Kilala nyo ba si "Copypaste Faith Defender" este Catholicdefender2000 na may blog na kung tawagin ay "In defense of the Church"? (Kung tutuusin hindi naman AKMA ang pangalan ng kaniyang blog sa kaniyang pinopost dahil puro atake sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang laman lang noon, kaya ang tamang tawag doon ay "Attacking Iglesia ni Cristo")
Siya lang naman po yung CFD na walang kasawa sawa sa pagpapahiya ng kaniyang sarili lalo na pag sinasagot ang kaniyang mga akusasyon at kasinungalingan sa blog na ito.
Isa rin siya sa mga fans ng blog na ito, kaya nga siya updated palagi kahit hindi nako ganun ka active mag blog.
Nakakapagtaka po ano, kung kelan ako hindi naging active saka naman siya post ng psot sa kaniyang blog, nung marami naman akong oras magblog, siya naman tong nawala ng parang bula na di malaman kung saan na nagsuot. Huwag na po tayong magulat, ganun talaga ang mga duwag :)
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May 26, 2015
December 26, 2014
Ang mali maling pag-intindi ni Catholicdefender2000
Maling mali po talaga ang pag intindi ni Catholicdefender2000 sa sinabi ko kung saan kinowt niya ang sinabi ko saka nagbigay ng sarili niyang interpretasyon na salungat daw ako sa itinuturo ng Iglesia ni Cristo.
Eto post niya:
Eto post niya:

Here is what the Iglesia Ni Cristo®'s position on Jesus' pre-existence."Many believe that Christ is God who pre-existed before being born on Earth. However, such a belief is based on erroneous interpretations of the Holy Bible." -INCMedia.orgTherefore, IglesiaNiCristoREADME, the only INC™ Defender in the blogsphere is UNBIBLICAL according to the management of the Iglesia Ni Cristo®, Incorporated.Thank you for clarifying.
Thank you for clarifying daw eh ang labo naman ng intindi niya sa sinabi ko.
Hindi na nakakapagtaka kung bakit labo labo din ang mga artikulo neto lagi ni Catholicdefender2000 :)
Para lang malinaw, wala po akong sinasabing naniniwala ako na si Kristo at ang espiritu santo ang kasama sa pasimula ng Diyos. Si Kristo ay walang pre existence. Nag eexist si Kristo nang pasimula hindi bilang Diyos, kundi nag eexist siya sa ISIP ng Diyos, kaya nga siya yun kinatuparan ng hula kung saan ang "SALITA" ay naging LAMAN (Juan 1:14)...
Nagbigay lang kasi si Jeffrey Trinidad (na aking ka-diskusyon noong mga pagkakataon na yon) ng mga talata sa bibliya na ang nais niyang palabasin doon eh SI KRISTO AT ANG ESPIRITU SANTO AY NANDOON NA SA SIMULA KASAMA NG DIYOS. Kaya ko sinabi iyon bilang komento ko. Hindi ko paniniwala yon kundi yun ang gustong palabasin ni Jeffrey Trinidad.
Samantalang ang tanong ng aking artikulo ay "Sino ang kausap ng Diyos sa GEN. 1:26". Ang dapat kasi niyang ginawa eh magbigay ng talata sa bibliya kung saan nagsasabing si KRISTO AT ANG ESPIRITU SANTO ang KAUSAP niya mismo nang sinabi niyang "LALANGIN NATIN" sa nasabing talata.
Yan ang di gets ng CFDng nagmamagaling.
Makikibasa na lang ng comment, mamaliin pa ang ibig sabihin.
Anu bu yun.
hashtag #epicfail
Eto naging pag uusap namin ni Jeffrey Trinidad kayo na po humusga:
Eto naging pag uusap namin ni Jeffrey Trinidad kayo na po humusga:
Jeffrey Trinidad
Sino ang kausap ng Diyos sa Genesis 1:26?
Sagot:
Kausap ng Ama ang Anak at Espiritu Santo at sinabi niyang:
"Lalangin natin ang tao sa ating larawan, ayon sa ating wangis"
Bakit ko nasabing ang Anak at Espiritu Santo ang kausap ng Ama?
Sagot:
Gen 1:1 Nang pasimula ay nilikha ng Dios ang langit at ang lupa.
Gen 1:2 At ang lupa ay walang anyo at walang laman; at ang kadiliman ay sumasa ibabaw ng kalaliman; at ang Espiritu ng Dios ay sumasa ibabaw ng tubig.
Gen 1:3 At sinabi ng Dios Magkaroon ng liwanag; at nagkaroon ng liwanag.
SA UMPISA PA LAMANG NG GENESIS AY KASAMA NA NG AMA ANG KANIYANG SALITA (NA SIYANG ANAK) AT KANIYANG ESPIRITU (NA SIYANG ESPIRITU SANTO).
ANO PA ANG ISANG EBIDENSYA NA KASAMA NA NG AMA ANG ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO SA PAGLIKHA?
Psa 33:6 Sa pamamagitan ng salita ng Panginoon ay nayari ang mga langit; at lahat ng natatanaw roon ay sa pamamagitan ng hinga ng kaniyang bibig.
ANG AMA SA PAMAMAGITAN NG KANIYANG SALITA (NA SIYANG ANAK) AT SA PAMAMAGITAN NG HINGA NG KANIYANG BIBIG (NA SIYANG ESPIRITU SANTO) AY NAYARI ANG MGA LANGIT AT ANG LAHAT NG NATATANAW ROON.
ANG AMA, ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO AY IISANG DIYOS LAMANG NA LUMIKHA.
BUHAT SA AMA ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY
AT SA PAMAMAGITAN NG ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY.
Rom 11:32 Sapagka't ang lahat ay kinulong ng Dios sa kasuwayan, upang siya'y mahabag sa lahat.
Rom 11:33 Oh kalaliman ng mga kayamanan ng karunungan at ng kaalaman ng Dios! oh di matingkalang mga hatol niya, at hindi malirip na kaniyang mga daan!
Rom 11:34 Sapagka't sino ang nakaalam ng pagiisip ng Panginoon? o sino ang kaniyang naging kasangguni?
Rom 11:35 O sino ang nagbigay na una sa kaniya, at siya'y babayarang muli?
Rom 11:36 Sapagka't kaniya, at sa pamamagitan niya, at sa kaniya, ang lahat ng mga bagay. Sumakaniya nawa ang kaluwalhatian magpakailan man. Siya nawa.
BUHAT SA DIYOS AT SA PAMAMAGITAN NG DIYOS ANG LAHAT NG BAGAY.
BUHAT SA DIYOS (AMA)
AT SA PAMAMAGITAN NG DIYOS (ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO)
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Salamat po sa pagshashare ng inyong personal interpretation ng bibliya. Ngunit mali po ang ginagawa nyo dahil labag yon sa bibliya. lahat ng nabanggit nyo eh hindi naman mga patunay na si Kristo at ang Espiritu santong mga Diyos nyo ang kasama ng tunay na Diyos, Ang Ama ang kausap niya sa Gen. 1:26, kundi pagpapatunay na si Kristo at ang Espiritu Santo eh nandoon na sa simula kasama ng Diyos.
May espiritu talaga ang Diyos pero ang Espiritu Santo eh hindi Diyos. Wala tayong mababasa sa bibliya na kasama ng ESPIRITU SANTONG DIYOS ang DIYOS at ang ESPIRITU SANTO ay DIYOS DIN. Wala rin tayong mababasa sa bibliya na si Kristo ay kasama na ng Diyos nung ginagawa niya ang mundo at mga tao. Wala rin tayong mababasa sa bibliya na binanggit na ang KASAMA ng DIYOS sa "NATIN" sa Gen 1:26 ay tumutukoy sa ESPIRITU SANTO at kay KRISTO. WALA!
Ang kasama ng Diyos noong simula ay ang "ANG SALITA" (juan 1:1) at hindi lang basta basta "SALITA" at lalo namang hindi "ANG SALITA NG DIYOS". Si Kristo ay hindi mismo ang "THE WORD/THE LOGOS/ANG SALITA" dahil kung siya nga mismo yon sana eh sinabi na lang sa juan 1:14 na ANG NAGKATAWANG TAO eh SI KRISTO, pero hindi, ang sabi, ANG SALITA ay NAGING LAMAN. magkaiba yun.
Mali rin ang iyong sinabi na:
"ANG AMA, ANAK AT ESPIRITU SANTO AY IISANG DIYOS LAMANG NA LUMIKHA."
Ang iyong TRINITY ay hindi "IISANG DIYOS" kundi "ISANG DIYOS". Hindi ito ONLY ONE GOD kundi ONE GOD. Ireview nyo ang paniniwala nyo sa Trinity para okay tayo.
June 18, 2013
Catholicdefender2000 is an anti-Catholic!
Catholicdefender2000 said:
"The INC of Manalo and other anti-Catholics say that the Catholic Church is a "False Church" when in fact, it was divinely protected for more than 2,000 years now."
VS.
Catholicdefender2000's one of his posts:
He refer the Catholic Church on his article as "FALSE CHURCH" not just once but 20 times! Dont believe me? Check his blog.
And again, in one of his latest post, he called the Catholic Church the "FALSE CHURCH" 18 times!
WOW, you Catholicdefender2000 is truly an ANTI-CATHOLIC, amazing!
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Questions of Catholicdefender2000 to me:
- How could a "False Church" be present in 6 continents for the past 2 millennia and comprising of 1.2 billion people, 1/6 of the World's total population-- more than the population of Protestants combined?
- How could a "False Church" be recognized by all countries in the world and how these countries allowed this "False Church" establish a diplomatic ties with them if the Catholic Church is a "False Church"?
- How could this "False Church" so brave to establish parishes and friendship to other religions when they are a "False Church"?
- How could a "False Church" have historical houses of worships?
- Why would holy people chose to die for the sake of a "False Church"?
- And why would God allow a "False Church" to PROSPER, GROW and INFLUENCE people to become HOLY and RIGHTEOUS?
My short answer about this "FALSE CHURCH" (according to the anti-Catholic Catholicdefender2000):
Roman Catholic Church = False Church = Mother of Harlots
Revelation 17:1 says:
"And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:"
What do we mean by the great whore that "sitteth upon may waters"?
"And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues." Revelation 17:15
Who or what is the "Mother of Harlots"?
Revelation 17:5 says:
"And upon her forehead was a name written, Mystery, Babylon The Great, The Mother Of Harlots And Abominations Of The Earth."
The website of the Vatican says:
bestcatholic.com says:
"With the rise of Christianity, Rome became the center of the Roman Catholic Church and the home of the popes."
The "Mother of Harlots" is also a GREAT CITY:
"And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth." Rev. 17: 18
Other questions of the anti-Catholic:
- Why is it that the "true church"- the Iglesia ni Cristo (Registered Trademark) is just only 98 years existence? And why for 98 years they only have 2.5 million only - just the size of Catholics in Metro Manila? -- Is this a mark of a "true church"?
- Why is that the the "true church" - the Iglesia ni Cristo (Registered Trademark) is not recognized by any country except that it's a Registered Trademark that is protected under the Laws of Patents and Trademarks? - Is this a mark of a "true church"?
- Why is it that this "true church" - the Iglesia ni Cristo (Registered Trademark) cannot make friends (and are not recognized by other denomination) with other beliefs? - Is this a mark of a "true church"?
- Why this "true church" - the Iglesia ni Cristo (Registered Trademark) is just established recently and is always in Tagalog? - Is this a mark of a "true church"?
My short answer:
Let us ask our Lord Jesus Christ, the founder of the true Church of Christ:
"Then Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he made his way to Jerusalem. Someone asked him, “Lord, are only a few people going to be saved?” He said to them, “Make every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to." Luke 13:22-24
Also, God do not choose his people just because they are many or numerous than other people, like his first nation, the Israel:
"The LORD did not set his affection on you and choose you because you were more numerous than other peoples, for you were the fewest of all peoples." Deut. 7:7
The church may not be recognized by the world, it is because they do not know God:
"See what marvellous love the Father has bestowed upon us--that we should be called God's children: and that is what we are. For this reason the world does not recognize us--because it has not known Him." I John 3:1
A prophecy from the bible tells us that the Church of Christ will re emerge (after it had fallen to apostasy) in the ends of the earth:
“Fear not, for I am with you; I will bring your descendants from the east, and gather you from the west; I will say to the north, ‘give them up!’ And to the south, ‘Do not keep them back!’ Bring my sons from afar and my daughters from the ends of the earth.” Isa. 43:5-6
It is in the time of World War I which broke out on July 27, 1914 the exact date the "Iglesia ni Cristo (tagalog)" or "Church of Christ (english)" or "Iglesia de Cristo (spanish)" was registered in the Philippine government:
"To avoid problems in the future, the Iglesia ni Cristo was officially registered as a corporation sole with Felix Manalo as executive minister on July 27, 1914..." source: National Historical Commission
Happy with my answers anti-Catholic Catholicdefender2000?^^
I know you will never be satisfied because you have no contentment in your life!
March 2, 2013
Sa tingin mo ba nakakaangat na kayo Catholicdefender2000?
Hindi ko maiwasang hindi magkomento sa bias (kung sa bagay simulat simula pa man eh ganoon na) na posts ni Catholicdefender2000 sa kaniyang blog. Nagtataka lamang ako, ano bang ginawa sayo ng Iglesia ni Cristo para kamuhian mo ang Iglesia at pati kami ng ganyan? Halatang may pinaghuhugutan ka ata? Bukod sa doktrina namin na one true church at no salvation outside the church, may iba pa bang rason para ikaw ay magkaganyan?
Kasi ako, wala akong hinanakit sa Catholic Church at sa kahit ano pang churches mapa-protestante man o mapa-Iglesia man ni Mr. Soriano, ang ginagawa ko ay dumedepensa lamang, kasabay noon ang paglalahad ng katotohanan sa mga tao.
Tignan nyo po at pansinin ang isa lamang sa mga latest post ng ating kaibigang masyadong iniidolo ang Iglesia ni Cristo (kaya gumawa pa siya ng blog na ang pamagat ay IGLESIA NI CRISTO sa halip na Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana) eto po:
Sa dinami dami namang ieexample, hinding hindi nawawala sa mga post nya ang pangalang IGLESIA NI CRISTO. Bakit kaya ganun? Obvious tuloy na enemy no.1 niya ang INC, samantalang wala naman sa kanyang ginagawang masama ang Iglesia. Favorite issue daw ang mga Paring Katolikong nangmolestiya ng mga bata.
Wala namang makakatanggi sa KATOTOHANANG iyan, kahit pa mga katoliko at kahit IKAW.
Bakit problemadong problemado ka ata sa katotohanang yan, at bakit special mention ang Iglesia ni Cristo sa post mo? Ibig sabihin ba, MAJORITY ng tumutuligsa sa inyo tungkol sa sex abuse na yan sa buong mundo eh mga INC members? Na lagi mong sinasabi na 2.3% ng populasyon ng Pilipinas?
Akala ko ba sobrang daming nagpepersecute ng church nyo?
At bakit ka nagkowt ng balita tungkol sa sex abuse cases ng Protestant churches?
Sa tingin mo ba Catholicdefender2000 sa ginawa mo MAS NAKAKA ANGAT NA KAYO?
Sa tingin mo ba NALINIS NA ANG KASALANAN NG MGA PARI NYO?
Sa tingin mo ba mas nakabuti na malaman ng mga tao na hindi lang pala Catholic priests ang may sex abuse cases, pati rin pala mga Protestante?
Sa tingin mo ba makakatakas at maaabswelto na kayo sa mga kasalanan ng PARI NYO?
At sa tingin mo ba makakaya pang LINISIN ng Catholic authorities ang pangalan ng Iglesia Katolika sa kabila ng mga kasalanan nito tulad ng Inquisition, Catholic sex abuse cases, Stolen Babies, Friar's abuse of power, at iba pa? Hindi lang pangalan ng Iglesia Katolika kundi ang buong Church mismo? Ilang reformation ba kailangan para maisakatuparan ito? Ang Iglesia mo kayang UNIVERSAL ang Iglesiang binabanggit ng bibliya kung saan inialay ni KRISTO ANG KANIYANG BUHAY UPANG:
"...maiharap niya sa kanyang sarili bilang isang maluwalhating iglesya na walang anumang dungis ni kulubot man upang ito ay maging banal at walang kapintasan." Efeso 5:27
ANO SA TINGIN MO MR. CATHOLICDEFENDER2000?
Inialay ni Kristo ang SARILI NIYANG BUHAY (na kinikilala nyong Diyos) para lamang sa Iglesia nyo ngayon na kabaligtaran ng Iglesiang binabanggit ng bibliya sa itaas?
Kasi ako, wala akong hinanakit sa Catholic Church at sa kahit ano pang churches mapa-protestante man o mapa-Iglesia man ni Mr. Soriano, ang ginagawa ko ay dumedepensa lamang, kasabay noon ang paglalahad ng katotohanan sa mga tao.
Tignan nyo po at pansinin ang isa lamang sa mga latest post ng ating kaibigang masyadong iniidolo ang Iglesia ni Cristo (kaya gumawa pa siya ng blog na ang pamagat ay IGLESIA NI CRISTO sa halip na Iglesia Katolika Apostolika Romana) eto po:
Anti-Catholics such as members the Iglesia ni Cristo founded by Felix Manalo in 1914, who proclaimed himself as the "Last Prophet or Messenger" would do everything in their power to PUT DOWN the CHURCH which Christ founded in 33AD. The highly sensationalized and exaggerated Catholic Priests who abused children was among their favorite issue to pin down Catholics from defending the Church which Christ had founded. Perhaps this article below would help them realize that Catholic erring priests were not alone in this shameful sinfulness that had disfigured the Holy Face of Christ (all emphasis are mine).Source: Insurance Journal- The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.The figures released to The Associated Press offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down — the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.Religious groups and victims’ supporters have been keenly interested in the figure ever since the Roman Catholic sex abuse crisis hit five years ago. The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950.Protestant numbers have been harder to come by and are sketchier because the denominations are less centralized than the Catholic church; indeed, many congregations are independent, which makes reporting even more difficult.Some of the only numbers come from three insurance companies — Church Mutual Insurance Co., GuideOne Insurance Co. and Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Co.Together, they insure 165,495 churches and worship centers for liability against child sex abuse and other sexual misconduct, mostly Protestant congregations but a few other faiths as well. They also insure more than 5,500 religious schools, camps and other organizations.The companies represent a large chunk of all U.S. Protestant churches. There are about 224,000 in the U.S., according to the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies, although that number excludes most historically black denominations and some other groups, which account for several thousand congregations.Church Mutual, GuideOne and Brotherhood Mutual each provided statistics on sex abuse claims to The Associated Press, although they did not produce supporting documentation or a way to determine whether the reports were credible.The largest company, Church Mutual, reported an average of about 100 sex abuse cases a year involving minors over the past decade. GuideOne, which has about half the clients of Church Mutual, said it has received an average of 160 reports of sex abuse against minors every year for the past two decades.Brotherhood Mutual said it has received an average of 73 reports of child sex abuse and other sexual misconduct every year for the past 15 years. However, Brotherhood does not specify which victims are younger than 18 so it is impossible to accurately add that to the total cases.Abuse reports do not always mean the accused was guilty, and they do not necessarily result in financial awards or settlements, the companies said. The reports include accusations against clergy, church staff and volunteers.Even with hundreds of cases a year “that’s a very small number. That probably doesn’t even constitute half,” said Gary Schoener, director of the Walk-In Counseling Center in Minneapolis, a consultant on hundreds of Protestant and Catholic clergy misconduct cases. “Sex abuse in any domain, including the church, is reported seldom. We know a small amount actually come forward.”Tom Farr, general counsel and senior vice president of claims for GuideOne, based in West Des Moines, Iowa, said most abuse cases are resolved privately in court-ordered mediation. Awards can range from millions of dollars down to paying for counseling for victims, he said.One of the largest settlements to date in Protestant churches involved the case of former Lutheran minister Gerald Patrick Thomas Jr. in Texas, where a jury several years ago awarded the minister’s victims nearly $37 million (euro28 million). Separate earlier settlements involving Thomas cost an additional $32 million.When insurance companies first started getting reports of abuse from churches nearly two decades ago, the cases usually involved abuse that happened many years earlier. But over the past several years, the alleged abuse is more recent, which could reflect a greater awareness about reporting abuse, insurance companies said.Insurance officials said the number of sex abuse cases has remained steady over the past two decades, but they also said churches are working harder to prevent child sex abuse by conducting background checks, installing windows in nurseries and play areas and requiring at least two adults in a room with a child.A victims’ advocacy group has said the Southern Baptists, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, could do more to prevent abuse by creating a list of accused clergy the public and churches could access.“These are things people are entitled to know,” said Christa Brown, a member of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, who says she was sexually abused as a child by a Southern Baptist minister. “The only way to prevent this crime is to break the code of silence and to have absolute transparency when allegations are raised.”At the Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting in San Antonio this week, the Rev. Wade Burleson proposed a feasibility study into developing a national database of Southern Baptist ministers who have been “credibly accused of, personally confessed to, or legally been convicted of sexual harassment or abuse.”A convention committee referred Burleson’s motion to the SBC executive committee, which will report back with findings and a recommendation at next year’s meeting in Indianapolis.Southern Baptist President Frank Page said leaders are considering several options to help churches protect children against abuse.“We believe that the Scripture teaches that the church should be an autonomous, independent organization,” Page said. “We encourage churches to hold accountable at the local level those who may have misused the trust of precious children and youth.”Several years ago, the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which represents moderates who have increasingly distanced themselves from the conservative-led Southern Baptists, started a list of accused clergy for churches, but not the public. Under pressure from victim advocates, the Texas group just released the names of some convicted sex offenders who may have been ministers in local congregations.Joe Trull, editor of Christian Ethics Today and retired ethics professor at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, helped the Texas convention create its registry and says there are now about 11 cases involving clergy abuse with minors.But he believes these are just the “tip of the iceberg” because churches don’t have to report abuse cases to the registry and aren’t likely to.“The problem we’re having is that churches just weren’t sending the names,” Trull said. “In the normal scenario, they just try to keep it secret. We’re going to have to be more proactive and let them know if they don’t come forward, they’re helping to perpetuate this problem.”source: catholicdefender2000
Sa dinami dami namang ieexample, hinding hindi nawawala sa mga post nya ang pangalang IGLESIA NI CRISTO. Bakit kaya ganun? Obvious tuloy na enemy no.1 niya ang INC, samantalang wala naman sa kanyang ginagawang masama ang Iglesia. Favorite issue daw ang mga Paring Katolikong nangmolestiya ng mga bata.
Wala namang makakatanggi sa KATOTOHANANG iyan, kahit pa mga katoliko at kahit IKAW.
Bakit problemadong problemado ka ata sa katotohanang yan, at bakit special mention ang Iglesia ni Cristo sa post mo? Ibig sabihin ba, MAJORITY ng tumutuligsa sa inyo tungkol sa sex abuse na yan sa buong mundo eh mga INC members? Na lagi mong sinasabi na 2.3% ng populasyon ng Pilipinas?
Akala ko ba sobrang daming nagpepersecute ng church nyo?
At bakit ka nagkowt ng balita tungkol sa sex abuse cases ng Protestant churches?
Sa tingin mo ba Catholicdefender2000 sa ginawa mo MAS NAKAKA ANGAT NA KAYO?
Sa tingin mo ba NALINIS NA ANG KASALANAN NG MGA PARI NYO?
Sa tingin mo ba mas nakabuti na malaman ng mga tao na hindi lang pala Catholic priests ang may sex abuse cases, pati rin pala mga Protestante?
Sa tingin mo ba makakatakas at maaabswelto na kayo sa mga kasalanan ng PARI NYO?
At sa tingin mo ba makakaya pang LINISIN ng Catholic authorities ang pangalan ng Iglesia Katolika sa kabila ng mga kasalanan nito tulad ng Inquisition, Catholic sex abuse cases, Stolen Babies, Friar's abuse of power, at iba pa? Hindi lang pangalan ng Iglesia Katolika kundi ang buong Church mismo? Ilang reformation ba kailangan para maisakatuparan ito? Ang Iglesia mo kayang UNIVERSAL ang Iglesiang binabanggit ng bibliya kung saan inialay ni KRISTO ANG KANIYANG BUHAY UPANG:
"...maiharap niya sa kanyang sarili bilang isang maluwalhating iglesya na walang anumang dungis ni kulubot man upang ito ay maging banal at walang kapintasan." Efeso 5:27
New International Version (©1984)
and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.
New Living Translation (©2007)
He did this to present her to himself as a glorious church without a spot or wrinkle or any other blemish. Instead, she will be holy and without fault.
English Standard Version (©2001)
so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
that He might present to Himself the church in all her glory, having no spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that she would be holy and blameless.
Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
He did this to present the church to Himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or anything like that, but holy and blameless.
International Standard Version (©2012)
and might present the church to himself in all its glory, without a spot or wrinkle or anything of the kind, but holy and without fault.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
And he shall establish the church for himself without blemish or wrinkle, neither any such things whatsoever, but it will be holy and without defect.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Then he could present it to himself as a glorious church, without any kind of stain or wrinkle-holy and without faults.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
American King James Version
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
American Standard Version
that he might present the church to himself a glorious church , not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Douay-Rheims Bible
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any; such thing; but that it should be holy, and without blemish.
Darby Bible Translation
that he might present the assembly to himself glorious, having no spot, or wrinkle, or any of such things; but that it might be holy and blameless.
English Revised Version
that he might present the church to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Webster's Bible Translation
That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Weymouth New Testament
that He might present the Church to Himself a glorious bride, without spot or wrinkle or any other defect, but to be holy and unblemished.
World English Bible
that he might present the assembly to himself gloriously, not having spot or wrinkle or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
Young's Literal Translation
that he might present it to himself the assembly in glory, not having spot or wrinkle, or any of such things, but that it may be holy and unblemished;
source: bible.cc
ANO SA TINGIN MO MR. CATHOLICDEFENDER2000?
Inialay ni Kristo ang SARILI NIYANG BUHAY (na kinikilala nyong Diyos) para lamang sa Iglesia nyo ngayon na kabaligtaran ng Iglesiang binabanggit ng bibliya sa itaas?
November 20, 2012
Pasko: Nasa bibliya letra por letra?
Nakakabigla ang nabasa kong post mula sa blog na "The Splendor of the Church" na mayroong title na "PASKO NASA BIBLIYA LETRA POR LETRA" (take note: naka capital letters pa) na ipinagdiriwang ng mga Katoliko sa buong mundo dahil kinagisnan na nila at naging tradisyon.
Nakakagulat ding malaman na ang author ng article na ito ay si Mr. Marwil Llasos pa mismo, isang abogado, catholic defender at tumatakbong senador para sa nalalapit na eleksyon.
(Nais ko munang sabihin na wala po akong galit o sama ng loob sa kaniya kahit pa kay Mr. Abe na may ari ng blog at sa iba pang catholic defenders, baka sabihin na naman kasi nila na namemersonal ako o kung ano pa man...^^)
Narito po at basahin natin ang post na iyon:
Kitang kita natin na ang PASKWA (tagalog) o PASCUA (spanish) na tinutukoy niya, ay ang ipinagdiriwang ng mga katoliko tuwing Dec. 25 na tinatawag na PASKO. (Tignan sa mga larawan sa itaas)
Ngunit ayon sa aking pagreresearch, ang PASKWA at PASKO ay magkaiba, hindi lang sa spelling kundi sa ibig sabihin. Dahil ang PASKWA ay PASSOVER sa english, at ang PASKO naman ay CHRISTMAS.
Ayon kay wikipedia:
Isa pang dapat nating malaman, na ang PASKWA o PASSOVER ay isang JEWISH FESTIVAL, ito ang tinutukoy sa mga kinowt na verses sa bible, ang Juan 12:1 at Juan 13:1, at hindi PASKO na CHRISTMAS na pinagdiriwang tuwing DEC. 25, mga maling salin lang ng bibliya ang mga iyon.
John 12:1
John 13:1
Kaya isang MALAKING KASINUNGALINGAN na mayroong salitang CHRISTMAS o PASKO (hindi PASSOVER) sa BIBLIYA. Wala pong koneksyon ang CHRISTMAS sa PASSOVER:
Teka, baka naman may magsabi na ang salitang PASKWA ay pwede ring maging PASKO sa tagalog, hindi na po ako magbibigay ng opinyon, tignan na lang po natin sa dictionary:
Marami nga pala talagang ibig sabihin ng PASKWA, pwede itong tumukong sa EASTER ng mga Katoliko, pwede rin sa PASSOVER na isang Jewish festival, at iba pa.
Ngunit teka, marami rin kasi ang napagkakamaliang ang PASKWA at PASKO ay IISA, at kahit ito ay magkaiba, ang salitang PASKO ay nanggaling pala sa salitang PASKWA, kaya siguro marami rin ang nalilito dito:
PAGLILINAW: ang PASCUA daw po ay Easter ang ibig sabihin, ang "PASCUA DE NAVIDAD" naman na phrase ay Christmas ang ibig sabihin.
Balik tayo sa selebrasyon ng CHRISTMAS.
Wala rin naman kasing makakapagpatunay na nagcecelebrate ang mga APOSTOL at ang Iglesia ni Cristo noong unang siglo ng PASKO tuwing Dec. 25 dahil kung pagbabasihan ang HISTORY, noon lamang 3rd century naimbento, isinagawa at nagsimulang madevelop ang okasyong ito:
Ito po ay hindi namin gawa gawa, kahit kayo pa mismo ang magsearch nito sa internet at sa kahit saang library at lalong lalo na hindi po ito PANINIRA sa Iglesia Katolika, kundi isang katotohanan.
Ngayon naman, isa bang KASINUNGALINGAN naming mga INC members kung sasabihin namin na ang pagdiriwang ng CHRISTMAS tuwing DEC.25 kasabay ng mga practices at traditions na nakapaloob nito ay nahaluan at nagmula sa mga PAGANO?
Ayon kay wikipedia:
Samantalang alam naman nating lahat ang kautusan galing sa bibliya:
Wala naman kaming pakialam kung nagcecelerate ang mga Katoliko sa buong mundo ng CHRISTMAS, naiintindihan naman namin yon dahil naging KULTURA at TRADISYON na ito sa ibat ibang mga bansa sa buong mundo. Ang sa amin lang, nagpapaalala lang kami na KAYA KAMI HINDI NAGCECELEBRATE ng CHRISTMAS ay dahil sa mga kadahilanang:
1. Wala sa bibliya at hindi iniutos sa bibliya.
2. Hindi rin ipinagdiwang ng mga apostol at ng Iglesia noong unang siglo dahil noong 3rd century lang naimbento.
3. Galing sa mga pagano ibang mga practices at traditions na nakapaloob dito.
4. Hindi kami naniniwala na Dec.25 ngang talaga ang kapanganakan ni Kristo.
5. Ang history ng CHRISTMAS tuwing DEC. 25 ay napakalaki ng koneksyon sa mga pista ng pagano.
At higit sa lahat, LABAG SA ARAL NG DIYOS.
Catholic Defender at PRIEST VS. Catholic Defender
Bihira lang din mangyari ito, na ang isang Catholic defender at ang isang PARI ay kontrahin ng isang Catholic Defender, nakakatuwa naman, isa kasi itong laban sa pagitan ni Mr. Marwil Llasos, Mr. Abe at Catholicdefender2000.
Paano ko ito nasabi?
Dahil ayon kay Mr. Llasos at Mr. Abe (na nagbaghagi ng kontribusyon sa post), ang binabanggit daw na PASKWA sa bibliya: Juan 12:1 at juan 13:1 ay PASKO--> yung cinecelebrate tuwing Dec. 25 (makikita rin ang larawan sa itaas), ngunit ayon naman kay Mr. Catholicdefender2000:
Sabi niya, ang PASKO daw is NOT ABOUT (PASKWA) THE JEWISH PASSOVER dahil ito daw ay CHRISTMAS.
YES, CORRECT Mr. Catholicdefender2000, nice!
Kaya ang masasabi ko lang, mga pang gradeschool na utak lang ang maniniwala sa paraan ng pagpapaliwanag nila tungkol dito. Ang nakakatuwa pa nito, para lang "mapatunayan" kuno na may salitang PASKO sa bibliya, hayan at gumawa ng mga kalokohan para mapaniwala ang mga taong madaling mauto.
At muntik na kong masama sa mga nauto na yun. hahahaha! lol.
Mabuti na lang at nagreresearch ako PARA SA KATOTOHANAN,
para di na madayang muli pa ang IBA.
Madalas sabihin ng mga followers ni Mr. Abe sa kaniyang blog na wala daw ka sense sense ang mga paliwanag ko, pang bata daw, pero sino nga kaya? sino kaya ang gumagawa ng mga bagay tulad ng pagpapababa ng CREDIBILIDAD para lang mandaya ng iba?
Nakakagulat ding malaman na ang author ng article na ito ay si Mr. Marwil Llasos pa mismo, isang abogado, catholic defender at tumatakbong senador para sa nalalapit na eleksyon.
(Nais ko munang sabihin na wala po akong galit o sama ng loob sa kaniya kahit pa kay Mr. Abe na may ari ng blog at sa iba pang catholic defenders, baka sabihin na naman kasi nila na namemersonal ako o kung ano pa man...^^)
Narito po at basahin natin ang post na iyon:
The Birth of the MessiahTanong:
bkt ayaw mo abe tanggapin na ang pasko o paskua ay pampagano.
ang pagano ay ngdiriwang na cla na dec 25.
ang pinagdiriwang nila ay ang dakilang araw na diyos nila.
ngaun bkt nyo inilagay sa dec 25 ang kapanganakan ng manunubos?
Sagot:
Ang PASKO daw o PASCUA ay sa pagano? Sinong tanga ang niloloko ng INC na ito? Eh kung mabasa ko sa Biblia LETRA por LETRA na may PASKO?
Eto o ang linaw linaw! Mga illiterate lamang na INC ang hindi marunong bumasa."Anim araw bago sumapit ang PASKO ng mga Judio, nagpunta si Jesus sa Betania, sa bahay ni Lazaro na binuhay Niya mula sa mga patay" (Jn. 12:1, ABS - Ang Buhay na Salita).
Di naman pala sa pagano galing. Ang linaw linaw eh. Pasko ng mg Judio ang binabanggit hindi Pasko ng mga pagano. Sinungaling talaga itong mga INC sa Biblia. Baka nakukulangan pa ng sitas. Dagdagan pa natin."Bisperas noon ng PASKO ng mga Judio. Alam ni Jesus na dumating na ang oras para umalis Siya sa mundong ito at bumalik sa Ama. Mahal Niya ang mga sariling Kanya na nasa mundo - at minahal Niya sila hanggang wakas" (Juan 13:1, ABS).O ngayon, sino ang niloloko niyo mga INC? Huwag tatanga-tanga para hindi kayo laging nagogoyo ng mga ministro ninyong mga patutot.
Dagdag ni Fr. Abe, CRS
PAHIYA ANG MANOLISTA... ETO PA PARA SA IYONG KALIGAYAHAN:Juan 12:1 "Unom ka adlaw sa wala pa ANG PASKO, si Jesus miabut sa Betania, diin didto si Lazaro, ang gibanhaw ni Jesus gikan sa mga patay." [ANG BIBLIA - Pinadayag (Cebuano)ITO NAMAN MAS MATINDI TALAGANG FIESTA NG PASKO. BASA:Juan 13:1 "Ug sa wala pa ANG FIESTA SA PASKO, si Jesus nahibalo nga nahiabut na ang takna sa iyang pagbiya niining kalibutana ug pag-adto sa Amahan. Ug sanglit nahigugma man siya sa mga iya nga ania sa kalibutan, sila iyang gihigugma hangtud sa katapusan." [ANG BIBLIA - Pinadayag (Cebuano)]
TALAGANG FIESTA ANG PASKO.
NGAYON, KUNG HINDI KA BA NAMAN TANGA TALAGA MANOLISTANG PULPOL PATI BA NAMAN PASCUA AY TINAWAG MONG PAGANO. E DI MAS PINAKITA MO ANG IYONG KAMANGMANGAN SA BANAL NA KASULATAN. ETO BASA MGA KAPATID:JUAN 12:1 "Jesús, pues, seis dÃas antes de la Pascua, vino a Betania, donde Lázaro habÃa sido muerto, al cual Jesús habÃa resucitado de los muertos." [SPANISH SAGRADAS ESCRITURAS -SSE]
JUAN 13:1 "Antes del dÃa de la Fiesta de la Pascua, sabiendo Jesús que su hora habÃa venido para que pasase de este mundo al Padre, como habÃa amado a los suyos que estaban en el mundo, los amó hasta el fin." [SSE]
TI SANTA BIBLIA [ILOCANO]:JUAN 12:1 "Ni Jesus ngarud innem nga aldaw iti casangoanan ti pascua, napan idiay Betania, isu nga yan idi ni Lazaro, a pinagungar ni Jesus cadagiti natay."ANG BIBLIA [HILIGAYNON]:
JUAN 13:1 "Ket casangoanan ti rambac ti pascua, idi nga ammo ni Jesus a ti horasna dimtengen tapno manipud itoy lubong umalis ken Ama, idinto nga inayatna dagiti taona nga addada ditoy lubong idi, inayatna ida agingga iti panungpalan."JUAN 13:1 "Karon sa wala pa ang piesta sang Pascua, si Jesus nga nakahibalo nga nag-abut na ang iya takna nga magtaliwan sia sining kalibutan pakadto sa Amay, sang nakahigugma sang mga iya nga yari sa kalibutan, ginhigugma niya sila tubtub sa katapusan."
JUAN 12:1 "Sang anum ka adlaw sa wala pa ang Pascua nag-abut si Jesus sa Betania, diin si Lazaro, nga ginbanhaw ni Jesus."
MARHAY NA BARETA [BICOL]:JUAN 12:1 "Anom na aldaw bago an Paskwa, nag-abot si Jesus sa Betania, an banwaan ni Lazaro, an tawong binuhay niya liwat."GALING PALA SA PAGANO. ANG PASCUA O PASKWA O PASKO AY GALING SA GREEK NA PASCHA ANG PISTANG IPINAGDIRIWANG NI JESUS AT NG MGA ALAGAD.
JUAN 13:1 "Bisperas na kan Pyesta nin Paskwa. Aram ni Jesus na nag-abot na an oras na mahale siya digdi sa kinaban tanganing magbalik sa Ama. Namomotan niyang danay an saiyang mga pinili na uya sa kinaban; namotan niya sinda sagkod sa kataposan."
Kitang kita natin na ang PASKWA (tagalog) o PASCUA (spanish) na tinutukoy niya, ay ang ipinagdiriwang ng mga katoliko tuwing Dec. 25 na tinatawag na PASKO. (Tignan sa mga larawan sa itaas)
Ngunit ayon sa aking pagreresearch, ang PASKWA at PASKO ay magkaiba, hindi lang sa spelling kundi sa ibig sabihin. Dahil ang PASKWA ay PASSOVER sa english, at ang PASKO naman ay CHRISTMAS.
Ayon kay wikipedia:
Ang Paskwa, Paskua, o Paskuwa (Inggles: Passover) ay isang kapistahang Kristyano.
Ipinagdiriwang nito ang pagkakaligtas ng mga Ebreo mula sa Ehipto. Nagmula ang pangalan nitong Kapistahan ng Tinapay na Walang Pampaalsa sa pagsasagawa ng hindi paggamit ng pampaalsa o lebadura sa paggawa ng tinapay sa loob ng linggong ito. Isinasagawa ito mula ika-15 hanggang ika-22 araw sa buwan ng Nisan, na nasa unang mga linggo ng Abril. Sa Bibliya, matatagpuan ito sa Kabanata 13 ng Aklat ng Eksodo.
Isa pang dapat nating malaman, na ang PASKWA o PASSOVER ay isang JEWISH FESTIVAL, ito ang tinutukoy sa mga kinowt na verses sa bible, ang Juan 12:1 at Juan 13:1, at hindi PASKO na CHRISTMAS na pinagdiriwang tuwing DEC. 25, mga maling salin lang ng bibliya ang mga iyon.
John 12:1
New International Version (©1984)
Six days before the Passover, Jesus arrived at Bethany, where Lazarus lived, whom Jesus had raised from the dead.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Six days before the Passover celebration began, Jesus arrived in Bethany, the home of Lazarus--the man he had raised from the dead.
English Standard Version (©2001)
Six days before the Passover, Jesus therefore came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Jesus, therefore, six days before the Passover, came to Bethany where Lazarus was, whom Jesus had raised from the dead.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
International Standard Version (©2008)
Six days before the Passover, Jesus arrived in Bethany, where Lazarus lived, the man whom Jesus had raised from the dead.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But Yeshua came to Bethany before the six days of the Passover, where Lazar was, whom Yeshua had raised from the grave.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Six days before Passover, Jesus arrived in Bethany. Lazarus, whom Jesus had brought back to life, lived there.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was who had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
American King James Version
Then Jesus six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, which had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
American Standard Version
Jesus therefore six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, whom Jesus raised from the dead.
Douay-Rheims Bible
JESUS therefore, six days before the pasch, came to Bethania, where Lazarus had been dead, whom Jesus raised to life.
Darby Bible Translation
Jesus therefore, six days before the passover, came to Bethany, where was the dead man Lazarus, whom Jesus raised from among the dead.
English Revised Version
Jesus therefore six days before the passover came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, whom Jesus raised from the dead.
Webster's Bible Translation
Then Jesus, six days before the passover, came to Bethany, where Lazarus was who had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
Weymouth New Testament
Jesus, however, six days before the Passover, came to Bethany, where Lazarus was whom He had raised from the dead.
World English Bible
Then six days before the Passover, Jesus came to Bethany, where Lazarus was, who had been dead, whom he raised from the dead.
Young's Literal Translation
Jesus, therefore, six days before the passover, came to Bethany, where was Lazarus, who had died, whom he raised out of the dead;
source: bible.cc
John 13:1
New International Version (©1984)
It was just before the Passover Feast. Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he now showed them the full extent of his love.
New Living Translation (©2007)
Before the Passover celebration, Jesus knew that his hour had come to leave this world and return to his Father. He had loved his disciples during his ministry on earth, and now he loved them to the very end.
English Standard Version (©2001)
Now before the Feast of the Passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come to depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
Now before the Feast of the Passover, Jesus knowing that His hour had come that He would depart out of this world to the Father, having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
International Standard Version (©2008)
Now before the Passover Festival, Jesus realized that his hour had come to leave this world and return to the Father. Having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
But before the feast of the Passover, Yeshua had known that the hour had arrived that he would depart from this world to his Father, and he loved his own who were in this world and until the end he loved them.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
Before the Passover festival, Jesus knew that the time had come for him to leave this world and go back to the Father. Jesus loved his own who were in the world, and he loved them to the end.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour had come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
American King James Version
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them to the end.
American Standard Version
Now before the feast of the passover, Jesus knowing that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto his Father, having loved his own that were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Douay-Rheims Bible
BEFORE the festival day of the pasch, Jesus knowing that his hour was come, that he should pass out of this world to the Father: having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Darby Bible Translation
Now before the feast of the passover, Jesus, knowing that his hour had come that he should depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, loved them to the end.
English Revised Version
Now before the feast of the passover, Jesus knowing that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own which were in the world, he loved them unto the end.
Webster's Bible Translation
Now before the feast of the passover, when Jesus knew that his hour was come that he should depart out of this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.
Weymouth New Testament
Now just before the Feast of the Passover this incident took place. Jesus knew that the time had come for Him to leave this world and go to the Father; and having loved His own who were in the world, He loved them to the end.
World English Bible
Now before the feast of the Passover, Jesus, knowing that his time had come that he would depart from this world to the Father, having loved his own who were in the world, he loved them to the end.
Young's Literal Translation
And before the feast of the passover, Jesus knowing that his hour hath come, that he may remove out of this world unto the Father, having loved his own who are in the world -- to the end he loved them.
source: bible.cc
Kaya isang MALAKING KASINUNGALINGAN na mayroong salitang CHRISTMAS o PASKO (hindi PASSOVER) sa BIBLIYA. Wala pong koneksyon ang CHRISTMAS sa PASSOVER:
What are the differences of Christmas and Passover?
Answer 1
It's much easier to answer this question by saying that there is no similarity whatsoever, between the concepts or practice of the Christian Christmas and the Jewish Passover. So I'll let you come up with your own list of features and characteristics, and I'll tell you right now that according to every one of those, the two are different.
Answer 2
Easter has a connection to Passover in that "the Last Supper" was a Passover Seder and occurred not long before the Crucifixion. Christmas, however, is entirely unrelated to Passover.
source: wiki.answer.com
Teka, baka naman may magsabi na ang salitang PASKWA ay pwede ring maging PASKO sa tagalog, hindi na po ako magbibigay ng opinyon, tignan na lang po natin sa dictionary:
PASKWA o PASKUWA o PASKUA
alternate spellings in different Tagalog Bibles: Paskuwa, Paskua
from the Spanish Pascua, meaning EasterPaskwa
Easter, Eastertide
Easter seasonPaskwa
Passover, the Jewish festival celebrating the Exodus from slavery in Egypt
Araw ng Paskwa
Easter DayLinggo ng Pagkabuhay
Easter Sunday ("Resurrection Sunday")Pasko ng Pagkabuhay
Easter ("Feast of the Resurrection")Kordero ng Paskua
Passover LambHapunang Pampaskuwa / Hapunang Pampaskwa
Passover Meal / Passover Dinner / Passover SederThe Filipino word paskwa also refers to the poinsettia, a flower associated with Christmas season (Pascua being a metaphorical Spanish word for Christmas).source: tagaloglang.com
Marami nga pala talagang ibig sabihin ng PASKWA, pwede itong tumukong sa EASTER ng mga Katoliko, pwede rin sa PASSOVER na isang Jewish festival, at iba pa.
Ngunit teka, marami rin kasi ang napagkakamaliang ang PASKWA at PASKO ay IISA, at kahit ito ay magkaiba, ang salitang PASKO ay nanggaling pala sa salitang PASKWA, kaya siguro marami rin ang nalilito dito:
"The Tagalog word Pasko derives from the Spanish word Pascua. Although the word Pascua means Easter, Pascua de Navidad refers to Christmas."
source: tagaloglang.com
PAGLILINAW: ang PASCUA daw po ay Easter ang ibig sabihin, ang "PASCUA DE NAVIDAD" naman na phrase ay Christmas ang ibig sabihin.
Balik tayo sa selebrasyon ng CHRISTMAS.
Wala rin naman kasing makakapagpatunay na nagcecelebrate ang mga APOSTOL at ang Iglesia ni Cristo noong unang siglo ng PASKO tuwing Dec. 25 dahil kung pagbabasihan ang HISTORY, noon lamang 3rd century naimbento, isinagawa at nagsimulang madevelop ang okasyong ito:
"The earliest evidence of the celebration on December 25 of a Christian liturgical feast of the birth of Jesus is from the Chronography of 354 AD.
This was in Rome, while in Eastern Christianity the birth of Jesus was already celebrated in connection with the Epiphany on January 6. The December 25 celebration was imported into the East later: in Antioch by John Chrysostom towards the end of the 4th century, probably in 388, and in Alexandria only in the following century. Even in the West, the January 6 celebration of the nativity of Jesus seems to have continued until after 380."
source: wikipedia
Ito po ay hindi namin gawa gawa, kahit kayo pa mismo ang magsearch nito sa internet at sa kahit saang library at lalong lalo na hindi po ito PANINIRA sa Iglesia Katolika, kundi isang katotohanan.
Ngayon naman, isa bang KASINUNGALINGAN naming mga INC members kung sasabihin namin na ang pagdiriwang ng CHRISTMAS tuwing DEC.25 kasabay ng mga practices at traditions na nakapaloob nito ay nahaluan at nagmula sa mga PAGANO?
Ayon kay wikipedia:
"Many popular customs associated with Christmas developed independently of the commemoration of Jesus' birth, with certain elements having origins in pre-Christian festivals that were celebrated around the winter solstice by pagan populations who were later converted to Christianity.
These elements, including the Yule log from Yule and gift giving from Saturnalia, became syncretized into Christmas over the centuries. The prevailing atmosphere of Christmas has also continually evolved since the holiday's inception, ranging from a sometimes raucous, drunken, carnival-like state in the Middle Ages, to a tamer family-oriented and children-centered theme introduced in a 19th-century reformation. Additionally, the celebration of Christmas was banned on more than one occasion within Protestant Christendom due to concerns that it was too pagan or unbiblical."
source: wikipedia
Samantalang alam naman nating lahat ang kautusan galing sa bibliya:
“In particular, I want to urge you in the name of the lord, not to on living the aimless kind of life that pagans live. Intellectually they are in the dark, and they are estranged from the life of God, without knowledge because they have shut their hearts to it.” Eph. 4:17-18, Jerusalem bible
Wala naman kaming pakialam kung nagcecelerate ang mga Katoliko sa buong mundo ng CHRISTMAS, naiintindihan naman namin yon dahil naging KULTURA at TRADISYON na ito sa ibat ibang mga bansa sa buong mundo. Ang sa amin lang, nagpapaalala lang kami na KAYA KAMI HINDI NAGCECELEBRATE ng CHRISTMAS ay dahil sa mga kadahilanang:
1. Wala sa bibliya at hindi iniutos sa bibliya.
2. Hindi rin ipinagdiwang ng mga apostol at ng Iglesia noong unang siglo dahil noong 3rd century lang naimbento.
3. Galing sa mga pagano ibang mga practices at traditions na nakapaloob dito.
4. Hindi kami naniniwala na Dec.25 ngang talaga ang kapanganakan ni Kristo.
5. Ang history ng CHRISTMAS tuwing DEC. 25 ay napakalaki ng koneksyon sa mga pista ng pagano.
At higit sa lahat, LABAG SA ARAL NG DIYOS.
Catholic Defender at PRIEST VS. Catholic Defender
Bihira lang din mangyari ito, na ang isang Catholic defender at ang isang PARI ay kontrahin ng isang Catholic Defender, nakakatuwa naman, isa kasi itong laban sa pagitan ni Mr. Marwil Llasos, Mr. Abe at Catholicdefender2000.
Paano ko ito nasabi?
Dahil ayon kay Mr. Llasos at Mr. Abe (na nagbaghagi ng kontribusyon sa post), ang binabanggit daw na PASKWA sa bibliya: Juan 12:1 at juan 13:1 ay PASKO--> yung cinecelebrate tuwing Dec. 25 (makikita rin ang larawan sa itaas), ngunit ayon naman kay Mr. Catholicdefender2000:
"For the information of those English speaking people reading this blog, PASKO is popularly known feast in the Philippines and it's not about the Jewish Passover holidays but it's CHRISTMAS (Pasko ng Pagkabuhay) although appropriately, it's more correct to use the word "Pasko" for "Easter" (Pasko ng Pagkabuhay)."
source: In defense of the Church
Sabi niya, ang PASKO daw is NOT ABOUT (PASKWA) THE JEWISH PASSOVER dahil ito daw ay CHRISTMAS.
YES, CORRECT Mr. Catholicdefender2000, nice!
Kaya ang masasabi ko lang, mga pang gradeschool na utak lang ang maniniwala sa paraan ng pagpapaliwanag nila tungkol dito. Ang nakakatuwa pa nito, para lang "mapatunayan" kuno na may salitang PASKO sa bibliya, hayan at gumawa ng mga kalokohan para mapaniwala ang mga taong madaling mauto.
At muntik na kong masama sa mga nauto na yun. hahahaha! lol.
Mabuti na lang at nagreresearch ako PARA SA KATOTOHANAN,
para di na madayang muli pa ang IBA.
Madalas sabihin ng mga followers ni Mr. Abe sa kaniyang blog na wala daw ka sense sense ang mga paliwanag ko, pang bata daw, pero sino nga kaya? sino kaya ang gumagawa ng mga bagay tulad ng pagpapababa ng CREDIBILIDAD para lang mandaya ng iba?
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