How to create lies?

Our instructor, Mr. Ernesto Serna Vasol (Catholicdefender2000), owner of the blog In defense of the church, who loves to “answer/quote” my posts. But when answering/arguing to me and other INC members, he is remarkably known for doing these:

*He quotes some Pasugo statements and misinterprets what it contains, to favor with his side.

*He loves to “quote/answer” my posts here in my blog when the topic is about their church. Maybe he is so hurt reading such truths.^_^

*He makes lies, accusations and makes statements exaggerated so that readers will have a bad impression/thinking about his opponent, making him to win the argument.

*He ALWAYS joins the topics about accusations in the INC whenever he would make a post to the INC like saying it is a corporation sole, that Bro. Felix vs. Trillaness issue is true that Trillaness won the case, INC is a cult, and many other! You can notice it while reading even just ONE post of him regarding the INC!

*He quotes unreliable sources, and ANTI-INC blogs/sites/articles that he says “EXPOSE” the INC whenever he makes post about the church, making it favor for his intention, to debunk the INC!

*Whenever there is a member who argues with them, THEY (for most Catholic Defenders does it) always recognized them as a MINISTER, or high rank official in the INC, then make some accusations so that people will have a bad impression to us.

*When “answering/quoting” my post, he only show SOME and not ALL what it contained, he only picks some of the information that he can ANSWER.

*Bias on his opinions like other Catholics does.

And MANY MORE!

FYI: I made a research about him that’s why I had show his Full name!^_^

He “answer” my post entitled “Statues/Images in the INC”, here is his “answer” to my post on his blog entitled “Holy vs. Vain Images, which is detestable?” click on the link. I will just quote some of the content of his post because the lies, oh im sorry^_^ the post of him were too long.

In the introduction of his post he said:

“INC Minister "readme" tried to justify the presence of Felix Manalo's statue at their Central Temple in Diliman, Quezon City (Philippines)….”

That’s what im talking about, before this post, he said I AM JUST A MEMBER, but most of the time he recognize me as a MINISTER for he cannot accept that im just a college student for I have a greater knowledge THAN him, (haha) or greater skills in arguments maybe he’s so jealous. By the way, what is the truth MR. Catholicdefender2000?

And we all know who does CREATE LIES!!

Lets continue…

He then quote some of my post, then he said:

“When Felix Manalo established his Iglesia ni Cristo sect (or CULT) prior to registering it in 1914, he was ABSOLUTELY 10000% in OPPOSITION to having IMAGES in his newly founded church (cult). Because for him ALL IMAGES are abominable—pagan in origin which the Iglesia ni Cristo SHOULD NOT have and according to its Fundamental Teachings, they SHOULD NOT duplicate any of Catholic practices including having images and “worshipping” them….”

See the understandings of this Catholic Defender, very poor. Bro. Manalo lets say oppose to having images/statues INSIDE THE CHURCH. Not in all aspect even the picture of your family inside the house and etc. that Bro. Felix opposes, it is that STATUES/IMAGES in the CATHOLIC CHURCH WERE MADE AND USE IN THEIR WORSHIP. Or making any acts of WORSHIP TO THOSE, VIOLATING GOD’S COMMANDMENTS ABOUT IT. Lets say it is true, but the thing is, the CATHOLIC PRACTICES SHOULD REALLY NOT BE DUPLICATED especially on those doctrines/practices that makes people violates teachings of god!

He continued…

“And because the Catholic Church has a lot of sacred images like that of the great Temple of Jerusalem, he said, this ISN’T anymore the Church of Christ established IN the first Century (though he acknowledged that the Catholic Church WAS Christ’s ORIGINAL CHURCH [PASUGO April 1966, p. 46] which Christ himself established in the first Century).”

The added teachings and changes in the Church of Christ (became Catholic Church) is the reason why it isn’t ANYMORE, again ANYMORE christ’s church! We always admit that the Catholic Church (Church of Christ in called in the first century) was the church built by Christ HOWEVER FALLEN TO APOSTASY. That’s why it is NEEDED to restore Christ’s CHURCH in order for the work of SALVATION continues. (Gets? ^_^)

He further said:

“And so he REGISTERED a Corporation Sole named it “Iglesia ni Cristo”® entirely in TAGALOG with HIMSELF as the FOUNDER, Creator, Initiator, Originator etc.

Of course it would be ridiculous if he would PROCLAIM another Church when the ORIGINAL CHURCH is still THERE existing.”

I will make a post about the “CORPORATION SOLE” if what really it is. By the way, do Catholicdefender2000 KNOWS THAT THE CATHOLIC CHURCH IS INDEED A CORPORATION SOLE?^_^ Does he know that Churches existed are registered as a corporation sole? SO THAT IT WILL BE LEGAL and WILL BE RECOGNIZE as an existing CHURCH in the country? Do he knows that churches who does not registered in the government, in using common sense, is illegal? Like when you were born, would the government RECOGNIZE you as a Filipino with rights if your parents didn’t registered you or you don’t have any BIRTH CERTIFICATE? Why is it ridiculous to proclaim another church WHEN THE ORIGINAL CHURCH FALLEN TO APOSTASY?

He said…

“Since there could be ONLY ONE CHURCH legitimately, rightfully and historically recognized by distinguished historians there could be NO two Churches existing. The solution? He, by his own authority despised the ORIGINAL and HAILED his own founded church.”

There is only one church established by Christ, therefore only one TRUE CHURCH, and the evidence is in the teaching not by the presence. Again, and again, I will repeat, The Church of Christ in the first century is the church established by Christ, that became Catholic Church by changing its name and A LOT IN THE CHURCH, when it falls in APOSTASY(falling away from the true gospel), common sense, it is not anymore the Christ’s Church… So, it is need for someone who became an instrument of God to continue the WORK OF SALVATION THROUGH CHRIST‘S CHURCH.

He then again quotes and misinterprets the Pasugo, he gave some verses about the commandment of god not to worship idols and verses that says God also commanded to make images. Yes, BUT NOT TO BE WORSHIPPED OR MAKE ANY ACT OF WORSHIP!!! He also have a link why Catholics have images on the church and the “commandment” to catholics about the images/statues which contradicts by having ACTS OF WORSHIP. He explained the use of statues, and saying the saints are Christian Heroes so they give them celebrations. He also has FIGURES, (created estimation) about "Who believes and not".

Then he continued…

“Getting straight FACT from these figures, there are more people who believed that there is a right place for Christian Heroes in our Churches. That’s because they didn’t die in vain.”

GETTING STRAIGHT FACTS? Ok. If it is FACTS, then SHOW ME THE LINK WHERE YOU TAKE THOSE INFORMATIONS! I CHALLENGED YOU! I NEED THE LINK IMMEDIATELY or else it is CLEAR under the sun that you ONLY CREATE SUCH THINGS! One of the lies he created! Tsk. Tsk.

He explained that Catholic Heroes should be on the Church, he give a link why do Catholics pray for the saints, and praises them.

He said:

“I am sure, even the most notorious Iglesia ni Cristo believer still believs that the Blessed Virgin Mary, the mother of our Lord is worthy of our respects.

[Read the LIVES of the SAINTS and tell me why we should not respect them?]”

REALLY, OKAY IF THAT IS TRUE, GIVE ME THE LINK OR ANY EVIDENCE OKAY?

Why would we believe that Mary, mother of Christ not “MOTHER OF GOD” is worthy on Catholic’s respects? What we believe, for sure, is that when Mary is still alive maybe she will go and attack the Pope in Rome for giving ACTS OF WORSHIP to her, having DEVOTION to her, and recognizing her as a “MOTHER OF GOD-MAN” and a mediator to God especially our Lord Jesus Christ is the only MEDIATOR of us to GOD!

LETS BE BIBLICAL!^_^ And

FYI: We do not say that those people SHOULD NOT BE RESPECTED, OHOH, very poor in understandings, I really pity Catholic Defenders WORLDWIDE for having such thinking! What we oppose is the images/statues in your churches, and giving them ACTS OF WORSHIP THAT’S ALL!

He even post the picture of the “letter” of Bro. Felix to members in the time of Japanese Occupation, as in their understanding, Bro. Felix LEAVED the church in that time as they accuse he’s being coward… I had answered that ACCUSATION already on my blog and just click the link.

In the last part of his post, he said:

“So the Iglesia ni Cristo has no reason why should they offer flowers or candles or much respect to Felix Manalo for he died just like any other ordinary person. The only difference is that he made himself Lord over his church, and his children as heir to his corporation sole.

[Important: Had anyone of the Iglesia ni Cristo members knew where the children of the Manalos are studying? And how they’re living? What lifestyles do they have?]

The saints washed their garments in the blood of the Lamb. During their lifetime, God listened to their prayers on behalf of the suffering humanity, how much more now that they have shared in the vision of God's glory?

Felix Manalo have NONE of those virtues. Therefore his image in Central is an abomination image unworthy of our reverence.”

There is a BIG REASON why we should give him respect, and even build a statue as others malign it, for Bro. Felix is God’s instrument for the work OF SALVATION CONTINUES… He is the reason why we are necessary in attaining the salvation and making it to the promised kingdom of God. Even though there are THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of detractors, who at his time persecutes the church A LOT, every now and then, still the church is there and forwarding in more glorious achievements! And can you give me ANY EVIDENCE THAT HE MADE HIMSELF LORD OVER THE CHURCH? HUH? Even did we recognize him AS A LORD??? I will WAIT FOR YOUR ANSWER!

Before I End this, I WILL JUST MAKE A CHALLENGE TO YOU, THIS CHALLENGE is what I ASKED to you SEVERAL MONTHS AGO in my post about YOU!

I will just post the question again, especially for you Mr. Er Vasol (Catholicdefender2000)!

Show the list of the teachings/doctrines/practices/dogmas of the CC with the date where it all began and the creator or the inventor of the teaching or whatsoever it is called! And let see if those can be called "ORIGINAL TEACHINGS"!!!! Ok? ^_^

AND IF you cannot answer this, ONE MORE POST OF YOURS “ANSWERING/QUOTING” MY POST HERE, I WILL THEN BELIEVE YOU ARE A TRULY “GAY” (as what Brad Conrad exposed) COWARD CATHOLIC DEFENDER OF LIES!



rules on answering the challenge:



* It should be DIRECTLY answered.

* It is not expected for you to have me a counter challenge, or asking me of something.

* Saying accusations and etc. are prohibited.



Goodluck! But if you cannot stand for this, its ok. But NEVER EVER again "answer/quote" my posts on my blog, because it only shows how jealous you are in the INC. I pity you.