Naisip ko, may point naman sila. Pero nag isip ako ng mas malalim, dahil hindi naman ako yung taong bigla na lang naniniwala sa mga nababasa at naririnig ko, inanalize ko...
Ayon na rin sa bibliya, ang tao ay binubuo ng katawan, espirito at kaluluwa:
"May the God of peace himself make you holy in every way. And may your whole being—spirit, soul, and body—remain blameless when our Lord Jesus, the Messiah, appears." 1 Thess 5:23
Kapag ang isa sa mga bumubuo sa tao ay wala o nawala, hindi maaaring mabuhay ang tao, halimbawa may katawan at espirito nga siya wala namang kaluluwa, wala rin yun:
"So, considering that Soul means breath - no, you could not exist on Earth, or anywhere else for that matter, for very long." "Without these forces of life, no, no-one could exist on earth. So you can't exist without a spirit again."
source: answerbag.com
Eh paano kung mawawala ang isa sa mga persona ng kanilang Diyos, magiging DIYOS pa ba ang kanilang DIYOS?
Nung ipinako si Kristo, ano ang nangyari sa kaniya? Di bat namatay? 2/3 days siyang namatay ngunit nabuhay naman siyang mag uli. Tanong, paano kaya nag exist ang kanilang Diyos nung mga panahong namatay o nawala ang isa sa mga persona na bumubuo dito?
Eh kung hiwa hiwalay ang bumubuo sa kanilang Diyos, magiging Diyos pa rin kaya ang kanilang Diyos?
"As soon as Jesus was baptized, he came up out of the water. Then heaven opened, and he saw God’s Spirit coming down on him like a dove. And a voice from heaven said, “This is my Son, whom I love, and I am very pleased with him.” Matthew 3:16-17
Kung ating iintindihin ang mga verses, may tatlong binabanggit dito: si Kristo, ang Ama, at ang espirito ng Diyos o ang espirito santo. Ang Ama ay nasa LANGIT, ang espirito santo naman BUMABABA GALING SA LANGIT at si Kristo naman nasa LUPA, especificaly nasa ilog ng Jordan dahil kakabautismo lang sa kaniya ni Juan Bautista (baka may pilosopo kasi dyan^^) Tanong, paano kaya nag exist ang kanilang Diyos gayong hiwa hiwalay ang kaniyang persona?
Paano kaya mag eexist ang tao kung nakahiwalay ang katawan sa espirito at kaluluwa? Paano kaya mabubuo ang masarap na kape kung magkakahiwalay ang creamer, kape at asukal?
Nagets nyo ba ang punto ko?
Ngayon, ang tanong, eto bang Diyos na may tatlong persona ang sinamba ng mga Hudyo sa OLD TESTAMENT? Eto bang Diyos na may tatlong persona ang ang Diyos ni Kristo? Eto bang Diyos na may tatlong persona ang Diyos na ipinangaral ng mga Apostol?
Kung ang sagot ay hindi, saan naman kaya napulot o nakopya ng mga nag imbento ng Trinity doctrine ang aral na ito?
Ano sa tingin niyo?
Ito kaya ay galing sa concept ng Trimurti ng mga Hindu?
The Trimurti (English: ‘three forms’; Sanskrit: त्रिमूर्तिः trimūrti) is a concept in Hinduism "in which the cosmic functions of creation, maintenance, and destruction are personified by the forms of Brahmā the creator, Vishnu the maintainer or preserver and Śhiva the destroyer or transformer," These three deities have been called "the Hindu triad" or the "Great Trinity", often addressed as "Brahma-Vishnu-Maheshwara."
source: wikipedia
Kung hindi sa Trimurti, saan kaya sa mga ito?
Three-headed deitiesFurther information: Polycephaly
- In Hindu mythology, Trisiras and Dattatreya are explicitly tricephalous deities, but other instances of three-headedness are also found in Hindu iconography, for example in depictions of goddess Durga.
- The smaller Gallehus horn has a three-headed figure, holding an axe in its right hand and a rope tethered to the leg of a horned animal in the left.
- The hound Cerberus in Greek mythology is often depicted with three heads.
- Geryon has been depicted as three-headed on the Herculean Sarcophagus of Genzano currently held at the British Museum.[34]
List of triple deities
Historical polytheism
- The Classical Greek Olympic triad of Zeus (king of the gods), Athena (goddess of war and intellect) and Apollo (god of the sun, culture and music)[36][37]
- The Delian chief triad of Leto (mother), Artemis (daughter) and Apollo (son)[38][39] and second Delian triad of Athena, Zeus and Hera[40]
- The Olympian demiurgic triad in platonic philosophy, made up of Zeus (considered the Zeus [king of the gods] of the Heavens), Poseidon (Zeus of the seas) and Pluto (mythology)/Hades (Zeus of the underworld), all considered in the end to be a monad and the same Zeus, and the Titanic demiurgic triad of Helios (sun when in the sky), Apollo (sun seen in our world) and Dionysus (god of mysteries, "sun" of the underworld) (as can be seen on Plato's Phaed on the myth Dionysus and the Titans)[41]
- In ancient Egypt there were many triads:
- Osiris (husband), Isis (wife), and Horus (son),[42]
- the Theban triad of Amun, Mut and Khonsu
- the Memphite triad of Ptah, Sekhmet and Nefertem
- the Elephantine triad of Khnum (god of the source of the Nile river), Satet (the personification of the floods of the Nile river), and Anuket (the Goddess of the nile river).
- the sungod Ra, whose form in the morning was Kheper, at noon Re-Horakhty and in the evening Atum, and many others.[43]
- The Hellenistic Egypt triad of Isis, Alexandrian Serapis and Harpocrates (a Hellenized version of the already referred Isis-Osiris-Horus triad), though in the early Ptolemaic period Serapis, Isis and Apollo (who was though sometimes identified with Horus) were preferred[44]
- The Roman Capitoline Triad of Jupiter (father), Juno (wife), and Minerva (daughter)
- The Roman pleibian triad of Ceres, Liber Pater and Libera (or its Greek counterpart with Demeter, Dionysos and Kore)
- The Julian triads of the early Roman Principate:
- Venus Genetrix, Divus Iulius, and Clementia Caesaris
- Divus Iulius, Divi filius and Genius Augusti
- Eastern variants of the Julian triad, e.g. in Asia Minor: Dea Roma, Divus Iulius and Genius Augusti (or Divi filius)
- The Matres (Deae Matres/Dea Matrona) in Roman mythology
- The Fates, Moirai or Furies in Greek and Roman mythology: Clotho or Nona the Spinner, Lachesis or Decima the Weaver, and Atropos or Morta the Cutter of the Threads of Life. One's Lifeline was Spun by Clotho, Woven into the tapestry of Life by Lachesis, and the thread Cut by Atropos.
- The Hooded Spirits or Genii Cucullati in Gallo-Roman times
- The main supranational triad of the ancient Lusitanian mythology and religion and Portuguese neo-pagans made up of the couple Arentia and Arentius and Quangeius and Trebaruna, followed by a minor Gallaecian-Lusitanian triad of Bandua (under many natures), Nabia and Reve female nature: Reva[45]
- The sisters Uksáhkká, Juksáhkká and Sáhráhkká in Sámi mythology.
- The triad of Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat in the time of Mohammed (Holy Qu'ran (Abdullah Yusuf Ali translation), Surah 53:19-22)
- Lugus (Esus, Toutatis and Taranis) in Celtic mythology
- Odin, Vili and Ve in Norse mythology
- The Norns in Norse mythology
- The Triglav in Slavic mythology
- Perkūnas (god of heaven), Patrimpas (god of earth) and Pikuolis (god of death) in Prussian mythology
- The Zorya or Auroras in Slavic mythology
- The Charites or Graces in Greek mythology
- The One, the Thought (or Intellect) and the Soul in Neoplatonism
Eastern religions
- Lord Dattatreya
- The Saha Realm Trinity in Mahayana Buddhism (Shakyamuni, Avalokitesvara and Ksitigarbha)
- Brahma, Vishnu, and Shiva (Trimurti) in Puranic Hinduism
- Mitra, Indra, and Varuna in early vedic Hinduism
- Shakti, Lakshmi, and Saraswati (Tridevi) in Puranic Hinduism
- The Three Pure Ones in Taoism
- The Fu Lu Shou in Taoism
- Ayyavazhi Trinity
New religious movements
- The Triple Goddess in Wicca
- Nuit, Hadit and Ra Hoor Khuit in the Thelemic spiritual system
source: wikipedia
Napakadami pa lang pagpipilian, at kung mapapansin natin, lahat ng relihiyon pala na may pinaniniwalaang Diyos na 3 in 1 o 3 Diyos ay mga PAGANO, bago pa pala mag exist ang Kristiyanismo ay marami nang mga 3 in 1 o 3 na mga Diyos ang mga tao (na pagano), diba meron ding ganyan sa Kristyanismo? Diyos Ama, Diyos Anak at Diyos Espirito Santo.
Baka naman sabihin ng ilan, WALA SA MGA YAN, IMPOSSIBLE YAN, MALABO YAN!
Talaga?
O sige, pagbigyan na natin, sabihin na nating wala diyan sa napakaraming choices ng origin ng trinity na yan, ano kaya ang pinaka possibleng PINAGMULAN ng imbentong aral na ito?
Sagot: Hellenization.
Ano ang Hellenization?
"Hellenization (or Hellenisation) is the historical spread of ancient Greek culture or Hellenistic civilization, and, to a lesser extent, language, over foreign peoples conquered by Greece or in its sphere of influence, particularly during the Hellenistic period following the campaigns of Alexander the Great of Macedon. The result of Hellenization was that elements of Greek origin combined in various forms and degrees with local elements."
source: wikipedia
Ilan ba ang Diyos ng mga Griyego?
Naku, alam na natin ang sagot dyan! Napakadami! Sila bay PAGANO RIN? OO naman!
Ano naman ang kinalaman ng Hellenization sa pag imbento ng Trinity doctrine?
"Hellenistic thinkers, who influenced Christian theologians, had already been attracted by the emphasis in later Judaism on monotheism and transcendence. this tendency was sketched out earlier in Plato and later Stoicism, but it came to its mature development in Neoplatonism in the 3rd centuryA.D. In the first century Philo of Alexandria had interpreted the old testament concept of God in terms of the logos idea of Hellenistic philosophy, but this Hellenization led to a characteristic tension that was to dominate the entire further history of ideas." Encyclopedia
"During the 19th century, protestant historians, notably F.C Baur and Adolf von Harnack, sought to show that the Trinity was a result of "Hellenization of the gospel" while Friedrich Schleiermacher declared that a species of modalism was the only meaningful version of the doctrine. " Encyclopedia
"Initially, both the requirements of the monotheism inherited from the Old Testament and the implications of the need to interpret biblical teaching to Greco-Roman paganism seemed to demand that the divine Christ as the Word or Logos be seen as subordinate to the Supreme Deity. An alternate solution was to interpret the Father, Son and Holy Spirit as three modes of the self-disclosure one God, but not as distinct within the being of God itself." Encyclopedia
“It was when Christianity spread out into pagan world that the idea of Jesus as a savior God emerged.” The meaning of the dead Sea scrolls
Ibalik natin ang tanong kanina, ano ba ang Diyos na sinasamba ng mga Hudyo dati at magpa hanggang ngayon?
The conception of God in Judaism is strictly monotheistic. God is an absolute one indivisible incomparable being who is the ultimate cause of all existence. Jewish tradition teaches that the true aspect of God is incomprehensible and unknowable, and that it is only God's revealed aspect that brought the universe into existence, and interacts with mankind and the world. In Judaism, the one God of Israel is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, who is the guide of the world, delivered Israel from slavery in Egypt, and gave them the 613 Mitzvot at Mount Sinai as described in the Torah. He also gave the Seven Laws of Noah to all human-kind.
source: wikipedia
Kung ang kinikilalang Diyos ng mga Hudyo ay hindi lang basta isa kundi IISA LANG at ito nga ay ang AMA, bakit hindi sila sinaway ng Diyos at bakit hindi man lang itinuro ng Diyos kay Abraham, Isaac at Jacob na siya ay hindi IISA LANG kundi may tatlong persona?
Bakit sinasabi lagi sa kanila ng Diyos na walang ibang Diyos maliban sa kaniya at wala siyang nakikilalang ibang Diyos?
“I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God I will gird you, though you have not known Me; That men may know from the rising to the setting of the sun That there is no one besides Me. I am the LORD, and there is no other,” Isa. 45:5-6
“Remember the former things long past, For I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me,” Isa. 46:9
“You are My witnesses," declares the LORD," And My servant whom I have chosen, So that you may know and believe Me And understand that I am He Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me.” Isa. 43:10
“Declare and set forth your case; Indeed, let them consult together Who has announced this from of old? Who has long since declared it? Is it not I, the LORD? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me.” Isa. 45:21
Eh di ba sabi nila, nag eexist na si Kristo kasama ng Diyos pati ng Holy Spirit simula pa noong lalangin ang mundo? Eh bakit hindi man lang sinabi ng Diyos na meron din Diyos Anak at Diyos Espirito Santo para naman naging TAMA man kung saka sakali ang paniniwala nila Abraham at ang mga hudyo tungkol sa TUNAY NA DIYOS? Bakit naman kineklaim ng Diyos Ama na SIYA LANG ANG DIYOS AT WALA NG IBA?
Sabi pa niya, " Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me." eh paano na si Kristo at ang Espirito Santo, akala ko ba silay mga Diyos din?
At bakit ba kasi hindi tinuro ni Kristo ang tungkol sa Trinity? Bakit niya sinabi na siyay ANAK NG DIYOS at hindi DIYOS na isa sa mga persona ng Trinity? Bakit niya sinabi na IISA LAMANG ANG DIYOS, at itoy walang iba kundi ang AMA na nasa langit? Bakit si Kristo na Diyos daw ay may Diyos din?
Sana, itong mga tanong na ito ay makatulong sa pagbukas ng inyong isipan at makatulong sa pagsusuri sa tunay na mga aral na nasa bibliya. Hangad ko na mahanap nyo ang katotohanan lalot napakahalaga na ALAM NATIN at KILALA NATIN ang sinasamba nating Diyos at kung sino ang TUNAY na DIYOS, baka hindi natin alam na ang Diyos palang sinasamba, at kinikilala natin ay MALING DIYOS, nakikitulad tayo sa mga pagano na MARAMI at may IBAT IBANG MGA DIYOS.
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
ReplyDeleteJohn 10:30 I and the Father are one.
John 20:28 Thomas said to him (Jesus), “My Lord and my God!”
John 14:16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Helper (Holy Spirit), to be with you forever, 17 even the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees him nor knows him. You know him, for he dwells with you and will be in you. 18 “I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.
1 Samuel 16:13 Then Samuel took the horn of oil and anointed him in the midst of his brothers. And the Spirit of the LORD rushed upon David from that day forward. And Samuel rose up and went to Ramah.
iisa lang talaga ang Diyos at wala nang iba pa. pero may tanong Po ako tungkol sa banal na araw na nakasulat sa sampung utos ng Diyos? totoo bang para kang sa mga hudyo ang sabbath?kung magkagayon anong araw naman ang para sa mga kristyano na naniniwalang ang Diyos ay nag iisa lamang?ano ang pinagkaiba ng paniniwala natin sa mga hudyo at bakit di natin sinunod ang banal na araw ng pagsamba sa Ama ang araw ng sabbath. o sabado?
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