Pag Iglesia ni Cristo ba ang relihiyon ng isang tao ibig sabihin perpekto na ang lahat-lahat sa kaniya?

Let's face the truth and the reality members and nonmembers...

Pahapyaw lang tong gagawin ko, hindi pa yung masyadong detalyado, di pa kasi ako makahanap ng time gawin, saka naghahanap pa ko ng konti pang mababasa sa Pasugo o sa internet tungkol dito.

Gusto ko lang klaruhin ang isyu tungkol sa moralidad ng mga miyembro ng Iglesia ni Cristo, marami kasing mga misconceptions ang mga di kaanib kahit pa mismong mga kaanib tungkol dito (kahit ako rin dati, buti na lang mahilig akong magresearch^^).

ISYU: Pag ba INC member perpekto na ang lahat lahat sa kaniya? Yun bang hindi na pwede magkamali o magkasala? Yun bang perpekto ang buhay niya, na maayos ang sariling pamilya at iba pa? Yun bang walang problema sa ibat ibang bagay?

Realidad:

May ilang myembro na hindi sinusunod ang aral ng INC.

May ilang myembro na wasak ang sambahayan o hindi maayos ang relasyon sa magulang o sa anak o sa mga kamag anak.

May ilang mymebro na hindi pa rin maiwan ang mga nakasanayang gawain nung hindi pa sya myembro na labag sa aral ng INC.

May ilang myembro na nasa maling paraan ng pamumuhay.

May ilang myembro na hindi kagandahan ang mga pag uugali.

Higit sa lahat, walang myembro sa INC ang PERPEKTO.

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INC MEMBER = PERFECT ?

Maaaring itanong ng ilan, eh bakit kasi madalas sabihin ng mga Iglesia ni Cristo na sila lang ang maliligtas? Na pag nag INC ka mababago ang buhay mo in a positive way?

Yan, MALI ang pagkakaintindi sa sinasabi namin. Sige, klaruhin natin isa isa ONCE AND FOR ALL.


Sa mga Di kaanib

Pag sinabi namin "Iglesia ni Cristo lang ang maliligtas" hindi namin kiniclaim na LAHAT NG INC MEMBER no exemption, kahit anong ugali, kahit minsan lang sumamba, kahit mali ang paraan ng hanapbuhay/pamumuhay, kahit mali ang mga gawain at iba pa, AY MALILIGTAS, current INC member man o INC dati.

MALI! Wala kaming doktrinang ganyan!

Pinaniniwalaan lang naman namin ang sinasabi sa bibliya na ililigtas ni Kristo ang Iglesia nya, masama ba yon? Sinabi ba nyang ililigtas nya ang lahat ng tao sa buong mundo anuman ang relihiyon at paniniwala? Magbasa lang po ng bibliya^^

Dun naman sa pangalawang tanong, na porke INC member, LAHAT, WALANG EXEMPTION, na pag nag INC ka magbabago agad ang buhay, na titigil na sa mga masasamang gawain dati, at susunod sa aral sa INC.

Wala naman kaming kiniklaim na LAHAT ng INC member ay ganoon nga nangyari sa buhay. Siyempre dipende yan dun sa tao at hindi dun sa relihiyon, aba kailan pa nag utos ang relihiyon na gumawa ka ng masama? Na wag kang magbagong buhay? Na wag mong susundin ang aral ng Dyos? WALANG GANUN! Kahit gaano pa kaayos ang doktrina sa INC, at pagkakaturo sa kanila ng mga aral, NASA SA KANILA YUN kung lalakaran ba nila yun o isasabuhay, at kung hindi nga nila magawa yun, merong tinatawag na "tiwalagan" kung saan kung hindi mo sinunod ang lahat ng aral na tinuro sayo bago ka pa man mabautismuhan at lumabag ka doon, ay ititiwalag ka base na rin sa utos na nasa bibliya.

Sa pag kaka analize ko ng nangyayari, sadyang mataas lang talaga ang expectation at tingin ng mga di kaanib sa INC members, kaya nga kung mapapansin nyo, pag sangkot ang isang INC member sa isang balita sa dyaryo o kung saan man, eh napakalaking BALITA na.

Nakakatuwa nga at talagang nilalagay yung relihiyon ng nakagawa ng masama, samantalang pag katoliko naman, WALANG NAKALAGAY. Hal. "Isang katoliko nirape ang anak" o kaya naman "Isang katoliko pinatay ang asawa".

Pero pag INC, wow, banderang bandera kasama pa nga tungkulin eh, tulad ng "Isang Dyakono, nirape ang anak" o kaya naman "Isang ministro, namaril". Ang galing ano, bukod sa relihiyon, kasama pa specifically yung tungkulin, pero pag protestante at katoliko, NAPAKADALANG kung makakita ko ng ganyang balita...!

Sa sobrang taas ng pagkakilala o expectation ng mga di kaanib sa INC, madalas nilang linya eh "Ano ba yan, Iglesia ka pa naman, ganito ganyan ginagawa mo" kahit kaunting maling kilos lang yan ang bukambibig, pero pag isang Mormons nakagawa ng kasalanan o kaya naman eh isang born again, sobrang dalang nating makarinig ng "eh mormons/born again ka pa naman, ganito ganyan ang ginagawa mo". Tapos biglang isisisi sa INC, sasabihin, "ah ganyan pala mga Iglesia, kaya ayokong umanib sa inyo eh ganyan ang ginagawa nyo!"...

Ano daw?

Pag isa ang nagkamali o nakagawa ng kasalanan AS A WHOLE na kung manghusga? Nadadamay pati ang Church at ang lahat ng miyembro?

Tignan nyo, kaya po sana, hinihiling ko lang na matigil na ang ganitong mga ugali at impresiyon ng mga di kaanib.


Sa mga INC members naman

Sana wag tayong panghinaan ng loob, o manlamig sa pananampalataya o matisod dahil lang sa mga kapwa kapatid sa INC... Na nakakagawa ng mali, o ng kasalanan, o mali ang paraan ng pamumuhay, o masama ang ugali. Lagi po sana nating tandaan na hindi naman porke INC member ay translation non ay PERPEKTO.

Walang perpektong tao, at wala pong perpektong INC member. Lahat ng tao sa mundo included na ang INC members ay nagkakasala, dahil lahat tayo ay tao, ang ating Panginoong Jesukristo lang naman ang nag iisang tao sa history ng mundo ang hindi nagkasala, hindi dahil sa Dyos sya, kundi sinunod nya ang utos ng Dyos kahit pa nung nakatakda syang mamamatay, tinanggap nya yon, para maging halimbawa sa lahat ng tao. Kumbaga sya ang standard, o modelo ng lahat ng tao na dapat tularan o gayahin...

Ngayon, paano kung meron kayong kakilala o nakita na isang INC member na mali ang ginagawa, o masama ang ugali, o mali ang paraan ng pamumuhay?

Dapat ba pinanghihinaan ng loob?
Dapat ba matisod dahil INC member siya pero masama ang ginagawa?
Dapat ba manlamig sa pananampalataya?

Kayo na rin mismo ang makakasagot niyan. Isipin nyo na lang, hindi naman siguro kayo nag IGLESIA NI CRISTO dahil dun sa myembrong gumagawa ng masama, maytungkulin man o hindi. Isipin nyo kung bakit kayo nag IGLESIA NI CRISTO. Alalahanin nyo kung ano ang sinulat nyo sa form nung natapos nyo ang doktrina nyo, sa tanong na: BAKIT KA NAG IGLESIA NI CRISTO?/DAHILAN KUNG BAKIT NAG IGLESIA NI CRISTO.

Ako naaaalala ko pa sinagot ko dun!^^

Tanungin nyo rin sa sarili nyo kung sino ba ang magliligtas sa inyo, si Jesus ba o yung INC member na gumagawa ng masama? Na panghihinaan ka ng loob dahil lang sa kaniya? Bakit, hawak nya ba ang kaligtasan mo? bakit, representative ba sya ng INC na porke nakagawa sya ng masama ay magrereflect sa INC ang lahat ng ginawa nya?

Bakit, yung mga ginawa ba nyang mali, KINUKUNSINTI ba o NILALABAG ang aral ng INC?

ano sa tingin nyo???


Pangkalahatan

Yan po ang realidad at katotohanan sa loob ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Sabi ko nga sa blog ko, ang objective ko ay NOT JUST TO DEFEND, BUT TO SHOW THE TRUTH INSIDE THE INC. Ang katotohanan po at realidad ay walang isang relihiyon sa BUONG MUNDO na ang mga myembro ay mga perpekto, na hindi nakakagawa ng kasalanan, at pagkakamali. Ang katotohanan at realidad ay hindi lahat ng INC member ay gumagawa ng mabuti at sumusunod sa aral ng INC, maytungkulin man o wala.

Dahil hindi naman LAHAT ng INC members ngayon ay nag INC ng bukal sa kanilang kalooban, may ilan na nag INC para sa pansariling interes, o napilitan lang. Yan po ang katotohanan.

Wala sa magulang mo, sa teacher mo, sa alagang aso nyo ang kaligtasan mo, kundi nasa mga kamay mo. Nasa kamay natin yon at wala sa iba, kaya gawin natin ang mabuti at puro pagsunod sa mga aral ng Dyos na laging pinapaalala satin ng mga ministro sa mga pagsamba.


PAALALA: (Member o nonmember) Kung makakakita ka ng INC member na gumagawa ng masama, o nasa maling paraan ng pamumuhay, isa lang ang dapat mong gawin, SAWAYIN MO!

Hindi na kailangan idamay pa ang Iglesia ni Cristo na wala namang kamalay malay at hindi naman iniuutos sa kaniya ang mga maling ginagawa niya. Hindi na kailangan ipamukha sa kaniya na may tungkulin man sya o wala, dahil sa mata ng Dyos pantay pantay tayo.

Kung hindi sya madaan sa saway, isumbong mo o ireport mo sa lokal na kinakatalaan niya para matagubilinan at mapayuhan (hindi naman tiwalag agad, warning muna^^). At kung patuloy pa rin siya sa gawaing iyon, ay saka lamang sya gagawan ng aksyon upang tuluyan ng matiwalag.

Muli, walang dahilan upang ISISI sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang masasamang gawa ng mga myembro nito dahil wala namang iniuutos at wala namang doktrina sa INC miski isa ang nagsasabing GUMAWA KA NG MASAMA, o kaya naman ay LABAGIN MO ANG ARAL SA INC, walang ganun.

Isa pa, wala ding dahilan upang matisod sa mga maling ginagawa ng ilang INC member, dahil hindi naman nila nirerepresenta ang INC, wala naman sa kanila ang kaligtasan mo lalong lalo na hindi ka naman nag INC dahil sa kanila.

Yun lang po at maraming salamat.


(Gamitin man ito ng mga di kaanib bilang pang atake sa INC, ito po ang katotohanan, konsensya na nila yon kung gagamitin nila ito sa mga kasamaan nila, diyan natin makikita kung sa Dyos talagang sila.)

Does INC practice tithing?

What is tithing? Does INC practice tithing? Why and why not? If not, where does INC get funds for building houses of worship around the world?


ANSWER:

The Iglesia ni Cristo DOES NOT PRACTICE TITHING, we never, do not and will not practice tithing. If you may see in the internet that says the church does it, well its a false info from nonmembers.


What is TITHE?

"A tenth part of one's annual income contributed voluntarily or due as a tax, especially for the support of the clergy or church." source: thefreedictionary.com

Why does the INC do not practice tithing?

Let us just read this interesting article in gotquestions.org, it says:

"Many Christians struggle with the issue of tithing. In some churches tithing is over-emphasized. At the same time, many Christians refuse to submit to the biblical exhortations about making offerings to the Lord. Tithing/giving is intended to be a joy and a blessing. Sadly, that is sometimes not the case in the church today.

Tithing is an Old Testament concept. The tithe was a requirement of the law in which all Israelites were to give 10 percent of everything they earned and grew to the Tabernacle/Temple (Leviticus 27:30; Numbers 18:26; Deuteronomy 14:24; 2 Chronicles 31:5).

In fact, the Old Testament Law required multiple tithes which would have pushed the total to around 23.3 percent, not the 10 percent which is generally considered the tithe amount today. Some understand the Old Testament tithe as a method of taxation to provide for the needs of the priests and Levites in the sacrificial system.

The New Testament nowhere commands, or even recommends, that Christians submit to a legalistic tithe system. Paul states that believers should set aside a portion of their income in order to support the church (1 Corinthians 16:1-2).

The New Testament nowhere designates a percentage of income a person should set aside, but only says it is to be “in keeping with income” (1 Corinthians 16:2). Some in the Christian church have taken the 10 percent figure from the Old Testament tithe and applied it as a “recommended minimum” for Christians in their giving.

The New Testament talks about the importance and benefits of giving. We are to give as we are able. Sometimes that means giving more than 10 percent; sometimes that may mean giving less. It all depends on the ability of the Christian and the needs of the church. Every Christian should diligently pray and seek God’s wisdom in the matter of participating in tithing and/or how much to give (James 1:5).

Above all, all tithes and offerings should be given with pure motives and an attitude of worship to God and service to the body of Christ. “Each man should give what he has decided in his heart to give, not reluctantly or under compulsion, for God loves a cheerful giver” (2 Corinthians 9:7)."

INC does not practice tithing because it is not a commandment in the Christian Era, this law is from the Old testament so what the INC teaches to its members is to contribute wholeheartedly, and should give happily not forced. Our offerings are not compulsory but voluntary, we are not forced, manipulated and commanded to give as what the bible says:

"Let each one [give] as he has made up his own mind and purposed in his heart, not reluctantly or sorrowfully or under compulsion ..." II Cor. 9:7, The Amplified Bible

Where does the INC get funds on its activities, building of houses of worship, buying of properties, maintenance of houses of worship, building infrastructure projects, and so on?

All of these came from only one source--> voluntary contribution of INC members. The church does not have any investments, or does have businesses which purposed to make profit. And all of these are not for the purpose of extravagance or fame and whatsoever, but we always dedicate these for the glory of our Almighty God--the Father.

Is it unfair if some companies prefer Iglesia ni Cristo members?

Some nonmembers are complaining about the companies which prefer Iglesia ni Cristo members, and give other benefits like being regular to the work and so on. I just dont understand why they think negatively about it and say its unfair and they will blame the Iglesia ni Cristo instead of those companies.

Let us read the answer in the Pasugo Magazine:


Question: Does your church, in any way, have business ties with companies? Why would they prefer hiring members of your church over nonmembers? Dont you think this practice is unfair to those who do not belong to your church?


Answer: In her attempt to help jobless but qualified members of the Iglesia ni Cristo to find jobs and become productive citizens, the church has put up the JOB PLACEMENT OFFICE (JPO) now operating in the central office compound in Diliman, Quezon City. This office coordinates with the companies that are interested in hiring our brethren into their work force . The brethren, on the other hand, are being informed about these job opportunities.

After careful screening of Job applicants, through the JPO, the church recommends members who qualify for the positions. This ensures the companies the service they desire from those who are accepted in the workplace.

The fact that the members of the Iglesia ni Cristo are known to be truly disciplined and industrious, being guided by biblical teachings on the practice of labor, may probably have contributed greatly to the alleged preference of company personnel managers.

There is no unfairness practiced here as far as the church is concerned. The church merely helps by informing her members about job opportunities and by coordinating with the companies concerned. Members of the church who get recommendation to work also undergo the same series of tests and interviews intended for all job applicants regardless of their religious affiliation.

source: Pasugo Issue July-August 1992


I know nothing that there are jobs from small to big companies, that accept ONLY Iglesia ni Cristo members, and that there are job positions that intended ONLY for Iglesia ni Cristo members. THERE ARE NONE.

They may PREFER INC members but they do not require their employees to be INC members, and being an INC member is not their no.1 QUALIFICATION for the jobs as they still accept applicants who are not members of the church.

Let us face the reality, some companies prefer INC members because the church prohibits its members on joining labor unions, as of biblical matters. Ive shown you the fact because im not bias. But that's not the only advantage they will get from INC members, they are known from being hardworking and does have discipline:

“The members are well-disciplined churchmen and they are exemplary citizens of the nation.”
(Gerald H. Anderson, editor ,Studies in Philippine church history, p. 364)

In the process, the INC was able to maintain its reputation as a group of law abiding, peaceful citizens. God-fearing, reasonable,dependable, hardworking citizens."
("Walking a tight rope", Editorial, The Philippine Star, July 20, 1991)

I am not saying that Catholics and Protestants are not industrious and doesnt have discipline, and i am not saying that ALL INC MEMBERS have discipline and are industrious. Its just that, most people (open minded people) have good impression about INC members.

I just clarify these things because i know some here will react^^

I wonder why nonmembers, mostly Catholic react that way like saying the INC is unfair just because big companies like SM malls prefer INC members. If it should be the way we should think, i think we should also react on how Catholic schools abroad discriminate applicants who are non catholics:

Want a teaching Job? then become a Catholic
The job market is tough right now. I can tell you from experience that finding a teaching job in certain markets is *really* hard right now since many districts are laying people off left and right.
Some teachers in Canada are resorting to extreme tactics to secure a position: They’re pretending to be Catholic:

“I don’t particularly like going (to mass) every Sunday, but if this is what I have to do, then I’ll do it,” said a Toronto-area woman, who didn’t want to be identified.
“I just really want to be in a career. I just want it so badly.”
The teacher said she has also been going to confession regularly and speaking with a priest on a weekly basis in order to receive the documents she needs to apply to the Toronto Catholic District School Board.
She is not Catholic. In fact, she doesn’t consider herself religious.
…
“I know what I believe in. I support abortion. I support gay marriage,” she added.
“I’m going through what I have to go through to get a job. I know it sounds bad.”

My favorite quotation has to be this one:

“I haven’t gone for my, um, what do you call it the bread thing yet… Communion. I’m nervous about it,” she added.

Ah yes, the bread thing…

Under the rules for the Toronto Catholic District School Board, all teaching personnel and others who work directly with children need to be Catholic.

It’s really incredible about Catholic schools. You have to adhere to the faith. (Or pretend to, anyway.) But it’s very telling to me that they don’t say “all teaching personnel… must be certified in the subject area in which they teach.” Because that’s not a necessity at many Catholic schools. It’s part of the reason I’m amazed some parents choose to send their kids to Catholic schools when there are perfectly decent public schools nearby.
As I read the article, I just keep thinking of how desperate for work some of these people have to be. At least where I’m from, Catholic school teachers at some schools make less than half of what a public school teacher makes. You don’t get the same benefits, either.
(Update: I’m told by commenters that in Ontario, Canada, Catholic schoolteachers make as much or more than their public school counterparts. The Catholic schools are also publicly funded and they actually receive more money per student than public schools. That’s pretty messed up…)
Here’s a random hypothetical for you: You’re an atheist teacher who can’t get a job in the public schools (for whatever reason). Would you take a job at a Catholic school if you had the opportunity?
source: patheos.com

Religion should not be a hindrance for anyone who's applying for a job, there might be some events that a particular group of people are preferred to get the job, that's not being unfair, the employers or the companies have their reasons why and we should respect it.