naniniwala kami na ITO LANG, at wala ng iba, ang tunay na Iglesiang dapat aniban ng tao. Hindi kami protestante, na kung mapapansin nyo sa LIGHT TV CHANNEL 33, ibat ibang relihiyon nagsasama at hindi sila nagsisiraan o nag eexpose ng kani kanilang paniniwala. Kung wala kaming doktrina na "ONLY TRUE CHURCH" ay wala kaming dahilan para talakayin ang ibat ibang paniniwala. Pero dahil nga sa doktrina namin yon, at bilang pagsunod na rin sa bibliya na iexpose daw ang mga mali sa pamamagitan ng bibliya, masama po ba iyon? 

At dahil nga sa may doktrina kami tungkol sa ONLY TRUE CHURCH, ano po ba ang gusto at ineexpect nyong gawin ng mga ministro ng INC sa TV? Ipromote ang doctrines and practices ng ibang relihiyon? Suportahan ang ibang relihiyon at iencourage ang mga tao na sa kanila umanib?


Bakit naman ang Iglesia ni Cristo lang ang sinasabihan niyo?

Nakakapagtaka naman, dahil kung tutuusin, halos 2 relihiyon lang naman ang madalas na binabanggit ng Iglesia ni Cristo sa mga programa nito, ang Iglesia Katolika at Protestante.

Kung ikukumpara naman sa mga Iglesiang binabanggit sa programa ni Mr. Soriano, halos lahat ng kilalang relihiyon sa Pilipinas at abroad ay tinitira niya sa kaniyang programa DAY AND NIGHT! Paano ba naman, yung programa niyang ITANONG MO KAY SORIANO na recorded at nirereplay na lang eh nag aair kahit gabing gabi na, at umaga rin nagsisimula.

Eh yung D'XMAN nila? programa rin nila EXCLUSIVELY para sa INC? Hindi ba religious intolerance yon? Yung programa ng INC na "Ang mga nag sialis sa samahang Ang Dating Daan" ay matagal nang hindi nag aair, ganun kabuti ang INC, ginawa ito para hindi na lumala ang alitan sa pagitan ng INC at ADD ni Mr. Soriano.

Bakit hindi nyo rin sabihan ang CBCP sa kanilang mga interview tungkol sa RH Bill at pagboto tuwing eleksyon, bakit nila dinadawit ang pangalan ng Iglesia ni Cristo?