Ang Iglesia ni Cristo at freedom of speech

 

Marami ang nagsasabi ngayon at ginagawa pang atake ng Iglesia ni Mr. Soriano, ang MCGI at ng mga Katoliko ang isyu tungkol sa pagsampa ng kaso ng INC sa libro ni Mr. Tipon na "The Power and the Glory: The Cult of Manalo" na masasabi kong expected na ang resulta na mabigo ang kaso dahil nga makapangyarihan ngang talaga ang "freedom of speech/expression"

Tanong: Wala bang FREEDOM at RIGHTS ang INC na magsampa ng kaso at iexpress ang saloobin nito tungkol sa libro ni Mr. Tipon?

Hindi ba makatarungan  kung sabihin man ng lawyer ng INC ang mga katagang ito:

"The publication of the criminal manuscript will trigger social unrest," he said. "Millions of people may come out in the streets and this may lead to violence." The book contains allegations based on hearsay and insinuations against the INC that could trigger protest among millions of church members nationwide,"

source: philstar.com

Kung ang libro ay naglalaman ng masasabi nating kasinungalingan, exaggeration at bias, hindi ba katanggap tanggap kung sabihin man ng INC na ang libro ay "blasphemous"  at kung ito ay pinaniniwalaang pagsira sa imahe ng INC at pati na rin ni Ka Felix? Isa ba itong pagkitil sa FREEDOM OF SPEECH?

Kung gayon, bakit binigyan ng X RATING dati ng MTRCB ang programang "Ang Iglesia ni Cristo" noong nag aair ito sa Abs Cbn at iba pang local tv stations? Hindi bat pagkitil ito hindi lang ng freedom of speech kundi pati ng exercise of religious freedom etc.?

Sinasabing dahil daw inaatake ng mga panelist nito ang ibang religion tulad ng  Catholic Church at mga Protestante, pero kung manonood ka naman kahit 1 episode ng tv program na ito, hanggang ngayon ganon pa rin naman ang set up at takbo ng programa, hindi naman nito totally inaatake yun bang personal ang mga Protestante at mga Katoliko kundi dinidiscuss lang ang magkakaibang paniniwala at kinukumpara sa paniniwala ng Iglesia ni Cristo sa pamamagitan HINDI NG OPINYON, kundi ng bibliya.

Kung ikukumpara nga natin ang ginagawa ni Mr. Soriano sa mga programa niya di hamak naman na mas matindi ang mga pinagsasasabi niya at talaga namang napaka offensive lalo na at pinepersonal niya ang marami, tanong, binigyan ba ang mga programa niya ng X RATING?

Bukod pa ito sa mga pagmumura niya o pagsasabi ng mga di akmang pananalita lalot naturingan pa itong RELIGIOUS PROGRAM at pinagmamalaki pang nakahakot ng ibat ibang awards.

Tanong: Iglesia ni Cristo lamang ba ang may sitwasyon na nangyari ang ganito?

E ano ba ang ginawa ng MCGI ni Mr. Soriano sa programa ng dati nyang kanang kamay na si Mr. Willy Santiago sa programa niyang "Biblical Issues: Suriin natin" na dating napapanood sa IBC 13? Di bat sinampahan ng kaso sa MTRCB, hindi pa nakuntento at sinampahan pa siya at ng kapatid niyang si Mr. Warlee Santiago ng libel sa korte?  Hindi ba ito pagkitil sa freedom of speech?

(Sayang at nawala na ang website ng "Biblical issues" nabasa ko dati ang tungkol doon sayang at hindi ko naipost agad.)

 E ano naman kaya ang ginawa ng Vatican tungkol sa pelikulang "The Da Vinci Code"? Hindi ba ito pagkitil sa freedom of speech?

Marami na ang libro na ANTI-INC ngunit hindi naman sinampahan ng kaso, nagkataon lang na siguroy malala ang mga nakasaad sa libro ni Mr. Tipon, title pa nga lang ay offensive na para sa aming mga miyembro pati na sa Iglesia, paano pa kaya ang nilalaman nito?

Sinasabi na "takot" DAW ang INC na mabunyag ang katotohanan kaya ayaw ipapublish ang libro, alin naman kayang KATOTOHANAN iyon? Ilang libro na ang naipublish, bukod ba sa mga exaggerated na nilalaman ng mga ito, meron pa bang iba pang nakalap na impormasyon na KAILANGAN malaman ng mga tao?

Obvious naman ang sagot. I believe 90% ng nilalaman non na mga "katotohanan" kuno na kailangan malaman ng marami ay nakalagay na rin sa ibang libro at nabasa na sa mga pahayagan at pati sa internet. At ngayon, available ito sa mga bookstores sa Baguio, ano pa bang nirereklamo ng mga di mapigilang mainggit sa INC?

May masabi lang?

Para may pang atake?


Isa lang ang masasabi ko, ang bababaw nila!

New Philippine Arena pushes boundaries of Arena Design 2

Situated on a green field site north of Manila, the Arena is of a scale not previously seen before in the
Philippines. It has been master planned to enable 50,000 people to gather inside the building and a
further 50,000 to gather at a “live site” outside the arena, to share in major events. It will not only
hold major church gatherings, it will also operate as a multi-use sports and concert venue, capable of
holding a range of events from boxing and basketball to live music performances. The overall vision of the masterplan will eventually see inclusion of shopping centres, a hospital and large scale
residential developments.

DESIGN CHALLENGES PRESENTED BY THE SCALE OF THE ARENA:

The one- sided 50,000 seating bowl focuses at a central arena floor. The bowl is split into two main
tiers, a lower tier and an upper tier, both seating approximately 25,000 people.

The scale of the building is so vast it created a series of technical difficulties not previously seen
before in the Philippines according to project architect Ron Van Sluijs.

“It is difficult to have 50,000 people with one focal point, and give everyone a good view as well as a
sense of atmosphere and inclusion. The bowl shape helps achieve this. It is a very tight compact
structure, but it is also gracious, with its saddle bowl form, high in the centre and dropping down at
the flanks. Strategically placed video boards also help create atmosphere and enabling people to view
all the action.”

Another challenge was to ensure the arena never felt empty, and retained its sense of intimacy. The
lower bowl will be the most frequently used part of the building and the design allows for easy
separation of the lower tier from the upper tier by the use of a curtain hung from the roof soffit, with
both acoustic and thermal properties. However, during a major religious festival or celebration, the
upper bowl can be opened up and fully utilised.

A series of precast vomitories, set at regular intervals around the bowl, provide access from the outer
concourses onto the seating tiers. There are clear sightlines from every seat on each tier, even for
various arena configurations such as church ceremonies, boxing, tennis, concerts or indoor
gymnastics.

Even so, in normal operational mode of 25,000 people, it is still a very large crowd for an indoor
arena, especially as space has been allowed for a 2,000 person choir to be seated behind the stage
area opposite the main seating bowl. This meant major changing rooms for a start. The solution here
has been to design changing rooms that can be built in modules, allowing the capacity of the change
rooms to change to suit the required needs.

Circulation issues become an even bigger challenge when the arena is at capacity, to make certain
such a large number of people arrive at the main entrance, and move to their seats simply, quickly
and safely, avoiding a build up of huge crowds at the front door. The solution has been to separate
people immediately as they enter the front door into a split lower concourse through the use of
signage. The separation zone is utilised as the food and beverage area. People moving to the Upper
Tier are directed into Zone 1, where they travel via staircases to the upper concourse; those seated in
the Lower Tier are directed into Zone 2.

Consideration also had to be given to make certain the arena was comfortable. 50,000 people in a
fully enclosed building is a large crowd, and combined with Manila’s humid , tropical climate meant
that special measures had to be undertaken to ensure the arena was adequately ventilated. The
arena is fully air-conditioned, and the required plant space had major effect on the floor planning.

A further challenge was to design a roof spanning over 150 meters, across such a large tier structure.
This meant solving the issue of how to construct such a large structure in a country with little
construction experience in building large span roofs. The solution was to bring in outside specialist
expertise in large scale construction through the Korean construction company Hanwha Engineering
and Construction, as well as embarking on a local education programme.

An additional major design issue was the highly seismic location of the site. The size, the weight and
the height of the venue meant extraordinary engineering measures had to be introduced to ensure
make the arena earthquake proof. These included introducing seismic dissipaters (rubber shock
absorbers) at the first level to dampen the seismic acceleration, and building a large number of shear
walls to transfer the horizontal loading

ARENA DESIGN:

The arena itself is comprised of a number of interrelated elements. The first is the building’s podium
– a plinth which raises the building, ensuring the building’s curvaceous form can be seen from afar.

The second element is the lower foyer. This light, open concourse welcomes arena visitors and
creates a seamless flow between the building and its surroundings.

The third, and one of the most prominent architectural elements, is the central band of louvers
encircling the exterior of the arena’s primary elevation. These vibrant louvers provide both character
and a pragmatic solution as a translucent ventilating veil around the façade.

The arena’s fourth element is the significant yet delicately detailed steel structure which supports
the upper bowl and roof. While these structural elements may be impressive in size, the articulation
and curbed repetition of the triangulated props create delicate filigree – crowning the arena building
and complimenting the band of louvers below.

The arena’s floating shell-like roof completes the architecture. It’s sharply articulated edges and
supple form creates a strong and immediately identifiable silhouette for the building.

AN ADAPTABLE SPACE:

Three areas of temporary or retractable seating have been incorporated into the bowl design. The
first is 2000 seats of retractable seating behind the ‘stage’ which folds into itself and stores away in a
floor pit. The tier itself can be adjusted in height to optimise sightlines for various usages of the arena
floor. The second area is up to 1500 loose seating, which can be accommodated on the main arena
floor in front of a stage setting. Thirdly, two sections of retractable seating are located in the lower
tier corners. In retracted mode, the gained area allows for a larger field of play.

ARENA PLANNING:

The arena rises up four levels.

Level 1 has the stage floor, including the back of house performer dress rooms. Level 2 is the main
access level for the general public. Level 3 is an intermediate VIP level. It is limited to a section in the middle of the building however can be expanded in the future. This level can be accessed from the VIP lobby in the basement or at the main entry on level 2 by dedicated VIP lifts. It has suites facing the auditorium and multipurpose conference rooms facing the main plaza. The central lobby at level 3 can be used as a memorial space. Level 4 is the upper concourse and provides access to the upper bowl through various vomitories.

A LAYERED FACADE:

All but the eastern façade of the arena are very open. The façade allows for natural ventilation deep
into the building and views out onto the site from the main circulation concourses, while maintaining
a clear demarcation around the building perimeter. The objectives are achieved with a metallic
perforated louvered screen hung from the slab edges. The screen aligns with the concourses, raps
around the vertical circulation and its density is reduced towards the rear of the building. Colour on
the screens provides added interest and warmth.

Centrally located above the main entry of the plaza, and in between the louvered screens, is a glazed
screen. This glazed screen works as a marker over the main entry and allows uninterrupted views
from the VIP level over the main plaza in front of the building. It consist of staggered toughened glass panes fixed in position by standardised brackets fixed of an elegant steel frame forming a three
dimensional effect.

The overhanging roof edge over the façade is intended to provide an ending to the roof cladding and
a crisp, sharp and flush metallic edged returning down to the back of the bowl.

The venue at Ciudad de Victoria will be the world’s largest indoor arena. It has a construction value of AUD $200M, and has been commissioned by Iglesia Ni Cristo (the Church of Christ) to be completed in time for the Church’s Centennial Celebration in 2014. Populous has designed the arena with engineers Buro Happold and construction will be carried out by Hanwha Engineering and Construction Corp. 

by Populous

source: architecture and sport.com

Church News: October 2012

The Overbrook Park Civic Association orchestrated a Saturday community cleanup event in late September continuing its efforts to beautify the Rose Playground and the surrounding area.

Angela Hall-Morris, treasurer of the Overbrook Park Civic Association, organized this beautification event for this organization founded more than 30 years ago that now has more than 200 members.

“The purpose of the Overbrook Park Civic Association is to gather all the people that live in Overbrook Park so we can unify the neighborhood and beautify the neighborhood, provide resources for the people in the neighborhood and to make Overbrook Park a wonderful place to live,” Hall-Morris said.
The beautification event got off to a slow start with just Hall-Morris and a few other volunteers in gardening gloves picking up trash and scattered leaves in a mostly empty playground. But before long more help arrived.

Shortly after 9 that morning members of the Iglesia Ni Cristo Church Giving Project arrived willing to help. They even brought their own film crew to document the event and encourage other similar projects.

Members of this church, coming from locations as far as New York and Delaware, take pride in assisting neighborhood groups to renovate and clean parks and playgrounds. The Giving Project group was founded in 2011 and it’s self-proclaimed mission, according to the group’s Facebook page, aims to “extend the presence of the Iglesia Ni Cristo members to its community partners by supporting their efforts to provide solutions to help families succeed and achieve.”

Joy Bandolon, a Giving Project member and Aston, Pa resident, said, “We get in touch with different community organizations to reach out, and we try our very best to share and help. It’s our way of sharing our faith because that’s what Christians do, we help out.”

After the church members arrived volunteers began tasks like removing weeds that had overgrown playground equipment and signs around the park. Working mostly in pairs or small groups church members swept and raked leaves from the playing field and basketball courts. They also used a leaf blower to clear debris from pedestrian walkways.

Additional volunteers arrived later in the morning to help. Two yellow school buses parked outside the playground, located at 1300 N. 75th St. On board were students from Villanova University who strolled off carrying refreshments and bottled water for their fellow volunteers.

These students continued with the theme of giving back to the community.

“We need to remember that not every place is as fortunate as we are. Villanova has a really pretty campus but we need to make sure other places can have the opportunity to look beautiful as well,” Villanova freshman Chrissy Conners said.

Cleanup organizer Hall-Morris took charge once all volunteers arrived on the scene. She began corralling volunteers into groups assigning specific tasks: cutting branches off of trees extending into nearby streets, uprooting old, withering plants and replacing them with new ones. Students and other volunteers planted nearly a dozen new trees on the grounds. Soon, children filled the now clean jungle gym area. Hall-Morris, with an ever-present smile on her face, even sent a group of workers to other locations in the area to provide extra help to the community.

Approximately four hundred volunteers participated in this event. For Hall-Morris benefits from the cleanup radiate far beyond the playground. One benefit Civic Association members relish is positive impacts on property values resulting from inspiring neighbors to take more pride in maintaining their homes.

Property values in the 19151 ZIP code where the Civic Association conducts business were nearly equal with those for the city as a whole according to the 2010 data released by the U.S. Census Bureau. Nearly 4,000 out of the 83,000 homes in the area had property values of more than $80,000. That number comes out to approximately 47 percent. Citywide homes valued at over $80,000 was just over 50 percent. Approximately 12 percent of homes in the 19151 zip-code had a value between $100,000 and $125,000 compared to the city’s total percentage is less than ten percent.

The Civic Association considers its hard work as having had an effect in keeping property values in the community consistent with city averages.

“We work hard to assist residents in maintaining a clean environment, safe streets and obtaining resources to ensure residents are able to reside in an attractive home,” Association President Farida Saleem said. “This helps maintain the values of our properties.”

The cleanup provided satisfaction to Association members and volunteers alike. As volunteer Frank Bandolon said, “we experience a great feeling giving back to the community.”

source: philadelphianeighborhoods.com  

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Iglesia Ni Cristo purchased the industrial property located at 7100 42nd St. S in Seattle, WA for $

4.3 million, or about $176 per square foot. The building was used by Miracle Temple Church of God in Christ for religious and community events for more than ten years.

The 24,472-square-foot property was constructed in 1968. The site was reported to have oil contamination issues, which lead to a lengthy negotiation process, but it turns out the issue had been resolved by the previous owner and was not reflected on record.

Iglesia Ni Cristo plans to renovate the space; they are currently waiting on the permits from the county. The space will serve as its new headquarters location for the Washington region.

source: costar.com 

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Bought property: St. Luke's Methodist Church

Highlights

• 2-story office / church 19,792 SF
• 2-story residence 3,290 SF
• Near Harrison Medical Center

• Sweeping Olympic Mountain View
• Zoned Residential Low Density (R-10)
• Currently vacant or month-to-month usage

Description

3.59 acres. Includes 2 level church/office building with total of 19,792 SF per Assessor. Constructed in 2 phases 1962 / 1968 per Assessor. Partially undeveloped site. Sweeping Olympic Mountain views. Also includes parsonage / residence of 3,290 SF and building 1964 per Assessor.
East Bremerton. Near Harrison Medical Center. 2 blocks from Wheaton Way Commercial District.

source: loopnet.com

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Bought property: Roseville First Church of the Nazarene

 

Description

Beautiful church/possible school property in Roseville. Sits atop a hill in a prime location, with easy access to downtown Roseville, the newer communities of West Roseville and Highway 80. Sitting on about 9.6 acres of land, the property features a 14,847 sf building with ample parking. Sanctuary can house a maximum of 498 people. The property was remodeled in 2002-2003. Remodel included the sanctuary, projector and sound system, multiple offices, conference room, nursery, kitchen, multiple restrooms, and a full pre-school facility on site. A new roof was installed in 2007. Property includes a 1,900 sf parsonage which is currently rented. Ideal church/school property in an established neighborhood. The modular building on site is not part of the property.
Located at 1301 Main Street in Roseville Thomas Bros 239 F1

source: loopnet.com

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Iglesia Ni Cristo purchased a 7,000-square-foot church building, formerly Park Avenue Christian Church, at 4635 S. Park Ave., from Arizona Christian Missionary Society. Rob Tomlinson of PICOR Commercial Real Estate Services handled the $380,000 transaction.

source: azstarnet.com 

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NEWEST TELEVISION CHANNEL IN THE PHILIPPINES ON FREE TV!!!

INC TV CHANNEL 49

Announce at the soft launching of INC TV last Oct 9 at INC Central office. The GEMTV channel was now officially replaced by INC TV. INC TV now a free tv under Christian Era Broadcasting Service Inc.

WATCH THIS INC TV CHANNEL 49 SIGNING ON THIS COMING OCTOBER 30, 2012

Soon to be the tallest transmitter tower in the Philippines is now under construction...
its the new INC TV Broadcasting tower located at the new NET 25/INC TV Broadcasting Center, EGM Ave (Formerly Central Ave.) Quezon City.

 

source: skyscrapercity.com

The wonder that is the Iglesia

 by ARMAN P. TOGA, FREELANCER NEGROS OPINION

On July 27, 2014, the Iglesia Ni Cristo (INC) will celebrate its 100th Year.

The church under a dynamic leadership continues to amaze. Despite its worldwide presence, only the dialects and languages used in its teachings vary but its doctrines, beliefs and rules based on the Bible remain the same since it was founded in 1914 in the Philippines.


The INC can be considered as one of the wonders of the Philippines - if not of the world,if one can have a chance to trace its beginnings and its rapid growth that are both subjects of research works by many institutions.

One way to really appreciate its history is when one takes a tour of the INC’s museum at its Central Temple in Diliman, Quezon City.

It cannot be denied that many elected government officials and aspirants to elective posts are always hoping for the support of the INC.

They take time to write the INC leadership, attend church activities and services, and visit INC leaders.

This is because the INC’s unity is especially visible during elections.

The unity in voting for certain candidates is just one example how church leaders and members of the INC adhere to the teaching to decide as one.

INC leaders always emphasize that it is not to rob members of their freedom to choose, the same way God’s and Jesus Christ’s will are to be followed without question.

Instead of declaring the 100th year of the INC on July 27, 2014 as a national holiday, why not declare every July 27 a non-working holiday?

I know many from various faiths will not agree — as they did before the Ramadan holiday was signed into law— but even just seeing the INC church as one of the wonders of the country can be enough reason to significantly mark its founding anniversary.

If other religions came from abroad to the country, here is the INC emanating from the Philippines to the entire world.

source: ndb-online.com

Isang pari at isang catholic defender nagpasiklab ng katalinuhan part3

Hindi na nga makaya ni Mr. Flewen ang kanyang "katalinuhan" o personal interpretation tungkol sa sinasabi niyang DOME=STADIUM=ARENA dahil para sa kaniya ay iisa lang yun. Well, wala naman akong magagawa kung hindi niya ako magets at kung hindi niya maintindihan ang pagkakaiba ng tatlong ito.

Wala rin naman kasi akong magagawa kung patuloy niyang pangatwiranan ang MALI nilang pag intindi, matagal ko ng napansin ang ginagawa ng most catholic defenders, ang MAG DEFENSE kahit malayong malayo sa katotohanan.

Ako naman, andito ko nagboblog para ipakita ang KATOTOHANAN sa loob ng Iglesia ni Cristo mapa negative man o positive things, dahil hindi naman ako bias, hindi ako andito para PAGTAKPAN ang relihiyon ko, hindi tulad ng mga gawain ng catholic defenders na PAGTAKPAN ang mga mali sa kanila...

Gusto ko lang sabihin sayo Mr. Flewen na intinding intindi ko ang mali mong pag intindi sa tatlong bagay na iyon. Pinagpipilitan mo kasi na ang DOME ay equals STADIUM at equals ARENA, isa mo pang pagkakaintindi ay ang tawag sa stadium na may bubong ay ARENA, at kapag wala namang bubong ay STADIUM. Nakakatawa talaga itong si Mr. Flewen.

Una, ang tawag sa STADIUM na may bubong ay COVERED STADIUM, o kaya naman pag ang roof ay dome, ang tawag doon ay DOMED STADIUM (kadalasan sa mga ito ay retractable roof o kung hindi maintindihan ni Mr. Flewen, bubong na pwedeng nakabukas at pwedeng nakasara).

Pangalawa, naaawa ako sa capacity ng kakayahan mong makaintindi. Sana lang ay huwag mo ng ipagpilitan ang mga bagay na yon. Eto, pandagdag kaalaman para sa iyo, alam mo kasi wala namang masama na AMININ ANG PAGKAKAMALI, di mo at ninyo iyon ikakamatay at alam ko namang wala kang balak tumigil sa pinagpipilitan mo dahil ang prinsiple nyong mga Catholic defender ay parang ganito "sagot lang ng sagot, mangatwiran kahit mali, dahil kung sino ang sumuko yun ang talo" yan ang napansin ko sa ilang taon kong pagiging blogger, well, wala naman akong magagawa diyan^^

Eto na yung sinasabi ko, uulit ulitin kong muli ang impormasyon na ito para di niyo mailigaw ang mga tao sa katotohanan:

Ang pinagkaiba kasi ng STADIUM sa ARENA, though parehas siyang ginagamit for sporting events at concerts, ay yung sports na ginagawa dito.

"The two words may be used interchangeably. However, there are slight differences in meaning between the two and it mostly has to do with the type of event being presented. In the United States and elsewhere, a stadium refers to a large, usually outdoor structure consisting of a playing field or stage partially or completely enclosed by tiers of seats where spectators may sit and watch. Hence, a stadium is usually designed for outdoor sports such as association football (soccer), American football, cricket, baseball, and stock car racing. An arena, on the other hand, is usually designed for indoor sports such as basketball, ice hockey, volleyball, wrestling, and rodeo. Both a stadium and an arena are almost identical in design and construction except that a stadium is usually for outdoor sports and an arena is usually for indoor sports." source: wiki.answers.com

Sana kahit papaano ay natulungan kita sa bagay na ito. Hindi ko naman itinatangging magkapareho ito in terms of use, pero sana ay maintindihan mo rin Mr. Flewen na MAGKAIBA ang sports na ginagawa dito, at kung mapapansin mo mas malaki ang seating capacity ng STADIUMS (open or covered/domed) kesa sa ARENAS, kung yung pinagpipilitan mo na kesyo pag may bubong ang stadium ay ARENA ito, ay maling maling mali.

Quote ko lang at sagutin ang ibang sinabi ni Mr. Flewen (red=my response):

hindi ka kasi nakakaintindi, all of them are part of a generic STADIUM, ang DOME versus STADIUM versus ARENA mo ay nasa iisang kategorya of being a STADIUM, meaning all sporting events are there to be accomodated. Ang sa iyo, gusto mong palitawin na mali si Mr. Thesaurus, mas magaling ka pa ba sa kanya? aba naman. 
 

Salt Lake Tabernacle is a religious DOME, hindi SPORTS dome. in the generic sense, it can be a stadium but it will not follow the point sa development ng ENGLISH LANGUAGE kaya ito ay napapabilang sa religious dome, hindi SPORTS DOME. kaya nagamit ang terminong DOME sa religious cycle ay dahil sa CONSTRUCTION nito o design, HINDI sa PURPOSE. Hindi talaga pinag-aaralan ni readme ang ENGLISH GYMNASTICS..

minus points again.

Maling maling mali ka po na ang DOME ay equals ARENA/STADIUM, dahil ang dome ay shape ng roof ng isang structure, eto basahin mo sa wikipedia may examples pa:

DOME of St. Peter's basilica 

DOME of the rock in Jerusalem

 DOME of Taj Mahal

Alam mo Mr. Flewen wala akong problema sa point mo, ang kaso yung sinasabi ng dalawa mong kasama na ang PHIL. ARENA daw ay hindi magiging LARGEST DOME in the world ay hindi naman kami sa category na yun sports dome man o religious dome kahit anong structure basta may DOME. Hindi naman ginawa ang PHIL. ARENA para maging structure na may LARGEST DOME in the world, kundi para maging LARGEST domed ARENA in the world. Gets? 

["walang pinagkaiba ang dalawa sa gamit iho. pupuwedeng gamiting ang dalawang arena sa mga sports na sinabi mo. ang sinasabi mo lamang na pinagkaiba ay ang CLOSE AT OPEN, ngunit ang mga activities na pupuwedeng maging applicable sa sinasabi mong DOME at DOMED ARENA ay magkaparehas lang."

Natawa ko dun ah. hahaha kung tama ang sinasabi ni Mr. Flewen, siguro ay nakapanood na siya ng football, soccer, rugby at baseball sa Araneta Coliseum na isang Arena. At nakapanood na rin siguro siya ng ice hockey sa Rizal Memorial Complex na isang Stadium. Ano sa tingin nyo?^^ ]

bakit, hindi ba puwede? ano ba ang indoor soccer, at indoor football?

Sa comment nyang ito ay nagbigay siya ng inaasahan kong isasagot niya, ANG MAG EXAMPLE NG INDOOR FOOTBALL, SOCCER AT RUGBY! hahaha natatawa naman ako. Mr. Flewen magkaiba po ang football (outdoor game) sa INDOOR FOOTBALL and the like, pansin na pansin mo naman ito sa LAKI ng PLAYING FIELD/AREA. What i mean dun sa tanong ko kung nakapanood ka na ba ng football, soccer, rugby at baseball sa Araneta Coliseum ay yung tipical na laro, hindi yung indoor version nito, okay?^^

Dahil ayon nga sa FACTS na pinapaulit ulit ko, ang mga events sa STADIUM at COVERED/DOMED STADIUM ay OUTDOOR GAMES, ang sa ARENA naman ay INDOOR GAMES. Kaya yung football sa STADIUM at sa COVERED/DOMED STADIUM ay parehas lang, iba naman ang INDOOR football kung saan mas maliit yung space, dahil yung covered/domed stadium na yan ay same size pa rin naman ng STADIUM. Gets?^^

 iho, wala naman kaming pinaglalaban kung INDOOR BA O HINDI!, ang pinaglalabanan dito ay ang katotohanang hindi ninyo puwedeng kalikutin ang katotohanan. Ang punto lamang ng artikulo ay ipakita sa inyo na hindi lamang kayo nag-iisa sa labanan ng palakihan. Materyal lang yan, kalaunan, may bagong mas hihigit pa sa inyo, pero kudos pa rin ako sa malasakit ninyo na magkaroon tayo ng sariling OLYMPIC SIZED-DOME para magamit sa mga sports events [malay natin sa OLYMPICS maging host tayo], pero sa pipiliting nagkamali ang mga nagposte ng artikulong generic ng mga Catholic bloggers, mukhang diyan ka nagkamali.

Sana maliwanagan ka sa ENGLISH GYMNASTICS iho ha, kulang pa talaga.

Ang pinaglalaban ko naman po ay ang katotohanang pinipilit nyong mali. Well, salamat at nakakatuwang marinig mula sa isang catholic defender na kahit papaano ay PROUD ka rin pala sa Philippine Arena!^^ Dahil mga bitter lang naman at mga crab ang aayaw at tututol sa Philippine Arena, na porke IGLESIA NI CRISTO lang ang may ari. Kaya nga kitang kita namin na ganun na lang ka INGGIT at ka GALIT ang mga inggeterot inggetera sa project na ito ng INC, kame nga, proud kaming mga INC members sa pinapatayong KING DOME ng Church ni Quiboloy dahil hindi naman kami kasing sasama tulad ng iba dyan.

Pilipino kami, pilipino tayong lahat, dapat maging proud tayo sa kung ano mang meron ang Pilipinas, hindi yung may discrimination na tulad ng ginagawa ng mababaw ang utak at mga walang pinag aralan dahil hindi mga asal tao. TAMA PO BA MR. FLEWEN?^^

Muli, hindi ko pinagpipilitang MALI ang sinabi ng iyong co catholics dahil hindi ko kailangan pagpilitan lalo na kung obvious naman sa mga mata ng readers...

Muli rin, hindi kami para dun sa LARGEST DOME structure, kundi dun kami sa LARGEST domed ARENA.

Muli't muli, wag niyo sanang ihambing ang NEW SINGAPORE NATIONAL STADIUM na isang STADIUM, sa PHILIPPINE ARENA na isang ARENA dahil magkaiba yun.

Ito na ang aking huling pagsagot sa walang sense na pangangatwiran ni Mr. Flewen, kaya kung ibabanat mo uli, Mr. Flewen, ang mga maling pag intindi mo tungkol dito wala na po akong magagawa, advice ko lang, wag na, kasi hindi naman ako yung lalabas na kahiya hiya eh...

Muli, hindi ginawa ang PHILIPPINE ARENA para sa ikaniningning LAMANG ng Iglesia ni Cristo ngunit ito rin ay para sa bansang Pilipinas, kaya nga tinawag na Philippine Arena dahil hindi kami makasarili. Wala kaming magagawa sa mga taong closeminded at walang ginawa kundi mainggit at maasar sa tagumpay ng Iglesia ni Cristo, na lahat gagawin upang siraan ang Iglesia, bahala na po ang Diyos sa inyo.

Lahat ng ito ay para sa kapurihan ng nag iisa at tunay na Diyos- Ang Ama.

 

Isang pari at isang catholic defender, nagpasiklab ng katalinuhan part2

Wow, dun sa part1 nitong post ko ay natutuwa ako sa dalawang catholic defenders, ngayon naman, natatawa na ako dahil may isang catholic defender ang sumoporta sa "katalinuhan" ng dalawa. Okay na sana palagpasin ang nakakahiya nilang pagkakaintindi, ang kaso, si Mr. Flewen (isang catholic defender) ay gumawa pa ng research na mali naman, para lang suportahan ang "katalinuhan" ng dalawa nyang kamiyembro.

At ang nakakahiya pa nito, mali rin sya sa pag unawa ng post ko at mukang di nya alam ang mga sinasabi niya.^^

Ganito na lang, sasabihin ko na lang ang point ng article ko yung part 1, at ieexplain kong muli para naman hindi niya maligaw ang mga tao sa katotohanan.

Una, magkakaiba po ang category na ito:

LARGEST DOMED structure
LARGEST DOMED ARENA
LARGEST DOMED STADIUM (covered/retractable roof)

Pangalawa, uulitin ko ang definiton ng dalawa, ayon kay wikipedia:

Stadium- "A modern stadium (plural stadiums/stadia) is a place or venue for (mostly) outdoor sports, concerts, or other events and consists of a field or stage either partly or completely surrounded by a structure designed to allow spectators to stand or sit and view the event."

Domed Stadium (Stadium with roofs/retractable roofs)- "Domed stadiums are distinguished from conventional stadiums by their enclosing roofs..." "...Even though enclosed, dome stadiums are called stadiums because they are large enough for, and designed for, what are generally considered to be outdoor sports such as athletics, American football, soccer, rugby and baseball. Those designed for what are usually indoor sports like basketball, ice hockey and volleyball are generally called arenas."

Arena- "An arena is an enclosed area, often circular or oval-shaped, designed to showcase theater, musical performances, or sporting events..." "...Football (be it association, rugby, or gridiron) is typically played in a stadium while basketball and ice hockey are typically played in an arena, although many of the larger arenas hold more spectators than do the stadiums of smaller colleges or high schools."

Pangatlo, ayon kasi kay Catholicdefender2000 at Mr. Abe, hindi na raw magiging BIGGEST DOME in the world ang Philippine Arena, in the first place naman, hindi naman kami dun sa category ng BIGGEST/LARGEST DOME STRUCTURE kundi sa LARGEST DOMED ARENA/LARGEST ARENA, iququote ko sinabi nila:

Mr. Abe said: "BIGGEST DOME/ARENA IN THE WORLD BELONGS TO SINGAPORE NOT TO THE MANALOS"

Catholicdefender2000 said: "World's Biggest Dome is not anymore the Iglesia ni Cristo Arena. With its short-lived jubilation, the Iglesia ni Cristo's "Philippine Arena" is NOT anymore the biggest dome in the world."

Eto po ang sinasabi namin at ng iba pa, examples lang:

"Named the Philippine Arena, the soon-to-be world’s biggest dome-arena was inaugurated last August 17, 2011 at Ciudad de Victoria, Bocaue, Bulacan." source: bulacan.gov.ph

"The contract value of the project is placed at US$175 million, and work will be carried out over 30 months, Korea Herald said, adding that with its size, Hanwha E&C considers the structure, named Philippine Arena, to be the world’s largest domed arena." source: thefilipinoaustralian.com

Ang NEW SINGAPORE NATIONAL STADIUM po, uulitin kong muli ay nasa category ng STADIUM, at ang Philippine Arena naman ay nasa category ng ARENA.

Tulad ng mga nabanggit ko, ang WORLD'S LARGEST STADIUM ay nasa North Korea at ang WORLD'S LARGEST ARENA naman o INDOOR ARENA ay nasa South Korea:




sources: wikipedia1, wikipedia2


Eto naman yung pinagpipilitan ng dalawa na di na raw magiging BIGGEST/LARGEST DOME structure ang Philippine Arena, at tulad ng nabanggit ko, ang COWBOYS STADIUM ang title holder nito ang kaso ay mapapalitan ito ng NEW SINGAPORE STADIUM:

 


source: wikipedia


Ngayon, sana naintindihan na ng 3 matatalinong bloggers ang sinasabi ko, na MALI ang sinasabi nila dahil tuloy na tuloy naman na magiging WORLD'S LARGEST DOMED ARENA ang Philippine Arena. Ganun lang siguro talaga sila ka INGGIT, dahil ayaw nilang magningning sa buong mundo ang Iglesia ni Cristo. Ganun talaga ang buhay, at ang mga bitter^^

Sana lang ay di na sinuportahan ni Mr. Flewen ang "katalinuhan" ng dalawa para di sila pare parehong NAKAKAHIYA^^

Pero bago ko tapusin ito, gusto ko lang iquote at sagutin ang mga "katalinuhan" ni Mr. Flewen (red=my response):
  

"pagbigyan natin ang katalinuhan nitong si readme. ano po ba ang ibig sabihin ng “dome”, ayon sa www.freedictionary.com, ang dome diumano ay isang STADIUM with a COVERED ROOF. Isa din diumano itong ARENA"

hehehe hindi naman sa pinaka definition tumingin itong si Mr. Flewen kundi sa THESAURUS. Hindi porke DOME equals na ito sa STADIUM o ARENA. Kahit anong structure basta may DOME, which means: "A vaulted roof having a circular, polygonal, or elliptical base and a generally hemispherical or semispherical shape." galing yan mismo sa source mo^^ Ang Salt Lake tabernacle ba ay isang stadium? eh Arena kaya? eh bakit nasa category siya ng DOME?

"walang pinagkaiba ang dalawa sa gamit iho. pupuwedeng gamiting ang dalawang arena sa mga sports na sinabi mo. ang sinasabi mo lamang na pinagkaiba ay ang CLOSE AT OPEN, ngunit ang mga activities na pupuwedeng maging applicable sa sinasabi mong DOME at DOMED ARENA ay magkaparehas lang."

Natawa ko dun ah. hahaha kung tama ang sinasabi ni Mr. Flewen, siguro ay nakapanood na siya ng football, soccer, rugby at baseball sa Araneta Coliseum na isang Arena. At nakapanood na rin siguro siya ng ice hockey sa Rizal Memorial Complex na isang Stadium. Ano sa tingin nyo?^^

"silang lahat ay nasa iisang kategorya lamang iho. kung matalino kang tao, alam mo yan. Ang pinag-uusapan dito ang palakihan ng DOME/ ARENA/STADIUM, hindi kung ito ba ay COVERED o OPEN STADIUM. basahin ng maayos ang artikulo, huwag agad padalos dalos sa kuwentong kalabaw."

Ang pinipilit kasi ng dalawang co catholics ni Mr. Flewen ay tungkol sa LARGEST DOME (sukat ng dome) na pinatutungkol sa Philippine Arena. Ang kaso, dahil sa katamaran at sobrang "katalinuhan" di nila napansin na nasa category ng LARGEST DOMED ARENA (in terms of seating capacity), muli, ARENA at hindi rin STADIUM (isiningit kasi ang NEW SINGAPORE NATIONAL STADIUM na isang stadium at hindi arena, kaya magkaiba sila ng PHIL. ARENA).

Sana nagets na ako ng matatalino at kamangha manghang Catholic defenders na ito. Di ko na po sana papatulan kaso nakakasurpresa ang pagmamagaling. Dahil wala naman kami sa palakihan, ang punto ng infrastructure projects na ito kasama na ang mga pinapatayong mga gusaling samabahan ay walang iba kundi para sa kapurihan ng ating Panginoong Diyos.

2000 kapatid sa New Bilibid Prison, bad news o good news?

May kumalat na balita noong nakaraang taon lang na naglalaman ng ganito:

"NAHAHARAP sa kasong kriminal sa tanggapan ng Office of the Ombudsman ang nagbitiw na Director ng Bureau of Correction na si Ernesto Diokno at dalawa pang opisyal na sina Supt. Richard Swarchok at Fr. Robert Ulager.

Ito ay matapos na sampahan sila ng nasa 2, 000 miyembro ng Iglesia ni Kristo na nakakulong sa new bilibid prison.

Batay sa Sworn Affidavit ng mga inc prisoners, nilabag ni Diokno at kasamahan ang Republic Act (RA) 3019 o ang Anti-Graft Corrupt Practices Act na nang 'di sila pinayagang makapagsagawa ng worship service sa loob ng NBP kung saan inalis umano nito ang kanilang karapatan na makapagsagawa ng service ang kanilang ministro.

Una nang pinagbawalan ang mga ito noong mga petsang Mayo 1, 5, 7 at 8 nitong taon na makapagsagawa sana ng scheduled service sa mga kasamahan."

source: rmnnews.com

Meron daw 2,000 miyembro ng Iglesia ni Cristo ang nagsampa ng kaso, na nasa NBP sa muntinlupa. Tapos, biglang may nagblog na 16% daw pala ng NBP ay mga KRIMINAL na Iglesia ni Cristo, eto po ang post.

Napapaisip tuloy ang marami, kahit mga kapatid, at kahit ako. Ibig sabihin ba nito ay maraming masasamang INC members ang nahuli na gumagawa ng masama?

Kaya humingi ako ng tulong sa mga kapatid, nagtanong ako sa kanila sa FANPAGE ng blog na ito at nalaman ko ngang may lokal pala ang Iglesia ni Cristo sa New Bilibid Prison.

Nalaman ko rin na madalas daw nangunguna ang lokal ng NBP sa gawaing pagbubunga, o lokal na maraming napapabautismuhan sa distrito at 100% daw lagi ang attendance sa mga pagsamba.

Lahat daw ng may tungkulin don, pwera ministro at manggagawa ay mga inmates.

Pero para sa ikaklaro ng statistics kung saan sinabi ng blogger ay ganito:

 • There are 32,000 inmates in NBP in Muntinlupa: 2,000 of them are INC members. This means that 16% of convicted criminals in Bilibid prison are Iglesia Ni Cristo members.

• There are 1,000 jails across the Philippines, more than 60,000 inmates. We can only guess how many Iglesia Ni Cristo criminal members are inside and outside the prison jail.

Muka pong mali ang ibinigay nyang mga numero. Ayon kasi sa research ko, 8,700 lamang ang totoong capacity ng NBP, ngunit as of 2004, meron na itong 16,747 inmates. (source: nscb.gov.ph)

At ang latest nga, sabi ni Drilon meron na daw itong 17,719 inmates at may kabuuan namang 36, 295 ang inmates sa buong Pilipinas. (source: gmanetwork.com)

Kaya masasabi kong 11%  ng inmates sa NBP ay mga Iglesia ni Cristo.

BAD NEWS ba ito o GOOD NEWS?

Syempre GOOD NEWS!

Kasi nga, patuloy na nadadagdag ang bilang at tunay ngang marami pa ang naliliwanagan sa mga aral ng Iglesia ni Cristo!^^

Isang pari at isang catholic defender nagpasiklab ng katalinuhan

Natutuwa na naman ako sa posts ng catholic defenders, ang isa dito ay si Mr. Abe na may ari ng deleted blog na "The Splendor of the Church" (nagulat nga rin ako eh, natanggal na pala, at ayun, gumawa na lang ng blog sa wordpress.com), sabi nila hindi na raw magiging BIGGEST DOME in the world ang Philippine Arena ng Iglesia ni Cristo, kundi ang NEW SINGAPORE NATIONAL STADIUM na daw, na parehas inaasahang macocomplete ang construction sa 2014.

Eto po ang post sa In defense of the Church at sa The Splendor of the Church, nagulat ako sa balitang yon kaya nagresearch ako, at namangha na lamang ako sa pinasiklab nilang katalinuhan...

Una, wala naman kaming sinasabi na ang Philippine Arena ay magiging BIGGEST DOME in the world sa 2014. Ang sinasabi namin, ang Philippine Arena ay magiging LARGEST DOMED ARENA.

Napansin nyo po ba ang pagkakaiba?

Magkaiba po kasi ang LARGEST DOMED structure sa LARGEST DOMED ARENA.

Pangalawa, para po sa ikatatalino pa ng ating mga kaibigan na bloggers, magkaiba po ang STADIUM sa ARENA.

Ano ang pinagkaiba?

Ang STADIUM po kasi ay kadalasan walang bubong, at ang sports po na ginagawa dito ay for outdoor games tulad ng football, soccer at iba pa.

Ang ARENA naman po may bubong, at ang sports po na ginagawa dito ay for indoor games tulad ng basketball, volleyball at iba pa.

Ano ba ang current LARGEST DOMED STRUCTURE in the world?

Ito ay ang COWBOYS STADIUM sa Texas na may retractable roof na may sukat na 275m, ngunit mapapalitan na ito ng NEW SINGAPORE NATIONAL STADIUM na inaasahang magsusukat na 310m na matatapos ang construction sa 2014.

Ano ba ang current LARGEST STADIUM in the world?

Ito po ay makikita sa North Korea at tinatawag na Rungrado May Day Stadium na may seating capacity na 150,000. Ang NEW SINGAPORE NATIONAL STADIUM naman ay inaasahang may seating capacity na 55,000 lamang.


Ano naman kaya ang current LARGEST DOMED ARENA in the world?

Ito ay ang Gwangmyeong Velodrome na makikita sa South Korea na may seating capacity na 30,000. Ang Philippine Arena naman na matatapos sa 2014 ay inaasahang may 50-55,000 seating capacity, kaya tuloy na tuloy po na magiging LARGEST DOMED ARENA ito sa buong mundo.


Ngayon, sana nakadagdag ang kaalaman na ito sa mga mambabasa lalong lalo na sa dalawang bloggers na nagpapasiklab ng "katalinuhan".


Kaso sana di na maulit.


Wag ganun, nakakahiya^^

Ang Katotohanan sa Lihim ng Iglesia Ni Cristo na inihayag ni Dr. Melanio Gabriel Jr.

Ito po ang sagot ng Iglesia ni Cristo na isang 9 pahinang polyeto sagot sa libro ng isang dating kaanib na si Mr. Melanio Gabriel Jr. na may akda ng librong "Ang lihim at mga kabulaanan ng Iglesia ni Kristo". Ito po ay tungkol sa pagkatao ng nasabing dating INC member (na kiniklaim ngayon ng mga di kaanib na MINISTRO DAW) na dahilan kung bakit siya umalis at nagsulat pa ng isang libro na laban sa Iglesia ni Cristo--upang maghiganti.

Kayo na po ang humusga.

Nakakatuwa nga ang ibang di kaanib na paninira daw ang polyetong ginawa ng INC, kung ano ano ang kanilang sinasabi at eto nga, nabasa ko, miski isang paninira sa pagkatao ay wala akong nakita, puro mga dokumento lamang ang nakalagay, na nagpapaliwanag kung ano ba ang nagtulak sa dating INC member na ito na gumawa ng libro laban sa Iglesia ni Cristo.

(Salamat po sa isang kapatid na nagemail at nagscan ng mga ito!^^)