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September 2, 2009

The Trinity


Can we find the word Trinity in the Bible?

Is the teaching about the Trinity can be found in the bible?

From cover to cover of the bible, can we find that the Father, Son and the Holy spirit are one God?

From cover to cover of the bible, can we find that JESUS CHRIST said that he is GOD?

We can understand what Trinity really means and discover its origin if we will open our minds and hearts, are we ready to face the truth?



What is Trinity?

The trinity in the dictionary means:

“the union of the three divine persons (Father, Son, and Holy Spirit) in one Godhead”.

What is the history of the Trinity doctrine?

Is it true that it is a teaching that can be found in the bible? Or the fact that it only showed in the 4th century, formed by the high ranking officials in the Catholic Church and that there are so many formulas involved on formulating it? 

I will not give my any opinion here, let us just read wikipedia:


History

Origin of the formula

The basis for the doctrine of the Trinity is found in New Testament passages that associate the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Two such passages are Matthew's Great Commission: "Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit" and St Paul's: "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ and the love of God and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all."[2 Cor. 13:14]

In 325, the Council of Nicaea adopted a term for the relationship between the Son and the Father that from then on was seen as the hallmark of orthodoxy; it declared that the Son is "of the same substance" (ὁμοούσιος) as the Father. This was further developed into the formula "three persons, one substance".

The answer to the question "What is God?" indicates the one-ness of the divine nature, while the answer to the question "Who is God?" indicates the three-ness of "Father, Son and Holy Spirit".

Saint Athanasius, who was a participant in the Council, stated that the bishops were forced to use this terminology, which is not found in Scripture, because the Biblical phrases that they would have preferred to use were claimed by the Arians to be capable of being interpreted in what the bishops considered to be a heretical sense.

They therefore "commandered the non-scriptural term homoousios ('of one substance') in order to safeguard the essential relation of the Son to the Father that had been denied by Arius."

The Confession of the Council of Nicaea said little about the Holy Spirit. The doctrine of the divinity and personality of the Holy Spirit was developed by Athanasius (c 293 - 373) in the last decades of his life. He both defended and refined the Nicene formula. By the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of Basil of Caesarea, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine had reached substantially its current form.

Formulation of the doctrine


The most significant developments in articulating the doctrine of the Trinity took place in the 4th century, with a group of men known as the Church Fathers. Although the earliest Church Fathers had affirmed the teachings of the Apostles, their focus was on their pastoral duties to the Church under the persecution of the Roman Empire.

Thus the early Fathers were largely unable to compose doctrinal treatises and theological expositions. With the relaxing of the persecution of the church during the rise of Constantine, the stage was set for ecumenical dialogue.

Trinitarians believe that the resultant councils and creeds did not discover or create doctrine, but rather, responding to serious heresies such as Arianism, articulated in the creeds the truths that the orthodox church had believed since the time of the apostles.

The Ante-Nicene Fathers, although very likely foreign to the specifics of Trinitarian theology because they were not defined until the 4th century, nevertheless affirmed Christ's deity and referenced "Father, Son and Holy Spirit". Trinitarians view these as elements of the codified doctrine.

The Trinitarian view has been affirmed as an article of faith by the Nicene (325/381) and Athanasian creeds (circa 500), which attempted to standardize belief in the face of disagreements on the subject. These creeds were formulated and ratified by the Church of the third and fourth centuries in reaction to heterodox theologies concerning the Trinity and/or Christ.

The Nicene-Constantinopolitan Creed, revised in 381 by the second of these councils, is professed by the Eastern Orthodox Church and, with one addition (Filioque clause), the Roman Catholic Church, and has been retained in some form in the Anglican Communion and most Protestant denominations.

The Nicene Creed, which is a classic formulation of the doctrine of the Trinity, uses "homoousios" (Greek for "of the same essence") of the relation of the Son's relationship with the Father. This word differs from that used by non-Trinitarians of the time, "homoiousios" (Greek for "of similar essence"), by a single Greek letter, "one iota", a fact proverbially used to speak of deep divisions, especially in theology, expressed by seemingly small verbal differences.

One of the (probably three) Church councils that in 264–266 condemned Paul of Samosata for his Adoptionist theology also condemned the term "homoousios" in the sense he used it. Fourth-century Christians who objected to the Nicene trinity made copious use of this condemnation by a reputable council.

Moreover, the meanings of "ousia" and "hypostasis" overlapped at the time, so that the latter term for some meant essence and for others person. Athanasius of Alexandria (293–373) helped to clarify the terms.

Because Christianity converts cultures from within, the doctrinal formulas as they have developed bear the marks of the ages through which the church has passed. The rhetorical tools of Greek philosophy, especially of Neoplatonism, are evident in the language adopted to explain the church's rejection of Arianism and Adoptionism on one hand (teaching that Christ is inferior to the Father, or even that he was merely human), and Docetism and Sabellianism on the other hand (teaching that Christ was an illusion, or that he was identical to God the Father).

Augustine of Hippo has been noted at the forefront of these formulations; and he contributed much to the speculative development of the doctrine of the Trinity as it is known today, in the West; the Cappadocian Fathers (Basil the Great, Gregory of Nyssa, and Gregory Nazianzus) are more prominent in the East. The imprint of Augustinianism is found, for example, in the western Athanasian Creed, which, although it bears the name and reproduces the views of the fourth century opponent of Arianism, was probably written much later.

These controversies were for most purposes settled at the Ecumenical councils, whose creeds affirm the doctrine of the Trinity.

According to the Athanasian Creed, each of these three divine persons is said to be eternal, each almighty, none greater or less than another, each God, and yet together being but one God, So are we forbidden by the Catholic religion to say: There are three Gods or three Lords.—Athanasian Creed, line 20.

Modalists attempted to resolve the mystery of the Trinity by holding that the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost are modes, aspects or roles, of God. This anti-Trinitarian view contends that the three "persons" are not distinct persons, but titles which describe how humanity has interacted with or experienced God. In the role of the Father, God is the provider and creator of all. In the mode of the Son, man experiences God in the flesh, as a human, fully man and fully God.

God manifests himself as the Holy Spirit by his actions on Earth and within the lives of Christians. This view is known as Sabellianism, and was rejected as heresy by the Ecumenical Councils although it is still prevalent today among those denominations known as "Oneness" and "Apostolic" Pentecostal Christians, the largest of which is the United Pentecostal Church International. Trinitarianism, on the other hand, insists that the Father, Son and Spirit simultaneously exist as three persons in one essence, each fully the same God.

The doctrine developed into its present form precisely through this kind of confrontation with alternatives; and the process of refinement continues in the same way. Even now, ecumenical dialogue between Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Roman Catholic, the Assyrian Church of the East, Anglican and Trinitarian Protestants, seeks an expression of Trinitarian and Christological doctrine which will overcome the extremely subtle differences that have largely contributed to dividing them into separate communities. The doctrine of the Trinity is therefore symbolic, somewhat paradoxically, of both division and unity.
source: wikipedia

The meaning of trinity according to some Trinitarians

Catholic

“The trinity is a wonderful mystery. No one understands it. The most learned theologian, the holiest pope, the greatest saint, all are mystified by it as the child of seven” (Martin J. Scott)

“In this one God there are three distinct persons, -- the father, the son and the holy ghost, who are perfectly equal to each otherJames cardinal gibbons

Eastern Orthodox



“Orthodoxy worships one god in the trinity and the trinity in unity, neither confusing the persons nor dividing the substance” Arthur Douropolus

Lutheran



“The only true God is the triune God: Father, Son and the Holy ghost, three distinct persons in one divine being, or essence” BOOK: A Short explanation of Dr. Martin Luther’s Small catechism

Methodist



“We believe the one God reveals himself as the trinity: Father, son and Holy spirit, distinct but inseparable, eternally one in essence and power” BOOK: The book of discipline of the united methodist church

Baptist



Does Baptist accept the doctrine of trinity?

“Most Baptist do. This is a basic doctrine of Christianity… The sublime mystery of the trinity, of the eternal and infinite essence of God manifested in three persons—these, the Baptist leaves to the theologians to interpret. He accepts them.” William B. Lipphard

What the bible said about God, Christ and the Holy Spirit
 

About the True God
 Jesus Christ stated:

“And this is eternal life: that people know you, the only true God, and that they know Jesus Christ, the One you sent.” john 17:3



Apostle Paul said:


“Even though there are things called gods, in heaven or on earth (and there are many "gods" and "lords"), for us there is only one God—our Father. All things came from him, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord—Jesus Christ. All things were made through him, and we also were made through him.” I Cor. 8: 5-6



On the song of Moses: 



"I will proclaim the name of the Lord. Oh, praise the greatness of our God!Is this the way you repay the Lord, you foolish and unwise people? ""Is he not your Father, your Creator, who made you and formed you?" Deut. 32:4, 7


About Jesus Christ

Jesus Christ declared:


And this is eternal life: that people know you, the only true God, and that theyknow Jesus Christ, the One you sent.John 17:3

“Jesus said to them, "If God were really your Father, you would love me, because I came from God and now I am here. I did not come by my own authority; God sent me.” john 8:42


“I can do nothing alone. I judge only the way I am told, so my judgment is fair. I don't try to please myself, but I try to please the One who sent me.john 5:30


“You heard me say to you, 'I am going, but I am coming back to you.' If you loved me, you should be happy that I am going back to the Father, because he is greater than I am. john 14:28


I am a man who has told you the truth which I heard from God, but you are trying to kill me. Abraham did nothing like that.” john 8:40


“Jesus said to her, "Don't hold on to me, because I have not yet gone up to the Father. But go to my brothers and tell them, 'I am going back to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.' "” john 20:17

About the Holy Spirit



“But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in My name, He will teach you all things, and bring to your remembrance all that I said to you.” john 14:26

“I will send you the Helper from the Father; he is the Spirit of truth who comes from the Father. When he comes, he will tell about me,” john 15:26


SHOULD WE BE SURPRISED if not all men know the truth about the TRUE GOD?

“But we know that there is only one God, the Father, who created everything, and we live for him. And there is only one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom God made everything and through whom we have been given life. However, not all believers know this. Some are accustomed to thinking of idols as being real, so when they eat food that has been offered to idols, they think of it as the worship of real gods, and their weak consciences are violated. “ I Cor. 8:6-7

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  1. 1 Corinthians 8:4-6
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    4 Therefore concerning the eating of things offered to idols, we know that an idol is nothing in the world, and that there is no other God but one. 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as there are many gods and many lords), 6 yet for us there is one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we for Him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, through whom are all things, and through whom we live.

    *The Father and the Son are the one God and one Lord that is being referred here in 1 Corinthians 8:6, here’s why:
    1) First, if you go up to verse 4 and 5, the idols are referring to pagan gods and lords. The gods are identical to lords in the pagan world, for example if Mars is the god of war, he would also be the lord of war. The gods and lords here are synonymous to each other. So even from the beginning of the passage, it is not talking of different god and different lord; the god and lord is synonymous and identical.
    2) Second, the Son is also God just like the Father (that is clear in the Scriptures). The Father is also Lord just like the Son (that is also clear in the Scriptures). So, the Father cannot be the only God and the Son cannot be the only Lord; but rather both of them is the one God and one Lord.
    3) Third, the used of conjunction “and” just like John 17:3, meaning that the one God and one Lord here is the Father and the Son.
    4) Fourth and finally, all things are also through God (Romans 11:32-36), because God is not only the Father. It is clear in the Scriptures that all things are from the Father, and all things are through the Son and Holy Spirit; so, it is correct to say that all things are from God and through God.
    Romans 11:32-36
    New King James Version (NKJV)
    32 For God has committed them all to disobedience, that He might have mercy on all.
    33 Oh, the depth of the riches both of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are His judgments and His ways past finding out!
    34 “ For who has known the mind of the LORD?
    Or who has become His counselor?”
    35 “ Or who has first given to Him
    And it shall be repaid to him?”
    36 For of Him and through Him and to Him are all things, to whom be glory forever. Amen.

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  2. The word "monotheism" is a belief of one God. The word monotheism is not found in the bible but the doctrine of one God is all over the bible. Same thing with the Trinity; the word itself is not found in the bible but the doctrine of one God who is revealed in three persons is all over the bible.

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    1. Jews believe in ONLY ONE GOD. Jesus is also a Jew.

      He has a God:

      "About the ninth hour Jesus cried out in a loud voice, "Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani?"--which means, "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" Mat. 27:46

      "Jesus said to her, "Don't hold on to me, because I have not yet gone up to the Father. But go to my brothers and tell them, 'I am going back to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" John 20:17

      If monotheism is a belief of one God, Jesus CANNOT be God because he himself has a God. If Jesus is a God and He himself has a God then there will be two Gods, then that will be against monotheism.

      Trinity is a doctrine created after the death of the apostles, specifically in the 4th century.

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  3. THE FATHER IS JESUS' GOD IN HIS HUMAN NATURE. HIS HUMANITY HAS A GOD.

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  4. Then that will imply that Jesus is GREATER than the Father because he has two natures while the Father has only one. It will also show that the Father is not ALMIGHTY because he cant be a human while his Son, a God, CAN.

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    1. Jesus, having two natures as man and God, does not apply a lesser God the father because although man's perception of God the father and the son are distinct they are in essence one.

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  5. ->GOD is never a MAN(HUMAN) and never CHANGE/TRANSFORM. WHY? BIBLE SAID:

    I will not execute the fierceness of mine anger, I will not return to destroy Ephraim: for I AM GOD, AND NOT MAN; the Holy One in the midst of thee: and I will not enter into the city(Hosea 11:9)
    Descendants of Jacob, I am the LORD All-Powerful, and I NEVER CHANGE. .(Malachi 3:6, CEV)

    Every good gift and perfect present comes from God, the Creator of heavenly lights, WITH WHOM IS NO VARIABLENESS, NEITHER SHADOW OF TURNING, (James 1:17, KJV) WHO DOES NOT CHANGE (James 1:17, TEV)

    "GOD IS NOT A MAN, that He should lie, nor a son of man, that He should repent. Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken, and will He not make it good? (Numbers 23:19, NKJV)

    ->God is spirit and has no flesh and bones unlike man.

    4:24 GOD IS A SPIRIT: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.(John 4:24)

    24:39…FOR A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES …(Luke. 24:39)


    ->A MAN(HUMAN) IS NOT GOD
    28:2 Son of man, say unto the prince of Tyrus, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because thine heart is lifted up, and thou hast said, I am a God, I sit in the seat of God, in the midst of the seas; YET THOU ART A MAN, AND NOT GOD, though thou set thine heart as the heart of God. (Ezekiel 28:2)

    ---Therefore a God can NEVER be a MAN(human form), Cause God already stated that He is not a MAN(human form) and he NEVER CHANGE.

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  6. ->Jesus Christ is a MAN(HUMAN) before(John 8:40) and after(Luke. 24:39) resurrection, even when he reached heaven(Heb. 10:12).

    Before resurrection:
    “But now you seek to kill me, A MAN who was told you the truth which I heard from God.” (John 8:40)

    After resurrection:
    “Behold MY HANDS AND MY FEET, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; FOR A SPIRIT HATH NOT FLESH AND BONES, as ye see me have.” (Luke. 24:39)

    When he reached heaven:
    "BUT THIS MAN, after He had offered one sacrifice for sins forever, sat down at the right hand of God" (Heb. 10:12)

    In fact, those people/group that deny or do not acknowledge that our Lord Jesus Christ is a human are called by the Bible as ANTI-CHRIST.

    “There are a lot of smooth-talking charlatans loose in the world who refuse to believe that Jesus Christ was TRULY HUMAN, a flesh-and-blood human being. Give them their true title: DECEIVER! ANTICHRIST! “(2 John 1:7, MSG)

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  7. John 1In the beginning was the Word, and the Word (referring to Jesus) was with God, and the Word was God (Jesus is God) . He (Jesus) was in the beginning with God.
    And the Word (Jesus) became flesh and dwelt among us,.. Its vey clear that Jesus is God dont midlead the people.... Jesus is the way the truth and the life NO ONE ( even ur religion) comes to the Father except through Him..

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