When and how was the APOSTASY occurred?

One of the doctrines of the INC is that the true church of Christ was apostatized as it becomes the Catholic Church that come up with so many new doctrines that are not found and even contradicts the bible.

They say: "If that happened, CAN YOU GIVE US THE DATE WHEN IT HAPPENED? If you cannot then theres no apostasy that occurred!"

One thing we can sure about this:
The Catholic Church will never be the same 1st century church of Christ as of its doctrines!

Here is what a nonmember said:

Please note that the INC preach apostasy of the early Church as whole. This includes the Church hierarchy, its clergy and all members. However, a difficulty for INC is that they can't say exactly when the apostasy took place. According to Pasugo throughout the years, they have identified not one, but several points in history for the occurrance of the Great Apostasy:

1. 400AD plus. Pasugo Feb. 1959, p.1.

2. 1870 Vatican I. Pasugo Aug. 1962 as well as Pasugo March 1956. p.25.

3. 400AD.Roman Empire. Feb. 1952, p.9.

The current magazines appear to now claim apostasy occurring after the death of the last Apostle. If the INC is God Inspired, why can't they figure out when the apostasy took place? source: network54.com

Another thing we can be sure about this:

"Walang IISANG petsa ang pagtalikod ng Iglesia Katolika. Bawat pagbabago sa aral ay PAGTALIKOD." Pasugo issue march-april 1980

Definitely!

It is true that it is hard to find the DATE when the Catholic Church apostatized because every time there are new and contradicting doctrines in the church, it is a process of turning away to the true gospel.

Many may ask: "If it is true then why it is not recorded in the bible?"

How could an event be IN THE BIBLE if it happened after it was all written? Huh?
It is indeed not written in the bible, the date and etc. Ofcourse the bible does not contain EXACT DATES. But there is a thing that can support our claim, through PROPHECY.

And the answer when it happened?

AFTER THE DEATH OF THE APOSTLES.


HERE IS WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS:

“Let no one deceive you by any means; for that day will come, except there come a falling away first…” II thess 2:3

“…for it will not come until after the great apostasy…” (II thess 2:3 twentieth century new testament)

Wait, what's this? On twentieth century new testament it says about the GREAT APOSTASY, hmmmm...

"Don't you remember? I told you all this while I was with you. Yet there is something that keeps this from happening now, and you know what it is. At the proper time, then, the Wicked One will appear. The Mysterious Wickedness is already at work, but what is going to happen will not happen until the one who holds it back is taken out of the way." II thess. 2:5-7

You can notice here that in the time of the Apostles, wickedness is ALREADY AT WORK but there is something that KEEPS THAT FROM HAPPENING. and it will not happen UNTIL the one who HOLDS it will be taken out of the way.

Lets proceed if who's referring to this...

"I know that after I leave, fierce wolves will come among you, and they will not spare the flock. The time will come when some men from your own group will tell lies to lead the believers away after them." Acts 20:29-30

This is Apostle Paul, we can see who HOLDS or KEEPS THAT FROM HAPPENING.

What does Apostle Paul "after i leave" mean?

"As for me, the hour has come for me to be sacrificed; the time is here for me to leave this life." II tim. 4:6

What Apostle Paul is referring is his death, that's why whom HOLDS apostasy from happening are the APOSTLES.

"Let no one deceive or beguile you in any way, for that day will not come except the apostasy comes first [unless the predicted great falling away of those who have professed to be Christians has come], and the man of lawlessness (sin) is revealed, who is the son of doom (of perdition)," (II thess. 2:3 amplified bible)

What is "apostasy" and how this happened

"The time will come when some men from your own group will tell lies to lead the believers away after them." acts 20:30

In short, they will lead the believers doing not in the will of God and accordance to the gospel, but of their will.

"False prophets appeared in the past among the people, and in the same way false teachers will appear among you. They will bring in destructive, untrue doctrines, and will deny the Master who redeemed them, and so they will bring upon themselves sudden destruction." II pet. 2:1 (Good News Translation)


"BUT ALSO [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies), even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction." II pet. 2:1 (Amplified Bible)

As what Apostle peter's, there are FALSE PROPHETS appeared in the PAST and there will be in the same way FALSE TEACHERS. and will introduce heretical doctrines/untrue doctrines.

What else is about the PROPHECY concerning apostasy?

"But the Spirit speaks expressly, that in latter times some shall apostatise from the faith, giving their mind to deceiving spirits and teachings of demons." I tim. 4:1 Darby Translation


"Now the Holy Spirit clearly says that in the later times some people will stop believing the faith. They will follow spirits that lie and teachings of demons." I tim. 4:1 (New Century Version)

It is the bible who said that some people will stop believing the faith, instead they will follow spirits that lie and teachings of demons


The FULFILLMENT of the PROPHECY

"BUT ALSO [in those days] there arose false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among yourselves, who will subtly and stealthily introduce heretical doctrines (destructive heresies),..." II pet. 2:1 (Amplified Bible)

To see Catholic Church's heretical doctrines click here.

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"The Spirit says clearly that in later times some believers will desert the Christian faith. They will follow spirits that deceive, and they will believe the teachings of demons. These people will speak lies disguised as truth. Their consciences have been scarred as if branded by a red-hot iron. They will try to stop others from getting married and from eating certain foods. God created food to be received with prayers of thanks by those who believe and know the truth. " I tim. 4:1 (God's word translation)

What "certain foods" is that?

"...and commanding to abstain from meats,.." I tim. 4:1 (21st century KJV)

In his book, the faith of our fathers, James cardinal gibbons states that:

“prohibiting priests to marry” is both discipline and a law upheld by the catholic church (p.401).

And...

“By the law of abstinence the church forbids us to eat either meat or soups or gravies made from meat, on all Friday’s in the year.” (a handbook of the catholic faith, p. 424)

Clearly the prophesied APOSTASY occurred in the Catholic Church, it is not us who called prohibition to marry and commanding abstinence from meats are teaching of DEMONS, but it is in the BIBLE.

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"...even denying and disowning the Master Who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction." II pet. 2:1 (Amplified Bible)

“5. Did Jesus Christ establish a Church? Yes, from all history, both secular and profane, as well as from the bible considered as a human document, we learn that Jesus Christ established a Church, which from the earliest times has been called after him the Christian Church or the Church of Christ… This Church, founded and organized by Jesus Christ and preached by the apostles, is the Church of Christ,… It is the only true Church and the one which God orders all men to join. ”

(Religion: Doctrine and Practice, by Rev. Francis Cassily, pp. 442-443 and p. 444)

The Christian Church or Christ's Church or Church of Christ. But what did the Catholic Church have done?

“In 1870, at the Vatican Council, the name ‘Roman Catholic Church’ was proposed, but it was rejected. The bishops assembled unanimously decided upon this official name: ‘The Holy Catholic Apostolic Roman Church’” (Discourses on the Apsotle’s Creed, Rev. Clement Crock, p. 191)

They change the name of Christ's Church which according to the bible:

“But there is something we must tell you and everyone else in Israel. This man is standing here completely well because of the power of Jesus Christ from Nazareth. You put Jesus to death on a cross, but God raised him to life…Only Jesus has the power to save! His name is the only one in all the world that can save anyone.” Acts 4:10,12

In what other way they deny Christ?

"This [Jesus] is the Stone which was despised and rejected by you, the builders, but which has become the Head of the corner [the Cornerstone]." Acts 4:11

"For God has already placed Jesus Christ as the one and only foundation, and no other foundation can be laid." 1 Corinthians 3:11

But the Catholic Church teaches:

"The Catholic Church teaches the Biblical account of the foundation of the Church, by Christ, on Peter." source: apostolic apologestics

Clearly the Catholic Church deny Christ as of changing the name of the church(BEING THE FOUNDER) and even rejected our Lord Jesus Christ as the foundation of the church!

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By the way, what is the meaning of APOSTASY?

"Definition: 1- Turning or falling away from true gospel teachings as individuals or as a people. 2- The time after Christ's death when the people turned wicked and killed the apostles and disciples,..." source: about.com
"Apostasy means falling away, defecting, forsaking or departing from the faith." source: discoverrevelation.com

Meaning to say, if the Catholic Church teach doctrines that are not from the true gospel, then it is indeed APOSTATIZED!

Do i need to say those teachings/doctrines/traditions and so on that are not written in the scriptures? From the name itself "Roman Catholic Church" to its pagan inspired celebrations like "Christmas" to the invention of "Purgatory"... Do you think this Church is the same Church that was founded by Christ?

Of course NOT!

Again, there is no SPECIFIC date when the Catholic Church apostatized, but it was prophesied that it will be. Accept the truth or not, it will never change the reality.

“This question poses itself with great urgency today. Does the claim of the Catholic Church to be the true church of Christ still make sense? Is this claim, endorsed in the document of Vatican II, the last remnant of ecclesiastical pride…? For several reasons the Church’s claim to unicity has become a very difficult issue on our day.

What are some of these reasons?

In the first place the traditional apologetical arguments in favor of the Catholic Church’s uniqueness are generally no loner regarded as valid. We cannot offer a strict historical proof that the Catholic Church is in essential continuity with the Church of the New Testament.” (Gregory Baum, Faith and Doctrine a Contemporary View [New York: Paulist Press], pp. 91-92)

“…Few historians would suggest that this continuing self-identity of the Church can be demonstrated historically. When for instance, we look at the profound change that occurred in the early Church when the monarchial episcopate replaced other forms of apostolic ministry, we realize that we cannot “prove” that throughout this change the Church remained identical with herself.” (p.92)