Mga panloloko ng Catholic defenders pinatunayan ni Catholicdefender2000

Himalang nabuhay na namang muli ang ating kaibigan na si Catholicdefender2000. Sa halip na pasinungalingan ang aking post, ayun at pinatunayan nya lang lalo na TOTOO ang mga panloloko ng mga depensor katoliko.

Paano ko nasabi?

Simple lang, wala ni isa sa mga sinabi niya ang nagpatunay na DI TOTOO ang mga panloloko, nagkwento lang siya ng kung ano ano. nonsense ika nga.

Kayo mismo ang magbasa ng bago niyang artikulo, paki-click dito.

At dahil isa sya sa mga Catholic Defender = manloloko at sinugaling, eto na naman at pinakita na naman ang ugali niya, sabi po niya:

Nagkalat na naman ng PANLILINLANG itong tagong Ministro ng INCorporated ni Manalo-- ang Iglesia ni  Cristo^® 1914. Ang sabi niya "90% ng depensor katoliko sa Pilipinas ay matatawag na "manloloko"..." [Source: http://readmeiglesianicristo.blogspot.com/2014/06/ang-mga-panloloko-ng-catholic-defenders.html#more]

Ang gulo nya diba?

Minsan sasabihin ministro daw ako, minsan naman MIYEMBRO. 

Ano ba talaga?

Ganyan talaga pag sinungaling, hindi kayang panindigan ang mga sinasabi. Eto kontrahan nya:

"INC Minister "readme" tried to justify the presence of Felix Manalo's statue at their Central Temple in Diliman, Quezon City (Philippines)." source

VS.

"Happy New Year" greetings from an Iglesia ni Cristo member (readme) at http://readmeinc.blogspot.com/2011/01/happy-new-year.html" source

"Readme (an Iglesia ni Cristo member) was claiming 2 Thessalonians 2:3 as his biblical evidence that there was such an occurrence like "Total Apostasy" or "Complete Disappearance" of the Church founded by Christ." source 

Sino ang sinungaling? Si Catholicdefender2000 o si Catholicdefender2000? :)

Sabi niya sa kaniyang post:

"Unang-una, HINDI po layunin ng mga Catholic Defenders ang MANLOKO at MANLINLANG sapagkat tayo po ay NAGNANAIS na LINAWIN ang mga BINTANG ng mga ministro ng INCorporateed Church of Manalo."

Paano naman kaya niya mapapatunayan na hindi mga MANLOLOKO at mga MAPANLINLANG ang mga Catholic defenders sa Pilipinas eh may mga ebidensya ako at patuloy pang may ma idadagdag na ebidensya sa mga panloloko nila.

Eto muli ang mga PANLOLOKO ng mga Catholic Defenders na hinding hindi niya kayang pasinungalingan:

#1- Catechism of Christian Doctrine

Ang kinokowt ng mga ministro ng INC sa pasugo at kahit sa telebisyon ay ganito:



 

Tapos sabi nila MINALI daw ng mga ministro ang pagkakakowt kasi daw ang nakalagay sa orihinal ay ito:



 
Hindi daw "pagsamba" o WORSHIP ang nasa orihinal kundi "HONOR" lang.

Yun pala sila itong mga nanloloko dahil ang ginamit nila ay ang Catechism of Christian Doctrine no.4 samantalang ang kinokowt naman ng INC ay ang Catechism of Christian Doctrine no. 3. Eto po maliwanag na maliwanag:





#2- Tula ni Ka Daniel Lapid Sr.


Ganito ang kinakalat ng mga CFD na may tula diumano sa pasugo na sinasabing sinasamba daw namin si Ka Felix Manalo:

  
Nung nahanap ng mga kapwa ko INC member ang pasugong iyon ito pala ang nakalagay:




 
Banat ni Catholicdefender2000:

"Nasaan ang patunay na 'yan nga ay sipi mula sa Pasugo, May 1966?"

Kung tutuusin kahit hindi ko ipakita ang buong pahina eh okay lang sa mga mambabasa ko na INC, katoliko at iba pang pananampalataya, may kredibilidad kasi ako, 5 years na akong nagboblog at hindi ko inugali na maging bias at maging SINUNGALING hindi tulad nyong mga CFD na mga manloloko.

Pero para sayo CD2000 eto:

Happy?

Panloloko #3- Pasugo March 1956, p.25


Madalas mag-quote si Catholicdefender2000 ng mga pasugo DIUMANO na nagsasaad ng mga kontradiksyon o ng kung anong impormasyon na kanilang minamali.

Isa na rito ang Pasugo March 1956, p.25 kung saan may nakasaad daw dito na itinatag ang Iglesia Katolika noong 1870 AD at sinulat daw ito ni Ka Teofilo Ramos.

Pero nung nahanap ang mismong Pasugo wala namang ganoong nakalagay at hindi si Ka Teofilo Ramos ang sumulat ng artikulo kundi si Ka Lauro Dolorito:






Eto may bago akong update, pasinungalingan mo CD2000 na may bibliya nga talaga na nag eexist na ang nakalagay sa mat. 16:18 ay HOLY CATHOLIC APOSTOLIC CHURCH at hindi "MY CHURCH". Patunayan mo na ganyan ang nakasulat sa Confraternity version.

Eto nga po pala yung panloloko ni Mr. Talibong, isang CFD na humarap sa debate vs. INC:

At dahil nga hindi na napasinungalingan pa ni CD2000 ang mga ebidensya ng panloloko nila, abay nagrequest na sagutin ang mga tanong niya, sige pagbigyan, mabait naman ako eh :)

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PAKISAGOT!

1. Sabi ng yumaong Eraño Manalo, "halos lahat" daw ng mga Ministro niyo ay mga "mandaraya"? [Basahin dito]

  
Figure of speech lang yan hindi yan literal, sinabi yan ni Ka Erano sa klase ng mga ministro kaya gets nila ang gustong iparating sa kanila, dahil kung totoo ang  "HALOS LAHAT" dapat wala ng natirang ministro dahil yung HALOS LAHAT na iyon eh nasuspinde na o nawalan ng karapatan o natiwalag sa Iglesia.

2. Ayon sa mga journalist sa buong mundo, si Felix Manalo raw ang nagtatag ng INC at hindi si Cristo? [Basahin ang mga news articles dito]

Understandable ito dahil itoy naaayon sa articles of incorporation. Isa pa, ang mga journalist na iyon ay hindi kaanib sa Iglesia kaya napaka normal na hindi nila sabihin na si Kristo ang founder ng INC. Ngunit kailanman sa aming paniniwala hindi namin kinilala bilang founder ng Iglesia si Ka FYM at hindi siya mas mataas kay Kristo.Pero dahil BIG DEAL sayo yun sa hindi malamang dahilan eh paulit ulit ka na parang sirang plaka sa bagay na yan.

3. Ayon sa iyong article, 'Tuluyan nang bumagsak ang Iglesia Katolika sa Kanluran"? Totoo ba ito? Bumagsak ba talaga?

Ang pagkakaalam ko ang article ko ay ito:  Catholic Church, begins in its near end!
Nagquote ako ng isang article sa isang blog, hindi sakin galing yon. At kung ang sinasabi mo naman ay yung galing sa isa ko pang blog dati, ang sabi ko eh: "Alam nyo ba na ang simbahang Katolika sa ibang bansa, sa kanluranin ay tuluyan ng bumabagsak? Hindi ko po ito opinyon, ito po ay katotohanan!" 

Sabi ko, PABAGSAK/BUMABAGSAK hindi TULUYAN NG BUMAGSAK. Sinungaling lang talaga? 

ok :)

Pero totoo yan, search mo na lang sa google. Kalokohan yung statistics mo sa blog dahil "infant baptism" ang may pakana ng pagtaas ng populasyon niyo at hindi dahil nakumberte sila sa Iglesia niyo.

4. Ayon sa Pasugo, hindi pa raw natalikod na ganap ang tunay na Iglesia ni  Cristo- ang Iglesia Katolika? Totoo ba ang pag-amin niyo sa PASUGO, Abril 1966, p. 46: 

“Ang totoo hanggang sa kasalukuyan ay patuloy na ginagawa ni Satanas ang pagpapasok ng mga maling aral sa Iglesia Katolika na sa pasimula'y siyang Iglesia ni Cristo. Sadyang matalino at tuso ang diablo. Hindi niya ginawang biglaan ang pagtalikod sa Iglesiang itinayo ni Cristo noong unang siglo." Ibig sabihin ay ang Iglesia Katolika pa rin ang tunay na Iglesia ni Cristo sapagkat hindi pa ito tuluyang natalikod!?

Hayaan mong ang pasugo na rin ang sumagot ng pagkalito mo: "Walang IISANG petsa ang pagtalikod ng Iglesia Katolika. Bawat pagbabago sa aral ay PAGTALIKOD." Pasugo issue march-april 1980."

5. Totoo bang pag-aari ng mga Manalo ang Iglesia ni Cristo na itinatag ni Felix Manalo noong 1914? Kung hindi naman sa kanila, sino ang may-ari ng Iglesia ni Cristo?

Ang Iglesia ni Cristo ay hindi pag mamay-ari ng "Manalo" kundi ni Kristo dahil siya ang nagtatag nito.  

6. Totoo bang walang Pasko sa INC-1914?  Sigurado ba kayong hindi nagdiriwang ng Pasko ang inyong mga kaanib sa tuwing sumapit ang Disyembre 25? [Basahin dito]

Hindi kami naniniwalang Dec. 25 talaga ang kapanganakan ni Kristo, hanggat maaari ay huwag kaming makikipagparticipate sa mga kaugalian tuwing Christmas kahit na isa na ito sa mga kultura ng mga Pilipino at kahit na isa itong selebrasyon ng dominant religion sa Pinas. 

7. Totoo bang milyon-milyon ang inyong kaanib? May patunay ba kayo? May opisyal ba kayong istatistika tungkol dito?

Hindi naglalabas ng official count ng myembro ang INC. Oo, totoong milyon-milyon na ang kaanib sa INC, maaaring less than 5 million ayon sa aking pag aanalisa. Wala akong pakialam kung naniniwala ka sa sarili mo na 1 o 2 million lang ang INC, opinyon mong mali yan.

8. Totoo bang mayaman ang mga Manalo? May patunay ba kayong namumuhay sila ng simple at nakatira sa simpleng tahanan? At ang kanilang mga tirahan ba ay pagmamay-ari din ba ng Iglesia ni  Cristo?

Hindi totoong mayaman ang mga "Manalo" dahil ang totoong mayaman ay ang IGLESIA NI CRISTO. Ang sweldo ng Presidente ng Pilipinas at ng mga pulitiko nanggagaling sa kaban ng bayan. Ang bahay ng Pope niyo at ang mga karangyaan niya ay galing sa Iglesia Katolika. 

Bilang namumuno sa INC, meron silang bahagi sa handog ng mga myembro dahil lahat ng pinagkakagastusan ng INC ay galing sa mga myembro nito. Mismong mga tulong sa ministro at iba dyaan kinukuha, hindi pinapayagan na maghanapbuhay ang mga ministro para makapagpokus sila sa pangangaral ng ebanghelyo. At sa executive minister namin ganun din, wala silang negosyo.  

9. Totoo bang walang sapilitang abuluyan sa loob ng INC-1914?

Totoo. At syempre dahil sinungaling ka hindi ka maniniwala.

10. Totoo bang 90% ng mga Catholic Defenders ay mga "sinungaling"? Maaari mo bang ilahad dito ang mga 90% na listahan ng mga Catholic  Defenders na "sinungaling"?

Totoo para sakin 90% ng mga Catholic Defenders ay sinungaling. Punta ka sa debate forums sa fb. Pasensya na hindi ko mailalahad dito ang listahan dahil hindi naman ako taga NSO. 

11. Totoo bang nilinlang niyo ang mga tao gamit ang Banal na Salita ng Dios? [Basahin dito]

Hindi totoong nililinlang namin ang tao gamit ang bibliya, dahil bibliya ang ginagamit ng INC para mangaral at malaman ng tao ang katotohanan. Nabulag naman kayo ng inyong tradisyon at mga kredo kaya naiba ang paniniwala nyong mga katoliko. recorded sa history yan.

12. Totoo bang 'Paring Katoliko" itong na-recruit niyo? Kung hindi, bakit sinasabi niyong 'paring Katoliko" samantalang alam niyong hindi siya paring Katoliko? [Basahin dito]

Paring katoliko yan, hindi nga lang ng Roman Catholic Church kundi ng Apostolic Catholic Church. Bago pa kayo nagpalaganap ng kasinungalingan na kesyo pinipilit daw nami ni Roman Catholic yung pari samantalang galing sa Apostolic catholic church yon, eh nauna na ko sa inyong lahat magpost tungkol dyan, eto oh.

Ayan na ang sagot sa simple mong tanong CD2000. Masaya ka na ba? :)

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Kung may balak kang sagutin ang post kong ito, siguraduhin mong meron ka ng ebidensya para pasinungalingan ang mga inilahad kong mga PANLOLOKO NYONG MGA DEPENSOR KATOLIKO.

Kung wala at magkukwento ka lang din, o kaya magququote ng mga pekeng pasugo, naku kawawa ka naman. Mula noon hanggang ngayon ganyan ka pa rin? Walang nadevelop sayo? 

Kamusta na nga pala ang pagiging ANTI CATHOLIC MO? 

GOODLUCK :)

The INC of Manalo and other anti-Catholics say that the Catholic Church is a "False Church" --Catholicdefender2000

 

 

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Here we go again, Mr. Catholicdefender2000, owner of the blog In defense of the Church, quoted my post here entitled, “Truth or Myth? There is a female pope!”. Here is what he said in his post on his blog. Click the link.

I will just quote some of the info. In his posts.

He said on his introduction:

“an Iglesia ni Cristo member by the name "readme"”

Here you can see he contradicts himself, making to a point he shows that he create LIES, and DECEPTION so that he will have +points to me, making other people have a different thought about me. I just wonder what is the truth, because most of the times he addressed me as a MINISTER, and now a member? Tsk. Tsk.

Lets proceed..

He said:

“On my part, I was MORE surprised than Mr. readme to see such a MYTH being OFFICIALLY circulated in its Magazine and IS still believed among members of this cult to this day.”

It is officially a myth with the eyes of the CATHOLICS like you, for whatever the popes/authorities in your church said, is what believed by the CATHOLICS (whose most members are IGNORANT in their faith) and im not surprised. The author only quoted the book “The people’s Almanac” by David and Irving. So, if you have a problem regarding that, please argue with the authors of the book because for you they are “CIRCULATING A MYTH”! He also wants, in his post to the readers to believe that the INC members especially me, were 100% believe on it, what a lie! Did he really read what I post? Or he again CREATE LIES? Especially I frankly/(without any bias) said:

“We didnt know what exactly happened, so, even i, i cannot confirm if it is really happened. maybe? maybe not.”

And I also said:

“Well then, if i believe…”

So, where in my statements that I said I am fully BELIEVED that the story of “pope joan” is truth not a myth? HUH? MR. LIAR??

He further says:

“It's because MANY anti-Catholic and anti-Pope cults like YOURS believed in myths OFFICIALLY PUBLISH and CIRCULATE the same lie to its members. So now that LIE is PERPETUATED in YOUR religion. ”

I challenged you deceiver, where is your evidence, ANY RESOURCES that says MEMBERS OF THE INC 100% believes even I, in the STORY OF POPE JOAN? CAN YOU GIVE ME PLEASE?^_^

He then explains why it is considered as a myth, he quotes with praises the CATHOLIC encyclopedia and he showed the full context about on what I had quoted.

Lets continue...

He said:

“So even how much Catholic priests hide their wrongdoings, God always makes a way to expose their evil wrongdoings so that they may not harm his Body, the Church.

And many other schismatic groups and individuals (like Felix Manalo) left the Church for Christ WILL NEVER allow the gates of hell to prevail.

For according to his solemn PROMISE that "the gates of hell WILL NEVER prevail against [his Church]". (Mt. 16:18), so everyone doing something evil AGAINST the Church will be exposed so that the Light of Christ may shine. Hell WILL NOT prevail against HIS CHURCH no matter how much you tried!”

Im just so happy that a catholic defender admits that some of the priests REALLY EMBARRASS the CATHOLIC CHURCH! It is the church who produced them right? So, is it impossible for the church to produce more EVILS? If the church does not tolerate or even hide such things to protect the image of the church, why then it takes some 50 years for it to be REVEALED? WHY? WHY? WHY?

It is so impossible for there are billions (as what they proudly claimed) Catholics, or lets say if you are a victim of a priest, there is a thousands of co-members in a chapel for the you to tell what happened, even just a sign that you were abused so that it can be immediately report it to the authority.

(Like in the INC, even you were a minister or high rank official in the church, if a member saw you doing bad things it is reported to the district office. The members and other would not be like “bulag-bulagan” if you are in the wrong doings, they will not wait several YEARS to report you to the district or main office. For the church do not TOLERATE members in a non-christian living that’s why there is expulsion in the church.)

Bro. Manalo and other former catholicssssss (many “s” because there are millions who leaved the catholic church^_^) because they found out that the CATHOLIC CHURCH TEACHES FALSE DOCTRINES, and MAN-MADE DOCTRINES, why Catholics would hesitate to leave the church if they discover that the church teaches members to VIOLATE GOD’S COMMANDMENTS??

In the verse you said, it is the GATES OF HADES, the NETHERWORLD, HELL, the POWER OF DEATH (“KAMATAYAN!”) will not prevail the CHURCH. Not the “evil things” you said. Persecution does not prevail the church, but the APOSTASY! He is not a boy anymore if he already CHANGED his gender. Christ’s church could never be the church built by Christ if it gone to a BIG CHANGES, especially the important thing, the words of God CHANGES!

Take note, changes is different from DEVELOPMENTS!

He then again and again, if he has a post about the INC, he always join the topic about Bro. Felix and Rosita Trillanes, saying that Bro. Felix is a rapist, a “rapist” that is not been JAILED for his CHARGES he had DONE?^_^

Then he continued…

“No matter how you HIDE your teachings from the PUBLIC, the truth will always prevail. And since you said it perfectly, that "THERE IS NO SECRET THAT WILL NOT BE REVEALED" what you hide from public is now being exposed by members of your own who defected and now turning against your own founder and your own church.”

In what SENSE does the INC HIDE ITS TEACHINGS??? Or another invented accusations of catholic defenders and ADD members right? Is it called “HIDING” if only the INC doesn’t use the web in EVANGELIZATION? What the? ANOTHER IGNORANT CATHOLIC?

Another question, is it called to be a “secret” if it is not KNOWN BY THE PUBLIC? For example, there is a chapel to be repainted, do the INC need to pay for an advertisement on t.v and newspapers for the public to KNOW so that it will not categorize as being SECRET? What the? I know what you think, it is about the former INCs turned ADDs who “exposed” some of the issues and intrigues from its members? You know, if it is INTENTIONALLY hidden by the Church to protect its image, why then those members who done wrong being EXPELLED in the church without KNOWING BY THE MOST PUBLIC??

Wait, What do you mean by: “and now turning against your own founder ”. Our founder, the founder of our church is no less than our Lord Jesus Christ, it is by the teachings and not by history, because the history was that the Catholic Church apostatized by having man-made doctrines and evil commandments.

In the last part of his post, he quoted Amazon.com for the support about story of Pope Joan being a myth. He says:

“I am sure readme loves THESE to be published officially in their Pasugo for the next generations of Iglesia ni Cristo members to believe.

TRUTH or MYTH? Officially, your Iglesia ni Cristo believed in it!”

Again, I would like to make a clarification to Mr. Catholicdefender2000’s deception and created lies, I DO NOT SAID that INC MEMBERS 100% believes in that story for it is only a novel of Ms.Donna, how about me? I can say that in the time I was writing my post about her, in the time of I am having a research about her, and now (especially this is the only time I know something about the story) I believe 50-50,

I would only believe that it Is really a myth if Catholicdefender2000 answers what Ms. Donna argues in what I had quoted on her novel! I NEED THE ANSWERS IMMEDIATELY! If this takes a week before Mr. Deceiver answers, I cannot accept it anymore for I know it is from the help of other apologists!^_^

Overall, I again wonder why does he didn’t show all of my posts when he “ANSWERS” it? He always quotes a bit then make lies and bias opinions about it. IS THIS REALLY CATHOLIC DEFENDERS PLAYS A GAME? WITH A VERY DIRTY TRICKS? TSK. TSK.

I really pity Mr. Catholicdefender2000, again and again I will say it, if you like to “answer” my posts, please make on a point that you tell simple TRUTHS ok? And please SHOW ALL OF THE CONTENT OF MY POST! It seems you just pick some of my statements that you can answer! And last, dont be BIAS. Poor!

How not to answer a question?

How not to answer a question?

Our another instructor, Sir Abe, the author of one of the most visited blog entitled The Splendor of the church. He is a priest/apologist in the country, whom I asked the same as what ive asked to a columnist/apologist Sir Cenon Bibe Jr.

(see our conversation, so that you will not say that I am bias.)

I have posted on his blog last holy week, I remember it and it was Thursday. He replied that he cannot for now, able to answer my question because he will be busy for a vacation, and he will not active blogging for the month of April. Guess what, on the month of April, he had been many posts in his blog. Then I asked him about my question and challenge to him, but because on that time my computer was not fixed yet, that I am not updated if he already answer my question or not. Then on the month of May, that its been several weeks that he is not RECALLING that I have asked him questions. I commented on his blog I said “do you have answered my question and challenge Sir Abe?”

Then he said, he knows nothing about that, that all of the questions from the nonmembers are answered by him. He demands to repost my question, but I said, it is impossible for him that he cannot remember my question especially we had a conversation about it.

I also say to him that he should post it as an article on his blog, and he did it.. BUT, he answered me by giving his opinion and not DIRECT TO THE POINT. He even said that I should go to their website or buy books of their Catechism and that he further say, his duty is not to post all of the doctrines of their Church. By the way, let me first show my first question with the challenge to him. (I will translate it on english)

hi Fr. abe,

I did not go here to have an argument. Just to know catholics/ your side about this. I just want to ask how can you prove that the Catholic church is still the original church or the same and identical church with the 1st century church? Regarding the beliefs?

What i want an answer from you sir is that post doctrines in the Catholic church with the date it began and the authors of it...

Then, let us judge if it is so..

If the beliefs of the catholics nowadays are the beliefs of the 1st century christians...

Godbless. Tnx.

i will wait for your answer^_^ ___________________________-

Firstly, I asked him “how can you prove that the Catholic church is still the original church or the same and identical church with the 1st century church? Regarding the beliefs?”

Then a challenge, “What i want an answer from you sir is that post doctrines in the Catholic church with the date it began and the authors of it...

Then, let us judge if it is so..

If the beliefs of the catholics nowadays are the beliefs of the 1st century christians...”

You can notice that I did not say ALL OF THE DOCTRINES, I already explained to him about it, that even just common doctrines of the Catholic Church like Christmas, Purgatory, All saints day/All Souls day and etc…

But, again, what he answer to me is that I should go to their official website of the CC, because he said “THE DOCTRINES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ARE ALREADY PUBLISHED IN OUR CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WITH CORRESPONDING EXPLANATIONS AND BIBLICAL AS WELL AS PATRISTIC SOURCES TO SUPPORT THEM.”

And he even gave me a counter challenge not thinking about my post, for I said “I did not go here to have an argument. Just to know catholics/ your side about this.” I then wondering if he understands my comment on his blog??^_^

(see our conversation, so that you will not say that I am bias.)

But then, the followed answers from him to my posts are all but his opinion, and all about accusing me and the Church of Christ. I thought he will answer my question and challenge to him DIRECT TO THE POINT especially he is a PRIEST/APOLOGIST, but I failed because what he did is that he addressed me on the CC website and Catechism and etc. He then began saying WORDS that I do not expect he will say because he is a PRIEST! I then again asked him, (still hoping that he will answer me DIRECT TO THE POINT). I asked him, “how about Christmas? Why not showing its history?”.

He then addressed me to that Catechism and website and alleged me and my faith that we are blind for we cannot see on the bible that it is said that Christ was born, and that’s why it is called Christmas because it was the day of the birth of Christ.

I think he is the one who is blind not thinking our FAITH is. It should be noted that the Church of Christ did not deny the birth of our Lord Jesus Christ. What we did not agree is about the HISTORY OF CHRISTMAS, THE DATE OF CELEBRATING it. Especially what’s its history say that it came from pagans celebrating SUN-GOD Sol invictus and that called CHRISTMAS is not even shown in the bible, therefore not of GOD and not of the APOSTLES but of their CHURCH FATHERS. Clearly, he contradicts himself by saying:

“THE DOCTRINES OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH ARE ALREADY PUBLISHED IN OUR CATECHISM OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WITH CORRESPONDING EXPLANATIONS AND BIBLICAL AS WELL AS PATRISTIC SOURCES TO SUPPORT THEM.”

What can the Catholic Church give any BIBLICAL VERSES that support their doctrine/tradition about celebrating Christ’s birth every 25^th day of DECEMBER? They cant even deny its history formulating that doctrine, that many years ago it is not Dec. 25 Christ’s birth celebrated, but Jan 6.

I still post comments on his blog this week but after I realize that our conversation is only pointing to throwing of accusations and going to nonsense things, I now stopped it as I do this article. I even say this to him, but still, a funny answer of him was I always remembered.

My question is: “HOW CAN YOU PROVE”

And guess what his answer, and alleged me of being blind and closeminded that i am not ACCEPTING his answer?

His answer: “YES”

Again, my question.. HOW CAN YOU PROVE and his answer is YES??

What the??^_^

If one's become aggressive

Try to read the comments of a Catholic faith Defender in the username Catholic Defender. Where he said LIES including this:

Catholic Defender said...

BAka naman sabihin ni Ginoong Obligacion aka Truthcaster aka Readme aka Abuloc aka Aerial Cavalry aka xoxo na nagsisingaling ako: Heto ang mga patunay na mahilig MAGPANGGAP nga itong si GINOONG OBLIGACION.

1. TRUTHCASTER aka CONRAD J. OBLIGACION
2. README aka CONRAD J. OBLIGACION (he has separate blog called readme.blogspot.com)
3. RESBAK aka CONRAD J. OBLIGACION (owner of www.resbak.com)
4. CATHOLICIVATAN aka CONRAD J. OBLIGACION (which this blog he stole from me)
5. GEOFF aka CONRAD J. OBLIGACION

So ano pa man ang PAGPAPANGGAP niya, siya pa rin si CONRAD J. OBLIGACION...

Purihin ang Dios!
Purihin si Cristo!

In a very AGGRESSIVE ACT, without making an extensive research he said that I (Readme) and Sir Conrad, the author of one of the famous blog RESBAK.COM are totally ONE! I can now further say that most of the Catholic apologists in the country were not CREDIBLE! THEY WERE INVENTOR of their own-make LIE! As he and others want to debunk me, as i defend our church, Iglesia Ni Cristo, and as i (i can say slight becoming famous^_^) on my way, they MALICIOUSLY create LIES to show that i am a great lier. Very vey poor! Catholic Defender RELY on a comment (i think an ADD member) that say:

Jake Astudillo Says:
January 29th, 2010 at 12:41 am

That Wikipedia thing is a product of the editing of the Iglesia ni Cristo (INC) members who live there.

Conrad J. Obligacion who stole the TruthCaster monicker and who calls himself “ReadMe” and Resbak attempted to re-write the whole of the bio of Bro. Eliseo Soriano in Wikipedia and made it entirely negative.

Obviously, they are being protected by Moriori of Wikipedia.

The real TruthCaster is Preacher Soriano. He has a program in this name in which for years he tried to propagate the words of God. Obligacion has nothing to do with truth but falsehood.

After stealing his name, Obligacion attempts to re-package the evangelist as an evil person, heavily associating the word, RAPE, to Soriano.

If i am really Sir Conrad, i will say it very early and i will also put to my "about me" section that i am him! But because i am not him, im so sorry for you are having a GREAT BIG MISTAKE! How could i be him if we have many differences? Just read my posts, see my grammars and you can see that i am not so fluent in english as he is. And i do not have so many knowldge in defending church teaching's for i am just a beginner, that no one helps me in this matter but only, i, myself who does all the researching.

I also created a conclusion of his act.hehehe^_^ He mistaken me that i am Sir CONRAD because i think on his head he sees similarities between us. WHY??? WHY???

VERY SIMPLE. What does Catholics central belief?
Jesus is God.

They say Jesus is God, as they found similarities between them. They say jesus said to be the alpha and the omega, and also god said to be the said things. Jesus said "I am" and also God, And many more. Not thinking the reason why Jesus being the Alpha and the Omega and also God. Not thinking how Jesus being "I am" and also God. That's why he mistaken me for that, for creating a lie that his intention is to have score with me and Sir Conrad.

Hmmm... MORAL LESSON?
DONT BE BLINDED BY YOUR OWN THOUGHTS AND FALSE BELIEFS! Tsk. Tsk.

Next time, make a research first so that you will not be ashamed on yourself! POOR!