Holy Trinity debate in Salinas expected to draw 1,500 to Sherwood Hall

Sixteen years ago, the Rev. Chauncey Killens, then of Watsonville, called for a debate with a Salinas church on a question that's challenged the best religious scholars of the past two millennia:

"Last time, I didn't have all my reference material," Killens said Friday of the 1994 debate held at a Salinas elementary school. "I constantly bothered [the Salinas church about holding another debate], and they gave me a chance again."

Holy-Trinity-debate-in-Salinas-expected-to-draw-500-to-Sherwood-Hall" Is the God described in Judeo-Christian Scripture a single being or three in one?Saturday, the replay will happen between Killens — now with Prunedale's Soul Searching Church of God In Christ — and the Church of Christ/Iglesia Ni Cristo of Salinas.

The two groups split the costs of renting Salinas' Sherwood Hall, where they expect to fill all 1,580 seats.

Killens, better known throughout Central and Northern California for his sign-bearing campaigns against gay marriage and gang violence, will argue that the Bible supports a three-in-one deity. Even if the word "trinity" never actually appears in the text, he said, Jesus and his disciples make claims that show he was God.

Jose Ventillacion, a minister of Iglesia ni Cristo who did not take part in the original debate, will take the opposing view.

"Why is it an important question? Very simple," Iglesia's resident minister, Anthony Brandon, said. "One of the very clear things that's in the Holy Scriptures is that God says we should worship no other God except for him. Are we really worshiping the correct God? Because if not, then our very salvation could be at stake."

Brandon said Ventillacion will rely on both biblical text and other references to show the lack of scriptural support for the idea of a Holy Trinity.

Not about arguing

Still, both Killens and Brandon say the debate is not about arguing. They said they instead see it as an opportunity to share faith and beliefs and allow people to come to their own conclusions.

And for Killens, knowing the true nature of God is not necessarily a matter of life and death, eternal or otherwise.

"The more we understand the Bible clearly," he said, "it'll prevent us from doing stupid things. I don't think God necessarily requires that you need to know all the doctrine. [Jesus] was born to a virgin, he did a ministry, he rose from the dead, he's coming back again. If you believe those things and walk it, too, then you're a Christian."

Source: thecalifornian.com

The EVENT

”Yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live…” I Cor. 8:6. Apostle Paul taught this with full confidence for this is the truth taught by Christ himself (John 17:3, 1). And this truth, that there is only one true God, is what the Church of Christ today firmly upholds and has asserted once again in a debate held at the Sherwood hall in Salinas California on February 27, 2010.

Soul searching Church of God in Christ, a Protestant group in Prundale, California, calle for a debate with the Church of Christ in the local congregation of Salinas, California, putting on the line the Trinitarian belief they espouse. Mr. Chauncey Killens, pastor of the aforementioned group, together with two associates, represented their church. Bro. Jose Ventilation, together with Brothers Robert Pellien and Edward Maranan, represented the Church of Christ. Monterey Country supervisor Simon Salinas acted as the moderator. The event was well attended with the audience numbering around 1,500.

Mr. Killens, in his stand, cited verses that supposedly allude to Christ’s pre existence in order to support his claim that there are three persons in one God, although the same time openly admitting that the doctrine Trinity is nowhere to be found in the Holy Sriptures.

Bro. Ventilation, for his part, emphasized the oneness of God by presenting verses that expressly state this doctrine upheld by the Church. Citing biblical verses, such as the teaching of our Lord Jesus Christ himself (John 17:3,1) he emphasized that knowing the Father as the only one true God—not one of the three persons in one God—will lead to eternal life. He ended his speech by inviting Killens and his followers to join instead the true Church of Christ which upholds this truth and be among those and be among those who will receive God’s grace of salvation and eternal life. -->

Source: Pasugo:God's Message May 2010
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Chauncey Killens debated years ago with the Church of Christ but lost. And then he called abother debate to challenge again the Church of Christ regarding the central belief of most christian religions, the Trinity.
But AGAIN LOST IN THE DEBATE! No one can stand especially defending false doctrines! See how God guide Bro. Ventilation on every debate he attended.

Menorrah

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Napanood ko ang debate sa Salinas, California about Trinity. It's between Bro. Joe Ventilacion and Pastor Killens.

All I can say, the Trinity falls again....

Menorrah

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Originally Posted by wing_commander Wanna try Dr. James White?

Ask him to send a letter of proposition to the Iglesia ni Cristo Central Administration.

Pastor Killens was very happy to get a second chance. He admitted he lose in the first round. And waited for 17 years trying to get even. He lose twice instead.

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