Re: Still the original Church (?)

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A catholic defender reacted and “ANSWERS (?)” one of my article here entitled “Still the original church (?)”… Lets examine his statements…

Catholicdefender2000: A member of Felix Manalo's cult in his blog at readmeinc.blogspot.com was asking if the Catholic Church is still the Church founded by Christ? The answer is a big YES!

In the beginning of his article, you can see his great angriness with the Iglesia Ni Cristo. How can I say that? Because if you were a TRUE defender of your faith and want to show the truth beyond your readers, your statements must not mixed with your emotions especially with your intention! Catholicdefender2000 shows that he is just debunking the INC by using some phrases or words that can be categorized as being BIAS. Let us correct Catholicdefender2000, I am not a member of your so-called “Felix Manalo’s cult” especially to the (apostatized church, hehe) I am a member of the Iglesia ni Cristo (Church of Christ)…! Please remember that!

Let us proceed to his “ANSWERS (?)”

Catholicdefender2000: Is the Iglesia ni Cristo the same as the FIRST CENTURY Church built by Christ?

Definitely no! In fact Iglesia ni Cristo's Official Magazine called PASUGO (Pasugo: August-September 1964, p. 5)said, “When was the INK registered in the Philippine Government? It was in July 27, 1914. Truly it was stated in the registry that brother F. Manalo founded the INK.”

"The true Church of Christ is one, this is the Church built by Christ. If there are churches sprouting today claiming be Church of Christ (Iglesia ni Cristo) these are not real but fakes.” (Pasugo: May 1968, p.7)

Most of the Anti-INC articles of Catholicdefender2000 have these misquoted and misinterpreted statements from the Pasugo. But the thing is, is that statements REALLY extracted from the Pasugo? Or just invented by the catholic defenders?? Wait, let say that it is true… So, what?

“When was the INK registered in the Philippine Government? It was in July 27, 1914. Truly it was stated in the registry that brother F. Manalo founded the INK.”

I mean, what could Mr. Catholicdefender2000 want to put on the registry, in the Philippine government? What we are talking about here in speaking of the “LAW”, is about the REALITY. Can you put on the registry the name “JESUS CHRIST?” hello? What the hell was that? Maybe the employees of the government will just LAUGH on you. In short, If we talk about the law, lets say it is true that it was written that Bro. Felix Manalo founded the INC, so? BUT the teachings of the INC is not that, the one who founded the INC is our Lord Jesus Christ! And that Bro. Felix is God's last messenger (to preach the true GOD's WORDS and not by his own only)... Because in Matthew 16:18 he said "And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church…” Ok? Let us proceed…

Catholicdefender2000: Christ promised that the gates of the netherworld (Hell) shall not prevail, why all of a sudden Felix Manalo taught that Hell prevailed against his Church? IS CHRIST A LIAR? Whose teachings are man-made, the Catholic Church or the Iglesia ni Cristo? Let's examine...

“So that how could we distinguish a Messenger of God from a false messenger of God: It could be distinguished through its teachings according to Chirst. The teachings of the messengers of God are from God, the teachings of the false messengers of God are from his self only (John 7:16-18).” (Pasugo: November 1960, p. 26)
“And who formulated all the lessons taught by the ministers, in worship, doctrines or propaganda? It was brother Felix Manalo.” (Pasugo: May 1961, p. 4)
“As a fulfillment of all the prophecies, all teachings implemented by the INK Ministers in worship, doctrines, preaching in towns, only it was brother Felix Manalo who drafted and implementing them.” (Pasugo: 1963, p. 27)

Again, lets say that those statements were TRULY extracted from the Pasugo… Then? Another misunderstanding of Mr. Catholicdefender2000…

Lets say Bro. Felix Manalo really formulated lessons, and some other. SO WHAT??

If Mr. Catholicdefender2000 only knows that INC members believe that Bro. Felix Manalo is God’s Last messenger, so, that is his duty! To preach God’s words and preach the true meaning of the word’s of God interpreted not by SOMEONE ELSE but with the guide of the Holy spirit. It is the lessons taught by the ministers in the worship services, and some others that done by Bro. Felix not the TEACHINGS of the Church! All of the teachings of the INC are all in the bible; please see a minister to prove that!

(it is written in the top of my blog, see a minister in the locale nearest you, I am not the one who studied about the INC, it is them. So please do not intend to say something related on answering all of your questions regarding doctrines and some other about the INC.)

NOTE: Why does I say that the Catholic Church is not the ORIGINAL CHURCH?

Because of these, click here.

And I just want to say to Mr. Catholicdefender2000, show all my post on my article! And not just cutting and pasting of just few details about it… ARE YOU HIDING THE TRUTH?? Because you do not post about the doctrines of the Catholic Church, the date it was formulated/invented and each of the contributor of those teachings! Another, you do not post my article about answering your misunderstanding about the true meaning of matt. 16:18 about the “gates of hades that will not prevail against the church built by Christ!”… Tsk. Tsk.

And now I am challenging you Mr. Catholicdefender2000, Show all the list of the teachings/doctrines/practices/dogmas of the CC with the date where it all began and the creator or the inventor of the teaching or whatsoever it is called! And let see if those can be called "ORIGINAL TEACHINGS"!!!! Ok? ^_^

Lets continue…

Catholicdefender2000: Who are the Iglesia ni Cristo to think that Christ was joking when he said the gates of hades shall NOT prevail against his Church? He was serious. His Church is still sitting on top of Simon Peter (Rock) in Rome for which HIS Church was built, the keys of the Kingdom was given and the gates of hell can never prevail! Read Matthew 16--

Definitely!

“The Catholic Church which in the beginning was the true Church of Christ.” (Pasugo: April 1966, p. 46)
"The history of the Catholic Church is traced by the Catholic Church back to apostolic times and thus covers a period of nearly 2,000 years, making it one of the world's oldest institutions. The history of the Catholic Church is an integral part of the history of Christianity and of Western civilization." (Source: Wikipedia)

So who's siding with your statements Mr. Readme?

Mr. Catholicdefender2000, DOES THE INC think or say that Jesus Christ is only joking about that? Tsk. Tsk. Can you say that the church built by Christ in the 1^st century did not apostatize?

How can you say that? Especially the TEACHINGS were all CHANGED?? And most are just added, formulated, and invented by the emperors, popes and some other in ROME? Yes. The INC admits it! ALWAYS. That the CC in the beginning was the true Church of Christ, but later apostatized because of the next generation authority of the CC who took over after the death of the apostles… that CHANGED everything in the CC. And those doctrines were not of God, but of Man!

(Worshipping/venerating/adoring Statues & Saints, celebrating Christmas and some other that is all came from PAGANS that the CC violated among the commandments of God… Having the history of torture and murder, how can be the CC HOLY??)

Before i end this, I just then realize one thing, because I thought Mr. Catholicdefender2000 is good enough in understandings, especially in very simple means… PLEASE, if you want others to believe you, say FACTS! How could others will believe and support your thoughts if you cannot give even a simple FACT? Like calling me as, “A member of Felix Manalo's cult”…(?)

What a shame! And i will be the one to ask you,

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-->So, who's siding with your statements Mr.Catholicdefender2000?"