Tawa pala ang taktika sa debate ng CFD President ng Davao City

Yan ang Part3 ng debate ng Catholic Church: CFD President ng Davao City Mr. Ryan Mejillano at Iglesia ni Cristo: Ministro ng lokal ng Mintal, Davao City Ka Julius Cutin. Edited yung buong video ng debate para PUMABOR ang mga manonood ng youtube sa kanila, ang galing diba?

Kaya inupload ko yung video kasama ang comment ko sa ginagawa nila. Kung napansin ninyo, puro TAWA ang ginawa ng walang manners na CFD, hindi lang CFD, kundi PRESIDENTE ng CFD Davao chapter, wow. hehehe

Eto ang Edited videos nila, sa nangyaring debate sa Elenita Heights, Davao City noong June 12, 2012:

Part 1

Part 2

Part 3
nasa taas


Part 4

Part 5

Kayo na ang humusga. Nakita nyo ba kung gaano kadisiplinado ang mga katoliko sa likod ng humahawak ng camera? At kung ano ang dalawang nakakahiyang taktika nila sa debate? Ano nga ba?

Ang TAWA at ang "NEXT QUESTION" hehehe

Ganun pala makapagdebate ang presidente ng CFD, wow, amazing. Makikita nyo kung paano kinakaya-kaya ng CFD ang ministro ng INC, na para bang ginaganun ganun lang, pero nakita nyo kung paano sumagot ang ministro ng INC, mula sa bibliya! Yung CFD galing sa mga xerox at scratch paper yung sagot nila eh, nagpakita pa ng PASUGO kung saan may rebulto ang Ka Felix.

Dyan natin nakikita kung gaano sila KAHINA umintindi. Wala namang doktrina sa INC na bawal LAHAT ng uri at klase ng rebulto o imahen, ang bawal sa bibliya (hindi imbento ng mga ministro) eh yung imahen at rebulto na pinapasan, pinuprusisyon, dinadalanginan, inaalayan ng kandila, bulaklak at mga alay na pagkain at kung ano ano pa, nagpapakita ng pagsamba o excessive adoration at ginagawang tagapamagitan sa Dyos.

Ang rebulto ni Ka Felix ay katulad ng NORMAL at ORDINARYONG rebulto ni Rizal at iba pa, ginawa upang ALALAHANIN lamang, yun lang ang purpose ng rebulto, hindi ito ginawa upang sambahin at dasalan at ihilera sa altar kasama ang kinikilala nilang Dyos.

Pero sa kabuuan ng debate, natutuwa ako dahil etong si Mr. Ryan eh hindi katulad ng Paring si Abe na may blog na "The Splendor of the church" at si Catholicdefender2000 na ang babastos ng bunganga na parang di nakapag aral. Sport tong si Mr. Ryan kahit na ang ginawa nya sa buong debate eh tumawa ng tumawa, atlis nakikipagkamay sya at may paggalang sya sa ministro at sa Iglesia ni Cristo kahit papaano, hindi nya sinasabing Iglesia ni Manalo o kung ano pa man.

Are we anti-Catholics and anti-Protestants?

Many says the Iglesia ni Cristo loves to attack other religion, they also call the church an "anti-Catholic and anti-Protestant movement". They think we hate Catholics and Protestants, they say the church is UNFAIR because the INC believe they are the only ones to saved and all are already destined or automatically will be in hell except INC members.

Are all these things TRUE?

FACT: NO. We dont hate Catholics and Protestants as individuals, we dont hate them just because they are affiliated with the Catholic Church and Protestant sects and denominations. The INC dont "attack" these churches, we are CORRECTING THEM using true infos, not like what they are doing to the INC. We believe we are in the TRUE CHURCH OF CHRIST, which Christ promised to be saved, but we dont have any doctrine that all nonmembers and all that did not became INC members will be automatically be in hell.



Let us finally know what we really believe and not by believing to misconceptions and wrong understandings of INC doctrines and teachings.

Here is the quoted statement from the pasugo magazine of the Iglesia ni Cristo unsurprisingly by MCGI of Mr. Soriano, jealous nonmembers spread it here in the internet to show to all the people that INC hates Catholics and Protestants:

English translation: "So at the end of this publication, we now ought to reject the catholic priests and the protestant pastors, for they are ministers of satan. We also ought to reject the Catholic Church and the different protestant churches, for they are not of God, but of satan or the devil " [INC publication Pasugo, August 1961, p. 39]."

This is the alleged PROOF that INC ministers teaches their members to HATE the Catholics and Protestants, which ARE NOT TRUE. They misinterpret what the author in the Pasugo Magazine wants to say to its readers. The minister said "they are not of God, but of satan or the devil", it is clear the author said they are OF THE DEVIL, and not THEY ARE DEVILS.


Question: Why the author said that? Is it intended to hurt the feelings of Catholics and Protestants? Is it for them to also hate us because they think that WE HATE them? Is it for us to have enemies?

ANSWER: NO. The minister have said that to express our beliefs, that we are to disagree that the Catholic Church and Protestant sects and denominations are teaching the whole truth, and that they lead their members on violating God's commandments. It is the very reason why the author have said those statements because he had already presented PROOFS why do we need to "reject" Catholic priests and Protestant pastors--> because they teach FALSE DOCTRINES AND TEACHINGS which are truly not OF GOD. When they teach UNBIBLICAL whatsoever, meaning those are NOT OF GOD and if they wanted you to do and believe were contrary to God's commandments, they are truly OF SATAN.

That's the interpretation of the statements came from the Pasugo, the minister did not said those to promote hatred, he did not said it because he wanted you to be angry to the INC, he did not said it without valid reasons and he did not said it just because he wanted to.

If it is said that "we now ought to reject the catholic priests and the protestant pastors," it does not LITERALLY mean that we are commanded to hate Catholic priests and protestant pastors as well as Catholics and Protestants, it only means that we should not let ourselves to be INFLUENCED with their false beliefs as what they teach and what they believe are contrary to the BIBLE.

The ministers and we INC members are not AGAINST with Catholics, Catholic priests, protestants and Protestant pastors as individuals or only because they are affiliated with the Catholic Church and Protestant sects/denominations, we are AGAINST to their unbiblical doctrines, teachings and practices.

In fact, without being asked, i really admire Catholic priests because they are good advisers and good speakers, i also have good impression with Protestant pastors because they are good speakers and story tellers. I also observed that active Born Again Christians are so kind and faithful while Jehovas witnesses are diligent when it comes to their evangelical activities. I am not pretending to have good impressions to them, because those are my observations.

INC members' friends are composed of mostly Catholics and Protestants, so if we really hate them we will not have friends who are affiliated with the Catholic Church and Protestant sects/denominations. We are still CHRISTIANS who believe in Christ, but the only problem with us is that we have different beliefs.

The INC DO NOT PROMOTE HATRED TO ANYBODY AND DO NOT TEACHES ITS MEMBERS TO HATE ANYONE. WE ARE NOT NEITHER ANTI-CATHOLICS NOR ANTI-PROTESTANTS. We are anti-unbiblical teachings, we are against false teachings but we are not against to any individuals.

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There are TEACHINGS OF DEMONS, BIBLE said.


The bible had a pronouncement about those people who will follow doctrines of the devil and will follow seducing spirits:

"But the Spirit saith expressly, that in later times some shall fall away from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of demons, through the hypocrisy of men that speak lies, branded in their own conscience as with a hot iron; forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by them that believe and know the truth." I tim. 4:1-3

"Seducing spirits" are those who teaches the doctrines that came from the demons, they forbid others to marry and command them to abstain from meats.

In what church is this fulfilled?

“prohibiting priests to marry” is both discipline and a law upheld by the catholic church (The faith of our Fathers, p.401).

And...

“By the law of abstinence the church forbids us to eat either meat or soups or gravies made from meat, on all Friday’s in the year.” (a handbook of the catholic faith, p. 424)

Yes. It is fulfilled in the Catholic Church which the bible forewarned the people not to follow "doctrines of demons". Are these all prophesied? That the Catholic Church will teach unbiblical teachings and practices? Let us consult the bible:

"BUT ALSO [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction." II pet. 2:1 (Amplified Bible)

The Catholic Church does have heretical doctrines and even denied and disowned their Master, who is our Lord Jesus Christ. They had changed the name of the church which Christ built:

“In 1870, at the Vatican Council, the name ‘Roman Catholic Church’ was proposed, but it was rejected. The bishops assembled unanimously decided upon this official name: ‘The Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church’” (Discourses on the Apsotle’s Creed, Rev. Clement Crock, p. 191)

and taught that the foundation of the Catholic Church is not Christ but Peter which is incorrect:

"This [Jesus] is the Stone which was despised and rejected by you, the builders, but which has become the Head of the corner [the Cornerstone]." Acts 4:11

"For God has already placed Jesus Christ as the one and only foundation, and no other foundation can be laid." 1 Corinthians 3:11

See? Are we wrong if we say the Catholic Church's doctrines are of SATAN? How about the Protestants, are they excluded on those churches who teaches false doctrines?

NO. Protestantism rooted from the Catholic Church when a Catholic Priest named Martin Luther protest against the Catholic Church. Some teachings of different Protestant sects and denominations came from the Catholic Church like the unbiblical doctrine Trinity, and most of their doctrines are invented as each of these churches have different beliefs because of different interpretations of the bible which is also incorrect.

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How about the belief that we are the only group of people who will be saved by Christ? Is it unfair if we say we are the chosen ones? Does that already mean that we believe non INC members will automatically be in hell? Click here for the answer.

Conclusion: Nonmembers should not judge the INC and its members right away, they should not spread lies like we hate non INC members or we are anti-Catholic and anti-Protestants because these are not true and these are just misunderstanding of INC doctrines. We love them but we do not let ourselves to be influenced by their beliefs because we have known the truth.

We are not against everything catholic and everything protestant, like for ex. if the priest teach catholics to do good, we are not AGAINST to it, same with the protestants. What we are against are their false teachings and doctrines, please always remember that.


WE MAYBE ANTI-CATHOLIC DOCTRINES AND ANTI-PROTESTANT DOCTRINES BUT WE ARE NOT AND WILL NEVER BE ANTI-CATHOLICS AND ANTI-PROTESTANTS.

Is it unfair if some companies prefer Iglesia ni Cristo members?

Some nonmembers are complaining about the companies which prefer Iglesia ni Cristo members, and give other benefits like being regular to the work and so on. I just dont understand why they think negatively about it and say its unfair and they will blame the Iglesia ni Cristo instead of those companies.

Let us read the answer in the Pasugo Magazine:


Question: Does your church, in any way, have business ties with companies? Why would they prefer hiring members of your church over nonmembers? Dont you think this practice is unfair to those who do not belong to your church?


Answer: In her attempt to help jobless but qualified members of the Iglesia ni Cristo to find jobs and become productive citizens, the church has put up the JOB PLACEMENT OFFICE (JPO) now operating in the central office compound in Diliman, Quezon City. This office coordinates with the companies that are interested in hiring our brethren into their work force . The brethren, on the other hand, are being informed about these job opportunities.

After careful screening of Job applicants, through the JPO, the church recommends members who qualify for the positions. This ensures the companies the service they desire from those who are accepted in the workplace.

The fact that the members of the Iglesia ni Cristo are known to be truly disciplined and industrious, being guided by biblical teachings on the practice of labor, may probably have contributed greatly to the alleged preference of company personnel managers.

There is no unfairness practiced here as far as the church is concerned. The church merely helps by informing her members about job opportunities and by coordinating with the companies concerned. Members of the church who get recommendation to work also undergo the same series of tests and interviews intended for all job applicants regardless of their religious affiliation.

source: Pasugo Issue July-August 1992


I know nothing that there are jobs from small to big companies, that accept ONLY Iglesia ni Cristo members, and that there are job positions that intended ONLY for Iglesia ni Cristo members. THERE ARE NONE.

They may PREFER INC members but they do not require their employees to be INC members, and being an INC member is not their no.1 QUALIFICATION for the jobs as they still accept applicants who are not members of the church.

Let us face the reality, some companies prefer INC members because the church prohibits its members on joining labor unions, as of biblical matters. Ive shown you the fact because im not bias. But that's not the only advantage they will get from INC members, they are known from being hardworking and does have discipline:

“The members are well-disciplined churchmen and they are exemplary citizens of the nation.”
(Gerald H. Anderson, editor ,Studies in Philippine church history, p. 364)

In the process, the INC was able to maintain its reputation as a group of law abiding, peaceful citizens. God-fearing, reasonable,dependable, hardworking citizens."
("Walking a tight rope", Editorial, The Philippine Star, July 20, 1991)

I am not saying that Catholics and Protestants are not industrious and doesnt have discipline, and i am not saying that ALL INC MEMBERS have discipline and are industrious. Its just that, most people (open minded people) have good impression about INC members.

I just clarify these things because i know some here will react^^

I wonder why nonmembers, mostly Catholic react that way like saying the INC is unfair just because big companies like SM malls prefer INC members. If it should be the way we should think, i think we should also react on how Catholic schools abroad discriminate applicants who are non catholics:

Want a teaching Job? then become a Catholic
The job market is tough right now. I can tell you from experience that finding a teaching job in certain markets is *really* hard right now since many districts are laying people off left and right.
Some teachers in Canada are resorting to extreme tactics to secure a position: They’re pretending to be Catholic:

“I don’t particularly like going (to mass) every Sunday, but if this is what I have to do, then I’ll do it,” said a Toronto-area woman, who didn’t want to be identified.
“I just really want to be in a career. I just want it so badly.”
The teacher said she has also been going to confession regularly and speaking with a priest on a weekly basis in order to receive the documents she needs to apply to the Toronto Catholic District School Board.
She is not Catholic. In fact, she doesn’t consider herself religious.
…
“I know what I believe in. I support abortion. I support gay marriage,” she added.
“I’m going through what I have to go through to get a job. I know it sounds bad.”

My favorite quotation has to be this one:

“I haven’t gone for my, um, what do you call it the bread thing yet… Communion. I’m nervous about it,” she added.

Ah yes, the bread thing…

Under the rules for the Toronto Catholic District School Board, all teaching personnel and others who work directly with children need to be Catholic.

It’s really incredible about Catholic schools. You have to adhere to the faith. (Or pretend to, anyway.) But it’s very telling to me that they don’t say “all teaching personnel… must be certified in the subject area in which they teach.” Because that’s not a necessity at many Catholic schools. It’s part of the reason I’m amazed some parents choose to send their kids to Catholic schools when there are perfectly decent public schools nearby.
As I read the article, I just keep thinking of how desperate for work some of these people have to be. At least where I’m from, Catholic school teachers at some schools make less than half of what a public school teacher makes. You don’t get the same benefits, either.
(Update: I’m told by commenters that in Ontario, Canada, Catholic schoolteachers make as much or more than their public school counterparts. The Catholic schools are also publicly funded and they actually receive more money per student than public schools. That’s pretty messed up…)
Here’s a random hypothetical for you: You’re an atheist teacher who can’t get a job in the public schools (for whatever reason). Would you take a job at a Catholic school if you had the opportunity?
source: patheos.com

Religion should not be a hindrance for anyone who's applying for a job, there might be some events that a particular group of people are preferred to get the job, that's not being unfair, the employers or the companies have their reasons why and we should respect it.

The Iglesia ni Cristo is owned by Bro. Felix Manalo said by a Catholic defender

Catholicdefender2000, a jealous catholic defender is again making lies on his ANTI-INC blog that purpose to show the true colors of Catholic defenders in the Philippines.

He made opinions about my article here entitled "Bro. Felix Manalo is the founder of the Church of Christ? Who said?", he obviously did not showed the whole content of my post because he is afraid of the truth as the lie which he still spreads were answered in the said article. You judge, click here.

See? And his cowardliness to answer my inquiry on him, i will ask this to you again Catholicdefender2000, show us you are a man of TRUTH!

"Why do you call me a minister while i said on my blog that i am just a member? You already recognized me many times as a MEMBER, right? Why do you still keep on making lies?"

Of course he will not answer this question^^

Let us just follow the bible:

"Let them alone; they are blind guides. And if the blind lead the blind, both will fall into a pit.” Matt. 15:14

This Catholic defender is shown to lead his fellow Catholics into a pit. They are all blinds, blind of the TRUTH, they believe the lies which he created.


Lets go back on the topic...

Let us read his post... (Red= my response)

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FACT: The Iglesia ni Cristo® was FOUNDED by FELIX MANALO!

Who said it?

(YOU. IT IS YOU WHO CLAIMED IT.)

JESUS CHRIST said so (Mt. 16:18)

"And so I say to you, you are Peter [not Felix Manalo], and upon this rock I [not Felix Manalo] will build my [not Manalo] church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it."[Christ's original Church will not be re-established!!! Hell shall NOT prevail!]

(Yes. Perfect. Thanks for posting this verse. It is our Lord Jesus Christ, and not Bro. Felix Manalo who built the church!)

PASUGO November 1940, p. 23:

“There is only one who could build a Church worthy for God. Who is He-- Only Jesus Christ. No man-- whether wise or fool, whether small or great-- has the right to build a Church." [FYM is a man, fool, made himself great has no right!]

PASUGO August-September 1964, p. 5, "Ang Katotohanan Tungkol sa INK-1914"

“When was the INK recorded or registered in the Philippines? It was in July 27, 1914. Truly the registration says Brother F. Manalo founded the INK."

(Oh yes. It is Jesus Christ, the only TRUE FOUNDER of the Church of Christ and not Bro. Felix Manalo. Oh yes. Its a FACT that what was written in the incorporation of the church is that Bro. Felix is the founder or the executive minister of the church because the LAW REQUIRES IT.

And it is Bro. Felix Manalo, the instrument of God in re establishing the church in the Far East which is in the prophecy, it is Bro. Felix's responsibility to register the church in the government for law reasons, Christ will not come down here from heaven just to sign the articles of incorporation because the second coming of Christ is in the judgment day.)

PASUGO May 1968, p. 7:

“The true Church of Christ is only one. This is the Church that Christ built. If there are established (founded) churches today that claim to be the Church of Christ too, these are not real but fakes only." [INC founded recently in 1914 is fake-thanks Pasugo!]

FELIX MANALO

"Why, who is Quirino? He is a man just the same as I am. I am not afraid of him. Show fear to no man--that is the best way to defend your rights. Member of MY CHURCH were beaten up..." [Confirmation came right from the mouse of the horse!]

(Wow. An intelligent understanding of statements! or is it "MALIGNING of statements?^^"Sabi ko na sa inyo, mahina talaga yan umintindi! Yan ang ebidensya. hehehe

I am inviting you Catholicdefender2000 to visit MY CHURCH, even just once!^^)

MANILA BULLETIN, May 10, 2007, Birthday of Felix Manalo

We greet Executive Minister Eraño G. Manalo, the Officials and Members of Iglesia Ni Cristo, as they celebrate the 121st birth anniversary of their founder, Felix Y. Manalo."

PHILIPPINE STAR Sept. 02, 2009, By Katherine Adraneda

Manalo was executive minister of the two-million-strong Iglesia ni Cristo (INC, or Church of Christ), founded by Eraño’s father Felix Manalo in 1914.

PHILIPPINE STAR, March 25, 2012, By Sionil Jose

"One notable statement made by Felix Manalo, Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) founder, when I interviewed him in the ‘50s..."

MANILA BULLETIN, July 26, 2011, Editorial

MANILA, Philippines — The first church of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) was established in Punta, Santa Ana, Manila, on July 27, 1914.


Its founder, Brother Felix Y. Manalo, a young man who had been in search of the truth, had drifted from one religious organization to another before he established the Iglesia ni Cristo.

MANCHESTER CONFIDENTIAL, May 1st

"Whether Rylands would have approved of the fanatical and controversial INC is another matter, particularly the claim of founder Felix Manalo that he was the last messenger, sent by God..."

PHILIPPINE INQUIRER, April 21st, 2012, by Rudy M. Viernes

INC has been steadily spreading everywhere since its founding in the Philippines in 1914 by Felix M. Manalo, its Supremo, who died in 1963. It is a large, tightly knit indigenous Christian religious group that counts millions of members nationwide. According to the National Statistics Office in Manila, 2.3 percent of the entire Philippine population of 93 million is an INC affiliate. Its present head is Executive Minister Eduardo V. Manalo, the eldest son of Felix.

SUNSTAR quoted Bienvenido Santiago, INC's Spokesperson, February 28, 2012

“The Iglesia Ni Cristo has been holding such gatherings in various places on a regular basis since the time of its first Executive Minister, Brother Felix Y. Manalo, who established the INC’s first congregation in the Philippines in 1914...” [Santiago, INC's official Spokesperson should have said "Brother Felix Y. Manalo, who RE-established the INC..."]

WOW BATANGAS, Sept. 03, 2009

Ka Erdie was the fifth son of INC founder, Felix Manalo and his second wife Honorata de Guzman.

MANILA BULLETIN, Feb. 27, 2012, by Madel R. Sabater

In a statement, INC spokesman Bienvenido Santiago said, “The Iglesia Ni Cristo has been holding such gatherings in various places on a regular basis since the time of its first Executive Minister, Brother Felix Y. Manalo who established the INC’s first congregation in the Philippines in 1914.”

NEWSFLASH, Sept. 03, 2009

Manalo was executive minister of the two-million-strong Iglesia ni Cristo (INC, or Church of Christ), founded by Eraño’s father Felix Manalo in 1914.

MANILA BULLETIN, Jan. 02, 2012

Born on January 2, 1925, Ka Erdie took over the church on the death on April 12, 1963, of his father INC founder Felix Y. Manalo. The officials and members of the INC looked upon Ka Erdie, who followed the example of his father, as their guiding light and inspiration.

MANILA BULLETIN, July 26, 2011, Editorial

MANILA, Philippines — The first church of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) was established in Punta, Santa Ana, Manila, on July 27, 1914.


Its founder, Brother Felix Y. Manalo, a young man who had been in search of the truth, had drifted from one religious organization to another before he established the Iglesia ni Cristo.

MANILA BULLETIN, Sept. 01, 2009, By Leslie Ann G. Aquino

Born on Jan. 17, 1925, Erano took over the church upon the death in 1963 of his father, INC founder Felix Manalo.

Encyclopedia Britannica, Article: Iglesia ni Kristo (Filipino church)

"...the largest entirely indigenous Christian church in the Philippines. Its members assert that the early Christian church was restored in God’s chosen nation, the Filipinos, when Felix Manalo launched this church in 1914. Rapid growth after 1945 produced some 600,000 members…"

WIKIPEDIA, On Article Felix Manalo

Because there were no precursors to the registered church, external sources and critics of the Iglesia ni Cristo refer to him as the founder of the Iglesia ni Cristo and describe him as such but the official INC doctrines claim otherwise..." [Its members asserts otherwise.]

WORLDIQ, on Article Felix Manalo

Felix Ysagun Manalo is the founder of the Iglesia ni Cristo, a church founded in the Philippines in 1914.

(The MEDIA said the founder of the INC is Bro. Felix Manalo, but the church believes it is our Lord Jesus Christ who founded the Iglesia ni Cristo^^ It is nonmembers who claims the founder was Bro. Felix)

TIMELINE OF CHRISTINITY

1914 Iglesia ni Cristo incorporated in the Philippines

(Based on Isaiah 43:5-6, a prophecy on the bible)

MATTHEW 7:21

“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven..."

MATTHEW 7:20

"So by their fruits you will know them."

2 John 1:7 (Read Deceivers of the Faith

Many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh; such is the deceitful one and the antichrist.

("I am a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God, but you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like that." John 8:40)

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I will quote from my post "Bro. Felix Manalo is the founder of the Church of Christ? Who said?" for you to remember:

MEDIA and nonmembers says Bro. Felix Manalo is the founder of the Iglesia ni Cristo, Church of Christ. While we and the Holy Scriptures says that it is our Lord Jesus Christ is the TRUE founder of the Iglesia ni Cristo, Church of Christ.

Media vs. Bible, who tells the TRUTH?

Again, we never and will not recognize Bro. Felix Manalo as the founder of the Iglesia ni Cristo. It is not US, who says Bro. Felix is the founder but those who are not MEMBERS of the church.

Bro. Felix Manalo owned the Iglesia ni Cristo?

The source of this attack is obviously from the MCGI of Mr. Soriano, they say that this is the proof that the Iglesia ni Cristo is owned by Bro. Felix Manalo and that he admitted it by saying "my church".

Is this true?

That the Iglesia ni Cristo is owned by Bro. Felix?

Or this is just another misunderstanding?


First of all, the Iglesia ni Cristo is owned by our Lord Jesus Christ, he is the one who purchased the church with his own blood and not Bro. Felix Manalo. Again and again i will say this, we dont have and will never have a doctrine that says Bro. Felix Manalo is the founder and the owner of the Iglesia ni Cristo, Church of Christ. We will not change the only true founder of this church, our Lord Jesus Christ.

Proof?


The name of this church is Iglesia ni Cristo, Church of Christ and not Church of Manalo.


Lets continue...

Bro. Felix Manalo did not said "Members of my church which i owned" rather he said "Members of my church", when someone said "my church" does that mean he/she already owned the church?

Is it always literal???


So, if i say, "I invite you to OUR CHURCH in Bulacan for a grand evangelical mission", does that mean WE OWNED our church???

If i say, "Yes, i go to MY CHURCH every sunday!", does that mean i go to my church which i OWNED, every sunday???

If i asked, "Do you go to YOUR CHURCH frequently?", does that mean you frequently go to YOUR CHURCH which you owned???


I think i dont need to elaborate the explanation for this.

Just let our common sense to work!^^

Do we hate those people who are not INC members?

One of the many misconceptions of nonmembers is that we, INC members hate people who are Catholics, protestants and so on because they have different beliefs with us.

They see our ministers in television, radio and in personal debunking their beliefs, but the question is, is this the very proof the WE HATE THEM?

Honest answer. NO.

Why?

Because it is very NORMAL not to agree with other beliefs which is for us, were wrong beliefs. Coming to the point that we debate and argue with them concerning our beliefs, but that is not a very big reason for us to hate them as individuals. What we are against is about their false beliefs, which violates god's commandments and make them attain not salvation but curses from god that is why before there will be regrets, we are educating them the TRUTH which are written in the bible.

We are not selfish that we keep that truth to ourselves, that's the reason why we are continually inviting nonmembers to KNOW the CHURCH DOCTRINES. And if they think that what we believe is wrong then we can do nothing about it, atleast we had the chance to introduce them to the church so that when judgment day comes, they will not blame us for not inviting them to the church... Every member of the church does have the duty to spread the words of god by inviting them, not by means of preaching, and if they accept it or not its not our problem...


About debates and arguments

It is not normal for religions with different beliefs to agree each other, if that will be the case then there should only be ONE CHURCH worldwide, no sects, no denominations, no cults, no other independent churches. The only reason why christian churches multiplied because of DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS of the bible, it is also the reason why the Church of Christ in the 1st century, the church which Christ built, had fallen to apostasy.

If you see a catholic agrees with a protestant out of biblical concern, its normal. But if you see a catholic agrees with a protestant concerning her/his beliefs, then there is a problem.

That's also the same with the Iglesia ni Cristo members, Catholics and Protestants. You can see us ARGUE with our beliefs, but the purpose of that is not to promote hatred and so on, but we do is that we are fixing and solving biblical matters whom someone will benefit for the sake of the truth.


On ministers debunking other religion

Ministers in the INC do not attack Catholics and Protestants personally, and the word "attack" is not the best word to describe what are ministers do in television, radio and in worship services, their objective is not to hurt the feelings of other people but to CORRECT THEIR ERRONEOUS BELIEFS by comparing it to what was written in the bible, only the bible, because:

"Since you were a child you have known the Holy Scriptures which are able to make you wise. And that wisdom leads to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for showing people what is wrong in their lives, for correcting faults, and for teaching how to live right. Using the Scriptures, the person who serves God will be capable, having all that is needed to do every good work." II Tim. 3: 15-17

Apostle Paul recommended to expose their wrong doings instead, and that's whats ministers are doing, not with the intention of hurting their feelings but showing the reality that what they believe are wrong:

"Take no part in and have no fellowship with the fruitless deeds and enterprises of darkness, but instead [let your lives be so in contrast as to] expose and reprove and convict them." Eph. 5:11

Non INC members are already destined to hell?

This is also one of the many misconceptions of non members to the INC, or i can also say that this is one of the many "attacks" on the church, they accuse the INC of having a belief that all non INC members will be automatically be in hell which make us judgmental, as what they say.

I want to make this clear, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF BELIEF, what we believe is that Christ will save his church, the Church of Christ, because he is the savior of the church:

For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Ephesians 5:23

Christ is the head of the church, he is also the savior of the church, it doesnt say he is the savior of all people in the world with different beliefs. This is the proof that the church is NEEDED for SALVATION, not all people in this world are candidates for salvation, the proof is that there are those who will attain salvation and those who will be punished:

“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned." John 5:28-29

It will be unfair to those people who are good if God will save all including those people who done bad. Examples of this is in the time of Noah, we know that God destroyed mankind and saved only 8 people including Noah in the great flood because of wickedness among people. The same happened when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, only Lot and his two daughters were saved. The same with the ancient Israel, selected to be God's nation, they are chosen not because they are many:

“The Lord did not set his love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples.” Deut. 7:7

What does these all mean? Does these mean God is unfair that he did not saved all people but chose what he liked? You know, God is not unfair, in fact, he wanted everyone to be saved:

"God wants everyone to be saved and to fully understand the truth." I tim. 2:4

In the verse above it is said that GOD WANTS or in other words, GOD WISHES everyone to be saved, it did not say, GOD WILL SAVE EVERYONE please let us always remember that. And how can God save all people if they had sinned and did not follow his commandments?

""Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!" Deut. 30:19

It is in our choice and in our works if we will be saved by God or not. Those who had sinned will receive the second death, which will be in the lake of fire, this teaching is not an invention of Manalos' or ministers in the church as what nonmembers alleged, these are written in the bible:

"When people sin, they earn what sin pays—death. But God gives his people a free gift—eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23
"And Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death." Rev. 20:14

How will we be saved? How will we attain the promised salvation? Can we receive it just by believing and not with works? Christ tells us how:

“I am the door; ANYONE WHO COMES INTO THE ‘FOLD’ THROUGH ME SHALL BE SAFE.” John 10:9

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

We should enter Christ for us to be saved by him, he being the savior of the body, and he who purchased the church by his blood:

“Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood” Acts 20:28 Lamsa Translation

How important is it when Christ purchased the church by his blood?

"In Christ we are set free by the blood of his death, and so we have forgiveness of sins..." Eph. 1:7
“Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.” Romans 5:9

If we enter Christ's church, there will be forgiveness of sins. Again, this is the very proof that the CHURCH is indeed NEEDED for SALVATION, and if anyone had heard this good news but did not believe, here is what the bible says:

"When that Man of Evil comes, it will be the work of Satan. He will come with great power, and he will do all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders. The Man of Evil will use every kind of evil to fool those who are lost.

They are lost because they refused to love the truth and be saved. So God will send them something powerful that leads them away from the truth and causes them to believe a lie. They will all be condemned because they did not believe the truth and because they enjoyed doing evil." II Thess. 2:9-12

What will happen to those who are not INC member prior to 1914 and those who are not reached with the evangelical works of the church?

The most asked question of nonmembers, finally, i can now answer this.

Ill make this clear once again, we believe that we are the ones who will be saved by Christ because we are members of his church. We do not believe that while we will be saved, ALL nonmembers will be AUTOMATICALLY be in hell, including those who are not reached by the gospel, and those who lived before 1914, this is just a misunderstanding of INC doctrines.

Now, there is a commandment written in the bible that the gospel will be preached around the world AS A WITNESS to all people, and then the end will come:

"And this good news of the kingdom (the Gospel) will be preached throughout the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then will come the end." Matt. 24:14

The Iglesia ni Cristo, Church of Christ is now in 100 countries and territories and continually spreading around the world. The verse said that the gospel will be preached AS A TESTIMONY TO ALL THE NATIONS, it did not say the gospel will be preached throughout the world and ALL PEOPLE will accept it automatically. So, it is not surprising if there are people who heard about the teachings in the Iglesia ni Cristo but did not accepted and believed.


Lets continue...

What will happen to those who lived before 1914?

"For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law." Romans 2:12

Those who lived with the law and have sinned (time of the 1st Century Church of Christ and the time reestablishment of Church of Christ in 1914 up to present) will be judged by the law, but those who lived without the law and have sinned (time when apostasy of the 1st Century Church of Christ began up to the reestablishment in 1914 or those who lived and have sinned before 1914) will be judged without the law.

Lets understand this well, let us continue reading Romans 2: 13-16 here is what stated:

"For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus."

It is not important that you just know the teachings, what's important is you follow it. Like whats in the verses, even if the gentiles do not have the law, their conscience and their hearts will be their law, meaning, they will be judged by God based on what their heart and conscience dictates. For example, if killing is not prohibited in the bible, you should still not to kill someone because you know it is wrong.

The fate of those who lived before 1914 and those who are not reached with the evangelical works of the church are the same, it is God who will judge them:

"God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you." I Cor. 5:13

So, this teaching, that Christ's church will be saved by him is not an invention of the Manalos or by the ministers in the church, because it is Christ who said that he is way and the life, he is the savior of the church and anyone who is apart from him can do NOTHING:

"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." John 15:5

It is indeed important not just to become an Iglesia ni Cristo member but should also follow and obey the church's doctrines and teachings.

And even you are not an INC member it is not a reason for us to HATE YOU, in fact, we have many friends who are Catholics, protestants, muslims, and so on. It is not true that we believe ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT INC MEMBER WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY BE IN HELL because there is still time, a chance to know the truth, the TRUE GOSPEL which are all written in the bible.

Finally, a catholic defender recognize Christ's church as "Iglesia ni Cristo" part 2

Ayos, inaasahan ko ng kokontrahin ni Catholicdefender2000 ang post ko, at expected ko na rin na kokontrahin nya ito sa pamamagitan ng kasinungalingan, at maling pag-intindi. Eto post nya: "Katotohanang si Felix Manalo ang tumalikod sa iglesiang tatag ni Kristo-ang Iglesia Katolika"

Kasinungalingan:

Heto ang sabi ng nagtatagong Ministro ng INC ni Manalo:

Ano ba talaga? Ministro ba ang tingin mo o myembro lang???

"Happy New Year" greetings from an Iglesia ni Cristo member (readme) at http://readmeinc.blogspot.com/2011/01/happy-new-year.html" source

VS.

"INC Minister "readme" tried to justify the presence of Felix Manalo's statue at their Central Temple in Diliman, Quezon City (Philippines)." source

Makikita talaga sa atin kung sino ang sinungaling at kung sino ang nagsasabi ng totoo...

Mahinang pag-intindi #1:

At hindi lang po buhay na buhay ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA na siyang TUNAY na IGLESIA ni CRISTO noong una sapagkat SINASABIHAN pa nila ang kanilang mga kaanib sa INC ni Manalo na DAPAT daw na ITO RIN ANG KANILANG GAWIN.

PASUGO Hunyo 1940, p. 27:

"Papaano ang pag-aalaga at pag-iingat sa pananampalataya? Wala tayong dapat gawin kundi manatili sa mga aral ng Dios na ating napag-aralan. Ito ang ginawa ng unang Iglesia. Sila'y nanatiling matibay sa aral ng mga Apostol. Ganito rin ang dapat nating gawin."

Bilang katunayan na HINDI nga NATALIKOD ang IGLESIANG ORIG kay CRISTO, heto ang sabi ng PASUGO, Abril 1966, p. 46:

“Ang totoo hanggang sa kasalukuyan ay patuloy na ginagawa ni Satanas ang pagpapasok ng mga maling aral sa Iglesia Katolika na sa pasimula'y siyang Iglesia ni Cristo. Sadyang matalino at tuso ang diablo. Hindi niya ginawang biglaan ang pagtalikod sa Iglesiang itinayo ni Cristo noong unang siglo."

Ano raw?

Sa totoo, "HANGGANG SA KASALUKUYAN..."daw ay patuloy pang pinapasukan ni Satanas ng maling aral daw.... Samakatuwid buhay pa!

Akala ko pa naman ay matalino si Catholicdefender2000, dyan sya nakikitaan ng kahinaan. Mahilig syang tumira pero mali pala ang pag-intindi nya. nakakatawa diba. May gusto lang ako iklaro, ang doktrina ng INC ay ganito,

1. May itinatag na iglesya si Kristo noong unang siglo at tinawag ito sa pangalan nya, "Iglesia ni Cristo"

2. Pagkamatay ng apostol nagsimula ang pagtalikod ng Iglesia noong unang siglo, dahil sa mga pumalit na nagpasok ng mga maling aral at nag imbento ng kung ano-anong bagay. Isa na rito ay ang pagtatakwil kay Kristo bilang "foundation stone", ginawa nilang si Pedro.

3. Pinalitan din nila ang pangalan ng Iglesia itinatag ni Kristo, ang katibayan, nung 1870 lang naging pisyal ang pangalang "One holy Catholic apostolic Roman Church".

4. Dahil sa pagtalikod na nangyari sa unang iglesia, nagkaroon ng propesiya tungkol sa paglitaw ng Iglesia ni Cristo sa Pilipinas.

Iyon ang aming dokrtina. Wala kaming doktrinang naniniwala kami na ang Iglesia katolika ang tunay na Iglesia ni Cristo ngayon. Ang paniniwala namin ay ang Iglesia Katolika ay sa pasimula ay ang Iglesia ni Cristo.

Mahinang pag-intindi #2:

At bago MAGSAYA itong si README na "TINANGGAP" ko raw ang "IGLESIA NI CRISTO" bilang Iglesiang kay Cristo, napansin niyo ba ang sabi ng kanilang PASUGO?

"Hindi niya ginawang biglaan ang pagtalikod sa Iglesiang itinayo ni Cristo noong unang siglo.

Sa makatuwid, TANGGAP na TANGGAP nga nila na ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA nga ay ang IGLESIANG TATAG mismo ni CRISTO.

Heto nga't NAHULI na natin sila sa katotohanang ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA ay siyang TUNAY na IGLESIA ni CRISTO, ating hahanguhin ngayon sa BIBLIA kung ano ang IPINANGAKO ni CRISTO sa kanyang ITINATAG na IGLESIA!

Hindi ko talaga alam kung anong klaseng pag-intindi ang ginagawa ni Catholicdefender, kung matalinong pag intindi o katangahang pag-intindi. Ang post ko nung part 1 ay tungkol sa PANGALAN NG IGLESIANG ITINATAG NI KRISTO na nahuli nating nabago ang kanyang paniniwala dahil nung una ay sinasabi nyang ang pangalan daw ng iglesyang tatag ni Kristo ay Iglesia Katolika, ngunit ngayon ang tawag na nya ay "Iglesia ni Cristo" (capital letters).

Ilang taon na syang nagboblog tungkol sa paninira at kasinungalingan sa INC, hindi pa pala nya alam kung ano ang paniniwala namin! Di ko talaga lubos maisip!^^

sabi nya, tanggap na tanggap daw namin na ang Iglesia Katolika nga ay ang iglesiang tinatag ni Kristo. Sa pasugo na nya nabasa ayaw pa nya maniwala. hahaha nakakatawa talaga itong catholic defender na ito. OO, TANGGAP NA TANGGAP NAMIN NA ANG IGLESIA NI CRISTO NA KALAUNAY TINAWAG NILANG IGLESIA KATOLIKA, ANG TATAG NI KRISTO! TANGGAP NA TANGGAP DIN NAMIN NA NATALIKOD ANG UNANG IGLESIA NA KALAUNAY TINAWAG NA IGLESIA KATOLIKA!

Ngunit hindi namin tanggap na ang Iglesia Katolika ay ang TUNAY NA IGLESIA NI CRISTO, Magkaiba YUN!

Eto tanong ko sayo:

Kelan ba namin DINENY na ang Iglesia ni Cristo noong unang siglo na sa kalaunay tinawag na Iglesia Katolika ay ang Iglesyang itinatag ni Kristo??? Yan na nga nasa pasugo na ayaw pa maniwala.^^

Kasinungalingan sa aral ng INC at Pambabastos sa kanilang "Dyos" na si Kristo:

Pero sa PAGTUTURO ng INC ni Manalo, pinapangaral nilang si CRISTO ay NAGSINUNGALING at HINDI TUMUPAD sa kanyang mga pangako dahil PINABAYAAN niya ang kanyang IGLESIA na maagaw ng HADES at HINDI siya nanatili dahil INAGAW nga naman ng kaaway ang KANYANG IGLESIA.

Kung paniniwalaan natin ang HOKUS-POKUS na turo ng INC ni Manalo, lalabas na si CRISTO ay NAGPABAYA sa loob ng maraming taon at saka lang NAGPAPOGI muli noong 1914. At si FELIX MANALO pa ang nakita niyang magtatatag.

Parang lalabas na si CRISTO ay isang INUTIL na panginoon kaya't kailangan pa niya ng isang FELIX MANALO para "ITATAG MULI" ang kanyang inanay at binukbok na Iglesia?

Kung paniniwalaan natin ang HOKUS-POKUS na turo ng INC ni Manalo, lalabas na SINUNGALING si CRISTO sapagkat NANAIG nga ang kapangyarihan ng Hades sa kanyang tatag na Iglesia.

Pero alam na alam natin na HINDI SINUNGALING si CRISTO. Siya ang DAAN, ang KATOTOHANAN at BUHA (Juan 14:6), kaya lalabas na ang TAGAPAGTATAG ng INC ni MANALO ang siyang saksakan ng KABUKTUTAN at KASINUNGALINGAN.

Lalabas na HINDI tumalikod ang IGLESIANG TATAG ni CRISTO noong una-- ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA kundi si FELIX MANALO ang TUMALIKOD sa IGLESIANG TATAG NI CRISTO.

Sa makatuwid, si FELIX MANALO ang NAGSINUGNALING at si FELIX MANALO ang NANDAYA at si FELIX MANALO ang siyang tumalikod na GANAP sa IGLESIANG TATAG ni CRISTO-- ang IGLESIA KATOLIKA!

Purihin ang Dios sapagkat HINDING-HINDI mananaig ang kapangyarihan ng Hades sa kanyang NAG-IISA, BANAL, PANGKALAHATAN at APOSTOLIKANG IGLESIA ni CRISTO!

At napatunayan natin na si FELIX MANALO ang TUMALIKOD at hindi ang IGLESIA!!!

Tignan nyo ang bunganga ng mga katoliko, ang sinasamba nila at kinikilalang "Dyos" ay sinasabihan ng "inutil, pabaya at sinungaling". Laging ganyan ang taktika ng mga Catholic Defenders locally at internationally, pag hindi sila agree sa paniniwala ng iba, ang sasabihin nila, "E di sinungaling pala si Kristo ng sinabi nyang blah blah blah". Lagi nilang idinadamay ang pangalan ni Kristo sa mga walang kabuluhang bagay, dapat silang parusahan dahil nilabag nila ang sarili nilang "10 utos ng dyos" kung saan sinasabing:

3. You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

Maliwanag na maliwanag ang kawalang paggalang at paggamit ng pangalan ng kanilang Dyos sa pansariling interes. Para lang sa argumento, idadamay mo pangalan ni Kristo at sasabihang "sinungaling, pabaya at inutil"??? Tsk.

Walang dokrtina sa INC na nagsasabing ang ating Panginoong Jesukristo ay sinungaling at hindi tumutupad sa kanyang pangako dahil syay nagpabaya. Siguro sila ang may dokrtina nyan kaya ganyan ang kanilang taktika, pero kahit kailan wala kaming dokrtinang ganyan. Ang mga apostol at si Kristo ay wala na ng matalikod ang Iglesia, ano kaya ang nasa isip ni Catholicdefender2000?

Pababalikin kaya nya ulit si Kristo para lang sawayin ang mga nag imbento ng aral at tumalikod sa mga tunay na aral nya? Samantalang ang 2nd coming of Christ ay sa paghuhukom pa ayon sa bibliya? Ano ba talaga Catholicdefender2000???

Nakasulat na sa bibliya ang magiging pagtalikod ng unang iglesia, itoy hinulaan kaya ngat kinailangan ng kasangkapan upang maitayo uli ang iglesiang natalikod. Magiging pabaya ang Dyos at si Kristo (ayon sa pambibintang ni Catholicdefender2000) kung wala silang gagawin, na natalikod na nga ang iglesia eh hindi pa sila magsusugo, yun ang tunay na nagpabaya (ayon sa bintang ng blogger na katoliko).

Hindi "inutil" ang ating Panginoong Hesukristo (ayon sa depensor katoliko) dahil lang nagsugo ang Dyos ng magtatayo ulit ng tunay na Iglesia ni Cristo, sadyang mali lang talaga ang pagpapakahulugan nila sa mga talata ng bibliya tulad ng sa Mt. 16:18.

Hindi rin totoong hindi natalikod ang unang Iglesia ni Cristo, dahil kung ganun nga, e di sana walang ng Ka Felix at walang mga imbentong aral ngayon sa unang Iglesia ni Cristo na sa kalaunay tinawag na Iglesia Katolika.

Mga Hal. ng imbentong arat at doktrina:

Pre-Roman Catholic False teachings
200 AD	Immersion of infants who are dying, but considered sinless. (Tertullian V.12)
250 AD	North Africa region is first to practice infant baptism and reduced the age of baptism from minors to all newborns. This is opposed by other regions.
257 AD	Baptism by sprinkling for adults instead of immersion first used as an exception for those on sick beds, but it caused great dispute.
300 AD	Prayers for the dead
320 AD	Special dress code of the clergy in worship
325 AD	At the general council of Nice, 325, it was proposed indeed, probably by the Western bishop Hosius, to forbid entirely the marriage of priests; but the motion met with strong opposition, and was rejected.
325 AD	The date for Easter was set.
379 AD	Praying to Mary & Saints. (prayers of Ephraim Syrus)
385 AD	In the West, the first prohibition of clerical marriage, which laid claim to universal ecclesiastical authority, proceeded in 385 from the Roman church in the form of a decretal letter of the bishop Siricius to Himerius, bishop of Tarragona in Spain.
389 AD	Mariolatry begins with Gregory Nazianzen, who mentions in a eulogy, how Justina had besought the virgin Mary to protect her virginity.
400 AD	Impossibility of apostasy or once saved always saved, (Augustine XII.9)
416 AD	Infant baptism by immersion commanded of all infants (Council Of Mela, Austin was the principal director)
430 AD	Exhalation of Virgin Mary: "Mother of God" first applied by the Council of Ephesus
502 AD	Special dress code of the Clergy all the time.
500 AD	The "Habit" of Nuns (Black gowns with white tunics)
519 AD	Lent
526 AD	Extreme Unction
593 AD	The Doctrine of Purgatory popularized from the Apocrypha by Gregory the Great
600 AD	First use of Latin in worship (Gregory I)
Beginning of the Orthodox/Roman Catholic church as we know it today in its present organization.
607 AD	First Pope: Boniface III is the first person to take the title of "universal Bishop" by decree of Emperor Phocas.
608 AD	Pope Boniface IV. turns the Pantheon in Rome into a temple of Mary ad martyres: the pagan Olympus into a Christian heaven of gods.
670 AD	Instrumental music: first organ by Pope Vitalian
709 AD	Kissing of Pope Constantine's feet
753 AD	Baptism by sprinkling for those on sick beds officially accepted.
787 AD	Worship of icons and statue approved (2nd council of Nicea)
787 AD	Rome (Latin) and Constantinople (Greek) part ways and begin the drift towards complete split, resulting in two denominations emerging in 1054 AD.
965 AD	Baptism of bells instituted by Pope John XIII
850 AD	Burning of Holy Candles
995 AD	Canonization of dead saints, first by Pope John XV
998 AD	Good Friday: fish only and the eating-red meat forbidden
1009 AD	Holy water
1022 AD	Penance
1054 AD	Roman Catholic church breaks away from the Orthodox church
1054 AD	Roman Catholics officially embrace instrumental music, Orthodox reject instrumental music down to the present time.
1079 AD	Celibacy enforced for priests, bishops, presbyters (Pope Gregory VII)
1090 AD	Rosary beads: invented by Peter the Hermit
1095 AD	Instrumental music
1190 AD	Sale of Indulgences or "tickets to sin" (punishment of sin removed)
1215 AD	Transubstantiation by Pope Innocent III, Fourth Lateran Council
1215 AD	Auricular Confession of sins to priests instituted by Pope Innocent III, (Lateran Council)
1215 AD	Mass a Sacrifice of Christ
1217 AD	Adoration and Elevation of Host: ie. communion bread (Pope Honrius III)
1230 AD	Ringing bells at Mass
1251 AD	The Scapular, the brown cloak worn by monks invented by Simon Stock
1268 AD	Priestly power of absolution
1311 AD	Baptism by sprinkling accepted as the universal standard instead of immersion for all, not just the sick. (Council of Ravenna)
1414 AD	Laity no longer offered Lord's cup at communion (Council of Constance)
1439 AD	Purgatory a dogma by the Council of Florence (see 593 AD)
1439 AD	Doctrine of Seven Sacraments affirmed
1480 AD	The Inquisition (of Spain)
1495 AD	Papal control of marriage rights
1534 AD	Order of Jesuits founded by Loyola
1545 AD	Man-made tradition of church made equal to Bible (Council of Trent)
1545 AD	Apocryphal books added to Bible (Council of Trent)
1546 AD	Justification by human works of merit
1546 AD	Mass universally said in Latin (see 600 AD)
1547 AD	Confirmation
1560 AD	Personal opinions of Pope Pius IV imposed as the official creed
1864 AD	Syllabus Errorum [Syllabus of Errors] proclaimed that "Catholic countries" could not tolerate other religions, (no freedom of religion), conscience, separation of church and State condemned, asserted the Pope's temporal authority over all civil rulers (Ratified by Pope Pius IX and Vatican Council) condemned
1870 AD	Infallibility of Pope (Vatican council)
1908 AD	All Catholics should be christened into the church
1930 AD	Public Schools condemned by Pope Pius XII (see 1864 AD)
1950 AD	Sinners prayer, invented by Billy Sunday and made popular by Billy Graham. (Some Catholics now use this)
1950 AD	Assumption of the body of the Virgin Mary into heaven shortly after her death. (Pope Pius XII)
1954 AD	Immaculate conception of Mary proclaimed by Pope Pius XII
1995 AD	The use of girls in the traditional alter boy duties
1996 AD	Catholics can believe in Evolution (Pope John Paul II)

source: bible.ca


Kaya Catholicdefender2000, hinding hindi mo na mababawi ang bago mong paniniwala, na tanggap na tanggap mo na ang PANGALAN ng TUNAY NA IGLESIA TINATAG NI KRISTO ay walang iba kundi "IGLESIA NI CRISTO"! Wag mong daanin sa mahinang pag-intindi at kasinungalingan...

Eliseo Soriano's attacks on Islam and Muslims

Muslim's testimonials about Soriano

Former Cong. Jose Mari Gonzales, an audio/video analyst challenge Soriano to go to the NBI with him to test if the videos from the Iglesia ni Cristo which contains his statements on attacking Islam and Muslims were not edited:

Reasons why the Executive Minister should not debate Eliseo Soriano

YOURE THE ONE TO JUDGE.

What do you think will happen if the late Bro. Erano had accepted the challenge of this kind of preacher? The above is the reason why the well respected and beloved Bro. Erano should not debate Soriano.


Another reason,

Observe the fanatic followers of Soriano, while he says weasel words, they are clapping their hands as if they should be glad about it. WOW. He is the only preacher in the whole wide world that does that. A thing that makes this preacher truly NOT-OF-GOD.

Lektura ng Ka Erano Manalo noong 1976

“Ngayon, kung ang isang manggagawa, mga kapatid, sinungaling, hindi puwedeng manindigan. Kung ang isang manggagawa kakampi sa katiwalian, hindi puwedeng manindigan. Kung ang isang manggagawa siya pang nagtuturo ng katiwalian, eh lalong masamang manggagawa ito.

“Wala nang sariling paninindigan ay siya pang kasangkapan ng diablo. Eh sino ho iyang ganyang manggagawa? Maraming manggagawa natin, halos lahat ganyan.

“Hindi ho ba naman isang napakarahas na pagpaparatang iyan? Hindi. Kaya ko nalalaman sapagka't ang mga ulat na dumarating sa amin, hindi totoo. Bakit ho hindi naging totoo?

“Hindi sapagka't ang kapatid ang nagkamali kundi ang mga manggagawa ang siyang bumabago ng ulat para ilihis ang paniniwala ng pangangasiwa.

“Eh iyon ho bang mga tagapamahala nalalaman iyan? Nalalaman iyan ng karamihan. Pero nagkaisa ang mga manggagawa sa loob ng iglesia para linlangin at dayain ang pangangasiwa sa layunin nilang gumanda, kuminis ang bagay na marumi at ang bagay na hindi matuwid.

“Pero napakasama naman na ito palang mga tinustusang ito, ito pala naninira sa iglesia. NAPAKAGAGONG pangangasiwa, na gumagastos ka para sa maninira.

“Pero gusto kong masaktan kayo. Gusto ko na higit pa sa masaktan. Kung maaari ko lang DAGUKAN ang iba ay gagawin ko para maging matindi sa kaniya...

“Yung ibang mga kalihim sa probinsya, talagang wala eh, hindi abot ng kanilang kapasidad. Lalo na sa mga liblib na lugar, papaano makagagawa ng form 'yun?

“Kayong (Eh yong) manggagawa ngayon, inaasahan ko na kapatid, heto, mali ito, bakit ka mag-uulat ng hindi totoo? masama iyan.

“Eh hindi, yung kapatid mag-uulat ng totoo. Baguhin mo iyan! Eh ito ho ang nasa tuntunin. Ah, anong nasa tuntunin?

“Akin na iyan, pag hindi SUSUNTUKIN KITA! Iyan ang manggagawa natin ngayon. “MANLULUPIG! MANINIKIL NG KAPATID.

“Kaya ang iglesia'y naghihimagsik laban sa manggagawa sa nakikita nilang KATIWALIAN AT KATAMPALASANAN na hindi nila inaasahang mangyari.

“Ano ang sulat sa akin ng isang kapatid? Baka gusto ninyong ipabasa ko sa inyo. Hanggang ngayon wala pa po akong nakikitang MATINO na manggagawa sa kasaysayan ng buhay ko, LAHAT ho puro TIWALI. Masakit na salita.

“NASAKTAN AKO... sapagka't ako'y manggagawa rin. Pero hindi ko masita yung kapatid sapagka't alam kong nagsasabi siya, kung hindi man buong-buo na katotohanan eh NAGSASALITA SIYA NG TOTOO.

“Wala nang nagkaroon ng takot sa Dios na kahit isa para tumayo at manindigan sa panig ng katuwiran. LAHAT MANLULUPIG na ng katuwiran.

“Bakit? SUWELDO ang hinahanap, yung TULONG niya, yung BAHAY niya, yung KASAGANAAN niya, siguro, ang TINATAMASA niya pero ang iglesia ay ayaw na niyang pagsilbihan ng totoo.

“Pero isipin ninyo, dumadami tuloy ang ating form. Nagagalit kayo sa opisina. Pati mga taga-opisina kinakalaban ng ibang mga manggagawa. Kapag nag-uulat sa akin, nagagalit. Nasaan ninyo gusto... Papaano ang ating gagawin sa iglesia?

“Kayo ang maghahari sa iglesia? Hindi. TAMAAN KAYO NG KIDLAT AT KULOG bago mangyari iyan. (Kung) Kaya sabi ko sa Dios, napakarami ho namang dapat BAHAING MANGGAGAWA, bakit hindi mo siyang binaha? PARA MALIPOL ang mga TAMPALASANG taong ito. Nadaig pa ang kasalanan ni Judas, iisang maestro ang ipinagkanulo. Iisa ang nagkanulo sa panahon ni Kristo pero NGAYON LAHAT NG MANGGAGAWA nagkakaisa ipagkanulo Dios.

“Te' kayo, tingnan ninyo, mga kapatid, iyan ang tagapamahala sa Visayas at Mindanao. Nagpalitan tayo ng mga matatagal na sa pamamahala. Eh isa-isa, lumalapit sa akin, dumadaing sa akin. Kapatid, mayroon ho akong problema. Ano? Yun hong nakatala sa ating sa senso na mga pangalan ng kapatid, eh hindi ko naman ho makita (dito) ngayon sa aking destino.

“Ano kako ang ibig mong sabihin? Eh ang numero ho eh napakalaki pero sa katotohanan ho'y wala yung tao. Ang Camarines, este ang Sorsogon, hinihiling sa akin na alisin sa talaan ang kulang-kulang na apatnaraang tao eh kakaunti lang naman ang kapatid sa Sorsogon.

“Bakit? Tinignan ko sa ulat ang nakaulat na malamig eh mahigit lang isandaan. Pero ang aalisin eh apat na raan.

“Eh bakit, ano ho ba ang ginawa nung mga dating naroon? Aba'y e di binabago ulat. “Pinakikinis para huwag mapagalitan.

“Samakamatuwid eh malaman, ang sinasanggalang iyong sarili, hindi ang kapakanan ng iglesia. Eh iyon ho ba'y sa Sorsogon lang? Laganap iyan kung saan-saan. Maski sa Maynila, ANG MGA MANGGAGAWA RITO'Y MAGDARAYA. Sasabihin sa iyo, dinoktrinahan ko iyan. Hindi naman. Sasabihin sa iyo, (nabautismu...) iyan ho'y nasubok sa pagsamba, pero hindi totoo. Eh bakit?

“Nakita sa matatandang ministro, nakita sa matatandang manggagawa na iyon pala ang paraan para siya ay bumuti sa paningin ng pangangasiwa.
“Sila ang nagsasanggalang ngayon sa kapakanan! Pero hanggang kailan tatagal ang iglesia'y INAAWAY ng mga MANGGAGAWA, BINABABAG, MINUMURA, NILALAIT at PINIPILIT NA KAYO ANG GUMAWA NG LIKO? Saan kayo nakakita ng manggagawa, sa halip na siyang magtindig sa nakalugmok.

“Yung nakatayo ang ilulugmok para lamang gumanda ang kanyang sarili. Eh kung dito sa Maynila nangyayari iyon eh, eh di lalo na sa probinsya, lalo na sa malalayong lugar. Ay, tingnan ninyo sa Mindanao at sa Bisaya ngayon eh, at sa lahat ng mga... eh iba, mabibigla, mababagong bigla ang senso ng iglesia. Ano ang dahilan? Wala pala yung mga kapatid na iyon, sinasabi lang na naroon. Sino ho ang may gawa niyan? Yung magdarayang manggagawa. Hindi iyong kapatid. Yung kapatid, magkamali man, eh hindi sinadya. YUNG MINISTRO, SINASADYA.

“Tumawag ako ng pulong ng mga pamunuan sa Maynila para sabihin: Mga kapatid, tumulong kayo sa akin. Ayokong mamatay ang manggagawa; ang gusto ko ay pagtulong-tulungan nating sila'y buhayin. Sabihin n'yo sa akin kung ano ang ating maitutulong. Aba'y hindi ang sinabi sa akin kung ano ang maitutulong. Ang sinabi sa akin kung anu-anong KATIWALIAN. Ang sabi sa akin nung isa; Kapatid, tama ho ba na hindi ho itinuturo outline? Tuwing mamimili ho ng tatlong talata, tatanungin, o ano, naiintindihan mo ba iyan? Tama ho ba kapatid, bungkos-bungkos na mga katibayan, siya pumipirma, PINAPALSIKA ho niya pirma ng mga kinauukulang kalihim at mga katiwala ng gawain? Pinigil ko. Ni hindi ko itinanong sino gumagawa niyan.

“Bakit? Alam kong ang manggagawa sa Maynila. Mawawalan ng dangal kapag nalaman ng lahat, siya pala'y MAGNANAKAW at TAMPALASAN.

“Maski saan ka bumaling eh, wala kang makikitang liwanag. Bakit? Kumalat, lumalaganap iyang espiritung iyan na DAYAIN ANG ULAT, dayain ang ulat, LINLANGIN ANG PANGANGASIWA.

“Sayang ang papel. Katakut-takot ang nagagastos natin. Binabayaran natin ang mga empleyado sa opisina, hindi pala totoo ang sinisiyasat nila.

“Dito ba magwawakas ang kamatayan ng mga ito? Sa tinagal-tagal ho ba ng iyong pagpapakasakit at pagpapakahirap, at iyon ang sugo sa huling araw, ay dito ba lamang ba matatapos ang kanilang buhay at takbuhin? Kundi ang manggagawa ang siyang lumulupig sa mga kapatid na gustong manindigan, tinatakot. Kaya nagkaroon tuloy ng paniniwala: Ang pinakamasamang tao ang mag-ulat. Ang pinakamasamang tao ang mag-ulat. Ang mabuti ang tahimik. Ang mabuti ang kunsintidor. Ang mabuti ang tiwali. Kaya hindi ako nagtataka, mga kapatid, kung bakit ang Dios pagod na pagod ng katatatag, talikod naman ng talikod ang tao.

“Ang tuntunin niya ang tinatalikuran. Ngayon, nagsasanay na naman ang mga manggagawa talikuran ang tuntunin! Pero sa ginagawa natin ngayon, sa ginagawa ng karamihang mga manggagawa kung hindi man lahat, anong ehemplo ang ipakikita sa may tungkulin?
“Papaano ko ngayon, papaano natin kokontrahin ang mga may tungkulin, magtapat kayo.
“Sasabihin ng may tungkulin: Ikaw ang salbahe eh. Lumilikom ka ng abuloy, wala namang pahintulot. Ikaw ang nagsabi sa amin na huwag na kaming magsusumbong. Papaano kami magtatapat eh ikaw ang gumagawa ng katiwalian? Papaano tayo makakalikha ng mabubuting may tungkulin? Papaano? Kung ganyan ang ating ipamumukha sa mga kapatid natin? Wala na kayong bibig diyan. Isipin ninyo sa Agusan, ilang beses, likom ng likom ng abuloy.?”

source: catholicdefender2000.blogspot.com

Ito ang nilalaman ng Lektura ng Ka Erano Manalo noong June 1, 1976 sa klase ng mga ministro at manggagawa, ito rin ang isa sa mga paboritong atake ng kampon ni Soriano at ng mga depensor Katoliko sa INC. Sabi nila, mabagsik daw ang Ka Erano, o kaya naman ay pinatutunayan daw ng Ka Erano na ang INC ay sa demonyo dahil wala ng tapat na ministro at manggagawa sa Iglesya...

Alam nyo, kung susurii natin maigi at hindi basta basta nanghuhusga sa MENSAHE ng dating tagapamahalang pangkalahatan, wala akong nakikitang dapat problemahin dito, unless yun ang gustong gustong gawin ng mga kampon ni Soriano at depensor Katoliko... ang MAMROBLEMA.

Hindi ko sinasabing nag overreact si Ka Erano, pero yung statements nyang yun, masasabi kong nasa anyong hyperbole. Dapat kasi nating malaman, na sinabi nya ito HINDI SA MGA PAGSAMBA, o kaya naman ay isang PALIBOT LIHAM PARA SA LAHAT NG INC, kundi ito ay kanyang sinabi sa klase ng mga ministro at manggagawa.

Kung nakapagsabi man sya ng hal. "LAHAT ng manggagawa masama o HALOS LAHAT ng mangagawa masama" hindi ito LITERAL, dahil kung may gumagawa man ng masama, itoy nabibilang at hindi LAHAT. Kumbaga sa PNP ng gobyerno, ang tingin natin sa mga pulis ay mataas, kaso may mga pulis talaga na gumagawa ng masama, MERON, pero hindi LAHAT.

Ang point kasi ng Ka Erano, e para sabihin sa kanila na, "Oh, wag nyo ng tularan ang mga ito dahil malalaman at malalaman ko ang mga pinaggagagawa nyo" ang gusto ng pamamahala eh kahit na hindi nya iniisa isa ang mga ginagawa ng manggagawa at ministro eh ginagawa nila ang kanilang tungkulin ng TAMA at TAPAT.


Tungkol ba saan ang naging main concern ng Ka Erano sa video?

--> Tungkol sa mga ministro at mangagawa na binabago ang ulat o MALI ang ulat.


Ano ba itong mga "Ulat" na ito?

--> Ito yung mga forms, mga papaer works sa INC. Ito ay expected na maipasa every week, o sa tinakdang deadline ng pagpapasa ng IBAT IBANG MAYTUNGKULIN sa loob ng iglesya. Bakit? Minomonitor kasi ng pamamahala ang LAHAT, oo LAHAT ng nangyayari sa Iglesya sa buong mundo. Totoong mahigpit ang pamamahala sa mga forms na ito, dahil gusto na ACCURATE ang lahat ng nakasulat para masubaybayan at masulusyunan kung ano man ang problema sa isang lokal.

Para sa akin, may mga pagkakataon kasi na mahirap talagang gumawa ng forms na ito, lalot wala pa rin yung impormasyon na dapat ilagay doon. Kaya masasabi ko na naiintindihan ko ang mga manggagawa at ministro na kinondena ng Ka Erano tungkol sa MALI o binabagong mga ulat. May mga pagkakataon kasi na hindi talaga accurate ang naisasagot dun, hindi para sa kadahilanang para hindi mapagalitan o para magpapogi, kundi yung impormasyon na kinakailangan ay WALA.

Tulad nga ng sinabi ko, strikto ang pamamahala sa mga ulat lalo na mga ulat galing sa ministro at manggagawa, pwede nila itong ika-suspinde, mawalan sila ng karapatan sa tungkulin (bihira sa mga ministro at manggagawa ang nakakabalik pa sa tungkulin pag nangyari ito) at ang worst, maaari nilang ikatiwalag dahil lamang sa maling impormasyon.

May kakilala akong kapatid, sinabi nya sa kin na sa probinsya nila ay may mga nawala ata sa tungkulin dahil lang tinanggap ng mga ministro ang regalo ng politicians nung dating eleksyon, kahit na hindi naman sa kanila manggagaling ang pasya kung sino ang iboboto. May naikwento pa sa akin na napagpalit lang ang leksyon ng thursday at linggo eh nasuspinde na. Ganyan kahigpit ang pamamahala lalo na kung tungkol sa pananalapi, lahat may pirma, bawal ang mali, kaya napakaimposible na may mangyaring korupsyon o sulutan ng pera, hindi nangyayari yan sa INC. Yung sa mga forms, kahit maliit na bagay yan para sa iba, sa pamamahala napakalaking bagay lalo na kung hindi ACCURATE ang inilalagay at sinusulat doon.


Eto ang sagot ng mga dating myembro ni Soriano na naliwanagan sa aral ng INC:

Marianito Cayao, Jr.: (Former Ang Dating Daan District Servant) "Ang laman ng lektura ng Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan, Iglesia ni Cristo noong 1976. Ito 'yon...ang bahagi na hindi ipinaririnig ni Eliseo Soriano. Pinutol ni Eliseo Soriano upang maiparating na ang Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan ay mabagsik...hindi po 'yan ang katotohanan. 'Eto po, pakinggan ninyo...ang buong katotohanan, ang nilalaman ng lektura ng Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan ng INC noong 1976..."

Kapatid na Eraño G. Manalo, Tagapamahalang Pangkalahatan (sa klase ng mga Ministro at Manggagawa, Hunyo 1, 1976):

"Kaya hilingin natin sa Dios, sa ating muling pananalangin na sana'y mabuksan ang ating pag-iisip. 'Wag ninyong tanggapin ang mga salitang ito na paris ng salitang kapagdaramdam ang sabi nga ni Pablo. Tanggapin sana ninyo na ang mga salitang 'yan, siyang kailangan natin, siyang gamot sa matinding sakit na maa-aring pumatay sa atin at sa iglesia.

Pagkatapos hilingin nating tayo'y kasangkapanin ng Dios para ito'y makarating sa lahat ng kaliit-liitang manggagawa. At hinihiling ko sa Dios, 'yung mga manggagawang tapat lalo na iyong mga manggagawang ginugugol ang buhay nila sa paglalakbay para makarating sa destino, at ang kanilang buhay ay talagang nakahandog na sa Dios!...Iyon ay pagpalain. Pagpalain ng Dios kung hindi ko man sila nakikita, kung hindi ko man nasiyasat ang kanilang mga kalagayan ...sa dami nga ng nagkatabun-tabong mga ulat, pero ang Dios...hinihiling ko sa kanya...itindig 'nya ang mga tapat na manggagawa. Basbasan 'nya, palakasin 'nya! Kung hindi man maging sagana sa buhay na ito't maaring ikahiwalay pa 'nya, makatapos manlang siya ng takbuhin...ang iglesia'y madala 'nyang karapat-dapat..."

"Pero gusto kong maging saksi ang mga kapatid nating buhay ngayon, lalo na ang mga...nakakita ng hirap at sakit ng sugo at 'tsaka ng iglesia na...hindi natin kukunsintihin ang ganitong masamang gawa. Puputulin natin 'yan, sukdulang walang mai-sugo ako sa pag-samba. Hihilingin ko sa Dios na siya ang gumawa ng paraan...pero hindi ko papayagan na kaylanpaman at pagkatapos ng pulong na ito ay maka...silip ako ng isa pang katiwalian, hindi ako papayag na hindi putulin 'yon...Pero sa paghahangad ko mga kapatid na...mabuhay pa kayo, maitayo pa kayo, magamot pa 'yan...kaya ako nagsalita ng buong tindi sa klaseng ito..."

Yun naman pala, CUTTED VERSION pala yung ginagamit ng kampon ni Soriano at mga depensor Katoliko para palabasing MABAGSIK o kaya naman ay sa demonyo ang INC dahil may mga ministro at manggagawa na gumawa ng masama.

Tanong: Bakit patuloy na ginagamit nila itong pang atake sa INC samantalang 1976 pa ito? Panahon pa ni kopong kopong?

Sagot: Iyon kasi ang tinatawag na natural instinct. Pag masama ka, MASAMA rin ang gagawin mo, kaya yung mga kampon ni Soriano at mga depensor Katoliko, ayan, gumagawa ng mga kopya at pinapalaganap ang simpleng bagay na lektura ng Ka Erano sa KLASE NG MGA MINISTRO AT MANGGAGAWA.

Kung tutuusin hindi naman ito dapat gawing pang atake dahil hindi naman ito LITERAL, na porke nasambit ng Ka Erano ang salitang LAHAT o HALOS LAHAT eh yun na.


Ano ba ang Hyperbole?

->is the use of exaggeration as a rhetorical device or figure of speech. It may be used to evoke strong feelings or to create a strong impression, but is not meant to be taken literally.

source: wikipedia


Ang Iglesia ni Cristo sinusugpo ang mga katiwalian at mga anomalya...

Ka Erano: "hindi natin kukunsintihin ang ganitong masamang gawa. Puputulin natin 'yan, sukdulang walang mai-sugo ako sa pag-samba. Hihilingin ko sa Dios na siya ang gumawa ng paraan...

pero hindi ko papayagan na kaylanpaman at pagkatapos ng pulong na ito ay maka...silip ako ng isa pang katiwalian, hindi ako papayag na hindi putulin 'yon...Pero sa paghahangad ko mga kapatid na...mabuhay pa kayo, maitayo pa kayo, magamot pa 'yan...

kaya ako nagsalita ng buong tindi sa klaseng ito..."

Ang Iglesia Katolika TINATAGO na mga katiwalian at anomalya, pinoprotektahan pa ang masasama sa iglesia nila...

Ang ginagawa ng pope, APOLOGY, APOLOGY, APOLOGY...
Sa dami dami ng kasalanan ng mga masasamang pari, cardinal, archbishop, bishops at popes, yan na lang ang maaari nilang gawin... APOLOGY.

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