"Ipaglaban mo nang puspusan ang pananampalataya. Panghawakan mong mabuti ang buhay na walang hanggan, dahil diyan ka tinawag ng Diyos nang ipahayag mo sa harap ng maraming saksi ang iyong pananalig kay Cristo." I Tim. 6:12
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April 16, 2013

Imoralidad sa Iglesia ni Cristo?

Ang layunin ng post na ito ay hindi sa kung ano pa man kundi upang ilahad ang katotohanan sa lahat. Ang mga mapapag usapan dito ay pawang reyalidad, mga nangyayari sa totoong buhay. Bago sana natin basahin ang kabuuan nito ay buksan natin ang ating isip, wag maging over sensitive o over reacting. 

Sabi nga sa bibliya:
"makikilala ninyo ang katotohanan, at ang katotohanan ang magpapalaya sa inyo." Juan 8:32

Ang katotohanan ang magpapalaya sa atin. Kaya dapat tinatanggap natin ang katotohanan kahit masakit, dahil ang katotohanan ay katotohananan.

Isa sa nangungunang mga atake ng marami ngayon lalo na sa internet ang sinasabi nilang "imoralidad sa Iglesia ni Cristo". Sinasabi nila, ganyan ba ang tunay na iglesia? may pumapatay, may nanghahalay, gumagamit ng dahas at kung ano ano pa, at kineklaim nyo pang kayo lang ang maliligtas, ganyan ba ang maliligtas?...

Bago natin puntahan yang favorite nilang gawain, ang mag post ng mga litrato ng mga pahayagan kung saan nasangkot ang mga kaanib at mga may tungkulin sa masasamang bagay, gusto ko munang linawin ang TOTOO naming aral, hindi yung ipinipilit ng marami na "ARAL" daw namin kuno na ang intindi kasi nila sa aral ng Iglesia ni Cristo eh kapag nag Iglesia ka automatically maliligtas ka na kahit gumawa ka pa ng masama....


Ang Iglesiang kay Kristo lamang ang maliligtas

Para sa ikaaalam ng karamihan, ang doktrinang "the church is necessary for salvation" o "outside the church there is no salvation" ay hindi imbento ng Iglesia ni Cristo dahil ito po ay nasa bibliya. Katunayan, mismong ang Roman Catholic Church po eh may doktrina ring ganyan:


"The Latin phrase extra Ecclesiam nulla salus means: "outside the church there is no salvation".The most recent Catholic Catechism interpreted this to mean that "all salvation comes from Christ the Head through the Church which is his Body."
source: wikipedia

 Ganoon din naman ang Iglesia ni Mr. Soriano, ayon sa kanilang doktrina:

"The Members Church of God International affiliates to the only true church of God first preached in Jerusalem during the 1st century AD and brings the message of salvation to the world. The church of God is the Kingdom of God on earth and is necessary for one's salvation. Those who have heard of the gospel and of the church must join this church in order to be saved."

source: wikipedia

Mga protestante lang naman ang hindi naniniwala na hindi na daw kailangan ng "Church" para maligtas. Pero kung nagbabasa kayo ng bibliya, alam nyo ang tungkol dito.

Ngayon, puntahan natin ang bibliya, ano ba ang sinasabi ng bibliya tungkol dito?

Alam nating lahat na si Kristo ay may itinayong IGLESIA:

"At sinasabi ko sa iyo, ikaw ay Pedro, at sa ibabaw ng batong ito ay itatayo ko ang aking iglesya at ang pintuan ng daigdig ng mga patay ay hindi magtatagumpay laban sa kanya." Mat. 16:18

Inihalintulad ang kaugnayan ng Iglesia kay Kristo sa mag-asawa:


"23Sapagkat ang lalaki ang ulo ng kanyang asawa, tulad ni Cristo na siyang ulo ng iglesya, na kanyang katawan, at siyang Tagapagligtas nito.
24 Kung paanong nasasakop ni Cristo ang iglesya, gayundin naman, ang mga babae ay dapat pasakop nang lubusan sa kanilang asawa.               
25 Mga lalaki, mahalin ninyo ang inyong asawa na gaya ng pagmamahal ni Cristo sa iglesya. Inihandog niya ang kanyang buhay para sa iglesya
26 upang ialay ito sa Diyos, matapos linisin sa pamamagitan ng tubig at ng salita.
27 Ginawa niya ito upang ang iglesya ay maiharap niya sa kanyang sarili bilang isang maluwalhating iglesya na walang anumang dungis ni kulubot man upang ito ay maging banal at walang kapintasan.
28 Gayundin naman, dapat mahalin ng mga lalaki ang kanilang asawa tulad ng sarili nilang katawan. Ang lalaking nagmamahal sa kanyang asawa ay nagmamahal sa kanyang sarili.
29 Walang taong namumuhi sa sarili niyang katawan. Sa halip, ito'y kanyang pinapakain at inaalagaan, tulad ng ginagawa ni Cristo sa iglesya.
30 Tayo nga'y mga bahagi ng kanyang katawan.
31 Gaya ng sinasabi sa kasulatan, "Dahil dito'y, iiwan ng lalaki ang kanyang ama't ina, at magsasama sila ng kanyang asawa; at sila'y magiging isa."
32 Ito ay isang dakilang hiwaga na aking inihahayag tungkol sa kaugnayan ni Cristo sa iglesya."
Efe. 5:22-32

Si Kristo ang ulo at ang Iglesia naman ang kaniyang katawan, sinabi rin na si KRISTO ang TAGAPAGLIGTAS nito.

Kung siya ang tagapagligtas ng Iglesiang kaniyang itinayo, ano ang dapat nating gawin? Ano bang sinabi ng ating Panginoong Hesukristo?

  "Ako nga ang pintuan. Ang sinumang pumapasok sa pamamagitan ko'y maliligtas..." Juan 10:9

"Sumagot si Jesus, Ako ang daan, ang katotohanan, at ang buhay. Walang makakapunta sa Ama kundi sa pamamagitan ko." Juan 14:6

Dapat pala nating pasukan si Kristo, pero eto ba yung literal na papasok tayo sa katawan niya? Hindi. Ang ibig sabihin lamang ng mga sinabi ni Kristo MISMO na kailangan ang pag-anib sa kaniyang iglesia upang maligtas, eto nga yung "the church is necessary for salvation" na tinatawag. At kung sinabi niya rin na walang makakapunta sa Diyos, ang AMA, kundi sa pamamagitan NIYA, kayo na mismo ang tatanungin ko, may kaligtasan ba sa labas ng tunay niyang Iglesia?

Eh ano naman ang pangalan ng Iglesiang itinatag ni Kristo?
"Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed your overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood." Acts 20:28 (Lamsa translation) 
"Magbatian kayo ng banal na halik. Bumabati sa inyo ang mga iglesia ni Cristo" Romans 16:16

Bakit naman Iglesia ni Cristo/Church of Christ? 

Bakit hindi Members Church of God International? Bakit hindi One holy catholic apostolic roman church? Bakit hindi Baptist Church? Bakit hindi Jehovas Witnesses? Bakit hindi Lutheran Church? Bakit hindi Orthodox Church? Bakit hindi Methodist Church? Bakit hindi Seventh Day Adventist? at kung ano ano pa...?

Ang sabi sa bibliya:
"Ang Jesus na ito, 'Ang batong itinakwil ninyong mga tagapagtayo ng bahay,
ang siyang naging batong-panulukan.' Sa kanya lamang matatagpuan ang kaligtasan, sapagkat walang ibang pangalan ng sinumang tao sa buong mundo na ibinigay ng Diyos sa mga tao upang tayo ay maligtas." Gawa 4:11-12

Wala palang PANGALAN sa sinuman tao sa buong mundo na SUKAT natin ikaligtas, kundi sa pangalan ng ating tagapamagitan at tagapagligtas na si Hesukristo. Sa kanya LAMANG pala matatagpuan ang KALIGTASAN.

Ngayon, IMBENTO lang ba ng Iglesia ni Cristo ang tungkol sa kaugnayan ng iglesia sa KALIGTASAN NG TAO? Kung hindi pa rin po kayo naniniwala, suggestion ko, basahin nyo po ang New Testament para malaman nyo ang katotohanan. 

Isa pa, hindi porke natupad mo na ang "isa sa mga utos" opo, ang pagpasok sa TUNAY NA IGLESIA ay isa lamang sa mga utos, hindi porke nakapasok na sa tunay na Iglesia LIGTAS AGAD AGAD. Hindi po ganyan ang doktrina sa INC, kailangan pa rin po siyempre ang pagbabagong buhay at paggawa ng kabutihan o pagsunod sa katuran ng Diyos. Inshort, kailangan ng GAWA para maligtas, importante po ang GAWA hindi pananampalataya lamang:

"Anong pakikinabangin, mga kapatid ko, kung sinasabi ng sinoman na siya'y may pananampalataya, nguni't walang mga gawa? makapagliligtas baga sa kaniya ang pananampalatayang iyan" Santiago 2:14
"Imoralidad sa Iglesia ni Cristo"

Sasabihin ng ilan, oh sige, tanggap ko na na may kaugnayan ang iglesia sa kaligtasan, pero kahit kailan hindi ko matatanggap na ililigtas ni Kristo ang Iglesia nyo dahil may mga myembro kayo na gumagawa ng masama!

Una, gusto ko pong klaruhin na hindi porke nag Iglesia ni Cristo ka ay AUTOMATICALLY ligtas ka na o maliligtas ka kahit gumagawa ka ng masama at kahit hindi mo sinusunod ang aral sa INC. Wala po kaming doktrinang ganyan.

Para sa akin, may dalawang uri ng myembro sa Iglesia ni Cristo, isang TUNAY at isang PEKE.

Ang tunay na Iglesia ni Cristo ay sumusunod sa mga aral nito na aral naman ng Diyos, siya ay nagbabagong buhay at isinasabuhay ang lahat na kaniyang natutunan sa pagka INC. Ang peke na myembro sa Iglesia ni Cristo, ay yung Iglesia ni Cristo lang sa pangalan, kumbaga sa membership lang siya Iglesia ni Cristo pero sa totoo at sa loob loob niya eh hindi naman niya sinusunod ang aral at hindi rin siya nagbabagong buhay. 

Kaya ang maliligtas ay yung mga TOTOO AT TUNAY NA IGLESIA NI CRISTO, at hindi yung mga peke.

Pangalawa, hindi rin po porke Iglesia ni Cristo ka eh PERPEKTO ka na, na hindi ka na nakakagawa ng masama, na puro kabutihan lang ang ginagawa. Hindi rin po porke sumasamba kami 2 beses sa isang linggo eh mga BANAL na kami. Hindi po ganun yon.

Sabi nga sa bibliya:

"Kung sinasabi nating tayo'y walang kasalanan, dinadaya natin ang ating sarili at wala sa atin ang katotohanan. Subalit kung ipinapahayag natin sa Diyos ang ating mga kasalanan, maaasahan nating patatawarin tayo ng Diyos sa mga ito, at lilinisin tayo sa lahat ng ating kasalanan, sapagkat siya'y tapat at matuwid. Kung sinasabi nating hindi tayo nagkakasala, ginagawa nating sinungaling ang Diyos, at wala sa atin ang kanyang salita." I juan 8-10

Lahat ng tao ay makasalanan: 

"Ano ngayon? Ang kalagayan ba nating mga Judio ay mas mabuti a kaysa sa mga Hentil? Hindi! Tulad na nga ng aming sinabi, ang lahat ng tao ay makasalanan, maging Judio o Hentil man. Ayon sa nasusulat, "Walang matuwid, wala kahit isa." Roma 3:9-10

 Si KRISTO po lamang ang taong hindi nagkasala:

"Ang pagtitiis ng hirap ay bahagi ng pagkatawag sa inyo ng Diyos, sapagkat nang si Cristo ay magtiis para sa inyo, binigyan niya kayo ng isang halimbawang dapat tularan. Hindi siya gumawa ng anumang kasalanan, o nagsinungaling kailanman." I ped. 2:21-22

Kapag sinabi po namin na lahat ng tao ay nagkasala (wala naman sigurong tututol) hindi namin sinasabi na OKAY lang magkasala, hindi excuse yon para gumawa ng masama. Ang punto doon eh hindi maiiwasan ng tao ang magkasala pero kahit ganoon, dapat manaig pa rin ang paggawa ng kabutihan.

Pangatlo, pag sinabi naming kami lang ang maliligtas (o Iglesia ni Cristo lang ang maliligtas) hindi namin sinasabing LAHAT ng hindi Iglesia ni Cristo ay AUTOMATICALLY MAPUPUNTA AT MAPAPARUSAHAN SA DAGAT-DAGATANG APOY.

Panghuli, wala pong doktrina sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang nagsasabing wag ka magbagong buhay, gumawa ka ng masama, wag mong susundin ang turo sa iglesia na nasa bibliya, magnakaw ka, manghalay ka, pumatay ka, maglasing ka, at kung ano ano pa. 

Kung kayo po ay makakakita ng mga INC members na nasa gawang masama, hindi po ito "bunga ng BANAL na aral ng Iglesia ni Cristo" kung sabihin ng ilan, walang aral at walang utos sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang ginawa nila, kundi NILALABAG nila ang aral ng iglesia.

Kaya nga ayon na mismo sa isang hindi INC member:
"The Iglesia teaches a regimented lifestyle. The church has an all-Filipino leadership and has a close-knit authoritarian organization. Church attendance is checked. Nonattenders are visited by the deacons. Ex-communication is practised. Causes that lead to the severance from the church include excessive drinking, immorality, gambling, marriage outside the church, apostacy and disagreement with administrative policies.
Julita Reyes Sta. Roman comments: "The Iglesia pays attention to every little thing and it requires a lot of patience, tact, and courage from the deacons and ministers. It is the duty of and business of local unit officials and even members to watch the behaviour of co-members and report anything they observe, see, or hear to the deacons. Whatever the problems or troubles are the deacons will try their best to resolve."  

source: reforemedreflections.ca Johan D. Tangelder

Ang mga kapatid na nasusumpungan sa pagsuway o masasamang gawa ay kinakausap, pinapayuhan, at pinapaalalahanan sa mga katuruan ng Diyos. At kung hindi na siya makaya ng mga maytungkulin sa Iglesia pagkatapos ng paulit ulit na pagsaway, ayon na rin mismo sa bibliya:

"God will judge those outside. “Expel the wicked person from among you.” I Cor. 5:13 

Kaya sana simula ngayon ay wag tayong manghuhusga na porke may mga INC members na gumagawa ng masama ibig sabihin sa demonyo agad ang INC, sa halip na ang mga gawa ng mga myembro ang tawaging "sa demonyo" eh sinasabi nila at dinadamay ang pangalan ng Iglesia ni Cristo na sa demonyo. Hindi po nirerepresenta ng ilang myembro o maytungkulin o ministro ang Iglesia ni Cristo, porke may ginawa silang masama eh magrereflect na sa church as a whole.

Puntahan na natin ang favorite nilang gawin, ang pagpapakalat sa internet ng mga pictures ng mga pahayagan kung saan nasangkot ang mga myembro ng INC, at sasabihin nila na "ganito pala sa Iglesia ni Cristo" o kaya naman ay "ganyan talaga yang mga Iglesia ni Manalo, mga mamamatay tao, mga rapist, masasamang tao etc." 

Dahil lang mayroong ilang mga kaanib ang nasangkot eh dinadamay ang IGLESIA as a whole? tsk

Sinerch ko ang lahat ng ito, opo, LAHAT na larawan ng pahayagan na kanilang ikinakalat kung saan nasangkot sa masasamang gawa ang mga myembro ng Iglesia ni Cristo. Ito po ay para ipakita at ipatunay sa inyo na pawang mga katotohanan lang ang aking sinasabi at sa katotohanan ako. Pagbigyan na natin ang mga asar na asar sa INC, makikita kasi nila sa mismong INC blog, alam na alam kong tuwang tuwa sila, dun sila kasi nasisiyahan...

O sige pagbibigyan ko kayo wag kayong mag alala, game, magpalakpakan na at magalak na, na parang walang bukas... (napaghahalataan tuloy)





Sasabihin ng ilan, "Bakit ganyan? Bat may Iglesiang ganyan??!"


Hindi ko na sasagutin ang tanong na yan. Ilalahad ko na lang ang FACTS.

Facts:

Walang isang Iglesia ni Cristo ang PERPEKTO.
Lahat ng Iglesia ni Cristo, mapa myembro, maytungkulin, ministro at iba pa ay nagkakasala.
Walang aral sa Iglesia ni Cristo ang nagsasabi at nag uutos na gumawa ka ng masama.

Walang taong hindi nagkasala. (pwera sa ating Panginoong Hesukristo)
Walang relihiyon sa buong mundo na walang miyembro ang HINDI NAGKASALA.
Walang relihiyon sa buong mundo (pwera mga kulto) ang nagsasabi at nag uutos na gumawa ang kanilang myembro ng masasama.


Sa katunayan, ang mismong may kagagawan ng pagpapakalat na ito, ang Iglesia ni Mr. Soriano, hindi nila maidedeny na mismong lider nila eh maraming eskandalong naisapahayagan, at opo, sinearch ko rin ang mga yon. At sa pagsesearch kong yon napatunayan na di hamak na mas sikat si Mr. Soriano kesa sa mga INC members na nasangkot sa mga masasamang gawain, paano ko nasabi? 

Eto po:


At hindi lang si Mr. Soriano ang nasangkot sa mga masasamang gawain ng kahalayan, kundi pati ang kaniyang mga myembro.

Eto po:




CAMP OLIVAS, Pampanga — Several unlicensed guns and undetermined pieces of ammunition were seized by combined police operatives of the Quezon City Police District and Apalit police during a raid at the temple of Eli Soriano’s "Ang Dating Daan" in Barangay Sampaloc, Apalit, Pampanga Monday evening.
In his report to Senior Superintendent Leonardo Espina, Pampanga provincial police director, Chief Inspector Mar Dayag, Apalit police chief, said the seized items include a bodyguard model caliber 30 shotgun, two pieces of caliber .38 revolvers and caliber .30 and M1 winchester rifle from the room of a certain Abner Martizano, reportedly an ADD minister and staying in one of the rooms located inside the compound.
Espina said the raiding team led by Quezon City Warrant and Subpoena Section personnel and members of the local police and Special Weapons and Tactics team, went to the temple to serve the warrant of arrest issued by the Midsayap, North Cotabato Regional Trial Court against Martizano for an alleged rape case.
But the raiding team failed to find Martizano and instead took with them several firearms and ammunition found inside his room.
Retired police Col. Domingo de Guzman, chief security officer of the ADD, assailed the raiding team for an "overkill" in its show of force and violation of the proper procedure in serving an arrest warrant.
He said the actuation made by the raiding team was a gross violation of human rights.
"We were deprived of our rights by the policemen who were all dressed in full-battle-gear. Our temple is not a haven of criminals, why should these policemen act like they’re going to war," De Guzman stressed.
He said the firearms seized by the police were service firearms of the security guards detailed at the main gate and the Larlin gate. The raiding team also took the audio recorder of the security cameras before they left on board L300 vans.
De Guzman reported the incident and had it on record at the office of the 3rd Criminal Investigation and Detection Unit (3CIDU).
He said the ADD is planning to file criminal charges in court against the raiding team.
Soriano was not around during the raid and was attending a Bible Expo and the 25th anniversary celebration of the ADD at the Araneta Coliseum in Cubao, Quezon City, said De Guzman.

source: thebearens.net

At sino to? Diba si Mr. Danny Navales to na MIC ng ang dating daan?




Naku... Tsk. tsk. tsk.

Di na lang po ako magkokomento!^^

Ano pa?

Sa mga Protestante, meron din ba?

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 sex abuse cases a year

The three companies that insure the majority of Protestant churches in America say they typically receive upward of 260 reports each year of young people under 18 being sexually abused by clergy, church staff, volunteers or congregation members.
The figures released to The Associated Press offer a glimpse into what has long been an extremely difficult phenomenon to pin down — the frequency of sex abuse in Protestant congregations.

Religious groups and victims’ supporters have been keenly interested in the figure ever since the Roman Catholic sex abuse crisis hit five years ago. The church has revealed that there have been 13,000 credible accusations against Catholic clerics since 1950.

Protestant numbers have been harder to come by and are sketchier because the denominations are less centralized than the Catholic church; indeed, many congregations are independent, which makes reporting even more difficult.

Some of the only numbers come from three insurance companies — Church Mutual Insurance Co., GuideOne Insurance Co. and Brotherhood Mutual Insurance Co.

Together, they insure 165,495 churches and worship centers for liability against child sex abuse and other sexual misconduct, mostly Protestant congregations but a few other faiths as well. They also insure more than 5,500 religious schools, camps and other organizations.

The companies represent a large chunk of all U.S. Protestant churches. There are about 224,000 in the U.S., according to the Association of Statisticians of American Religious Bodies, although that number excludes most historically black denominations and some other groups, which account for several thousand congregations.

Church Mutual, GuideOne and Brotherhood Mutual each provided statistics on sex abuse claims to The Associated Press, although they did not produce supporting documentation or a way to determine whether the reports were credible.

The largest company, Church Mutual, reported an average of about 100 sex abuse cases a year involving minors over the past decade. GuideOne, which has about half the clients of Church Mutual, said it has received an average of 160 reports of sex abuse against minors every year for the past two decades.

Brotherhood Mutual said it has received an average of 73 reports of child sex abuse and other sexual misconduct every year for the past 15 years. However, Brotherhood does not specify which victims are younger than 18 so it is impossible to accurately add that to the total cases.

Abuse reports do not always mean the accused was guilty, and they do not necessarily result in financial awards or settlements, the companies said. The reports include accusations against clergy, church staff and volunteers.

Even with hundreds of cases a year “that’s a very small number. That probably doesn’t even constitute half,” said Gary Schoener, director of the Walk-In Counseling Center in Minneapolis, a consultant on hundreds of Protestant and Catholic clergy misconduct cases. “Sex abuse in any domain, including the church, is reported seldom. We know a small amount actually come forward.”

Tom Farr, general counsel and senior vice president of claims for GuideOne, based in West Des Moines, Iowa, said most abuse cases are resolved privately in court-ordered mediation. Awards can range from millions of dollars down to paying for counseling for victims, he said.
One of the largest settlements to date in Protestant churches involved the case of former Lutheran minister Gerald Patrick Thomas Jr. in Texas, where a jury several years ago awarded the minister’s victims nearly $37 million (euro28 million). Separate earlier settlements involving Thomas cost an additional $32 million.

When insurance companies first started getting reports of abuse from churches nearly two decades ago, the cases usually involved abuse that happened many years earlier. But over the past several years, the alleged abuse is more recent, which could reflect a greater awareness about reporting abuse, insurance companies said.

Insurance officials said the number of sex abuse cases has remained steady over the past two decades, but they also said churches are working harder to prevent child sex abuse by conducting background checks, installing windows in nurseries and play areas and requiring at least two adults in a room with a child.

A victims’ advocacy group has said the Southern Baptists, the nation’s largest Protestant denomination, could do more to prevent abuse by creating a list of accused clergy the public and churches could access.

“These are things people are entitled to know,” said Christa Brown, a member of the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests, who says she was sexually abused as a child by a Southern Baptist minister. “The only way to prevent this crime is to break the code of silence and to have absolute transparency when allegations are raised.”

At the Southern Baptist Convention’s annual meeting in San Antonio this week, the Rev. Wade Burleson proposed a feasibility study into developing a national database of Southern Baptist ministers who have been “credibly accused of, personally confessed to, or legally been convicted of sexual harassment or abuse.”

A convention committee referred Burleson’s motion to the SBC executive committee, which will report back with findings and a recommendation at next year’s meeting in Indianapolis.
Southern Baptist President Frank Page said leaders are considering several options to help churches protect children against abuse.

“We believe that the Scripture teaches that the church should be an autonomous, independent organization,” Page said. “We encourage churches to hold accountable at the local level those who may have misused the trust of precious children and youth.”

Several years ago, the Baptist General Convention of Texas, which represents moderates who have increasingly distanced themselves from the conservative-led Southern Baptists, started a list of accused clergy for churches, but not the public. Under pressure from victim advocates, the Texas group just released the names of some convicted sex offenders who may have been ministers in local congregations.

Joe Trull, editor of Christian Ethics Today and retired ethics professor at New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary, helped the Texas convention create its registry and says there are now about 11 cases involving clergy abuse with minors.

But he believes these are just the “tip of the iceberg” because churches don’t have to report abuse cases to the registry and aren’t likely to.

“The problem we’re having is that churches just weren’t sending the names,” Trull said. “In the normal scenario, they just try to keep it secret. We’re going to have to be more proactive and let them know if they don’t come forward, they’re helping to perpetuate this problem.”
source: insurancejournal.com

Eh ang Roman Catholic Church?

Naku, alam na alam na natin ang tungkol sa mga abuse cases nila! 

Kelangan ko pa bang patunayan? ^^

Oh sige, para sa mga di nakakaalam, hindi balita ang ilalagay ko kundi kung ano ba ito, dahil WORLDWIDE po itong usapin na ito kaya imposible ring hindi alam ng buong mundo ang mga ginawa ng mga pari, bishops, at iba pa...

"The Catholic sex abuse cases are a series of convictions, trials and investigations into allegations of child sexual abuse crimes committed by Catholic priests and members of Roman Catholic orders against children as young as 3 years old with the majority between the ages of 11 and 14. These cases included anal sex, and oral penetration, and there have been criminal prosecutions of the abusers and civil lawsuits against the church's dioceses and parishes. 

Many of the cases span several decades and are brought forward years after the abuse occurred. Cases have also been brought against members of the Catholic hierarchy who did not report sex abuse allegations to the legal authorities. It has been shown they deliberately moved sexually abusive priests to other parishes where the abuse sometimes continued.This has led to a number of fraud cases where the Church has been accused of misleading victims by deliberately relocating priests accused of abuse instead of removing them from their positions."

source: wikipedia


Imoralidad sa Iglesia ni Cristo: TINOTOLERATE BA?

Ito ang isa sa mga masasabi kong bagay na magaling sa INC, hinding hindi tinotolerate ang mga masasamang gawa ng mga myembro, maytungkulin at kahit pa mga ministro. Lalo na ngayon, napakastrikto at napakahigpit na ng pamamahala sa mga paglabag, tanungin nyo pa lahat ng kapatid sa INC.

Halimbawa na lang ang pag-aasawa sa tagasanlibutan, dati ang alam ko pag nakabuntis o nabuntis ng di kapananampalataya pwede pang solusyunan, papadoktrinahan yung boyfriend o girlfriend, ngayon iba na, automatic ITITIWALAG agad. Ito po ay base sa aking nalalaman (pwede akong icorrect ng mga kapatid). At kahit pa INC member to INC member, basta hindi pa kasal at nabuntis o nakabuntis ay itinitiwalag na. Isama na rin diyan ang mga naglilive in.

Ganyan kahigpit ngayon. Mahigpit din sa mga maytungkulin, manggagawa lalo na sa ministro kahit dati pa, at lalong lalo na sa pananalapi. Lahat ng ulat dapat accurate, at dapat naipapasa on time, hindi pwedeng may mali sa mga resibo kundi mananagot ang pananalapi damay na ang ministro doon.

Kaya nga sa lektura ng Ka Erano Manalo dati na ginagamit ng mga kampon ni Mr. Soriano ngayon, ano ba ang kaniyang sabi?

 "Kaya hilingin natin sa Dios, sa ating muling pananalangin na sana'y mabuksan ang ating pag-iisip. 'Wag ninyong tanggapin ang mga salitang ito na paris ng salitang kapagdaramdam ang sabi nga ni Pablo. Tanggapin sana ninyo na ang mga salitang 'yan, siyang kailangan natin, siyang gamot sa matinding sakit na maa-aring pumatay sa atin at sa iglesia. 
Pagkatapos hilingin nating tayo'y kasangkapanin ng Dios para ito'y makarating sa lahat ng kaliit-liitang manggagawa. At hinihiling ko sa Dios, 'yung mga manggagawang tapat lalo na iyong mga manggagawang ginugugol ang buhay nila sa paglalakbay para makarating sa destino, at ang kanilang buhay ay talagang nakahandog na sa Dios!...Iyon ay pagpalain. Pagpalain ng Dios kung hindi ko man sila nakikita, kung hindi ko man nasiyasat ang kanilang mga kalagayan ...sa dami nga ng nagkatabun-tabong mga ulat, pero ang Dios...hinihiling ko sa kanya...itindig 'nya ang mga tapat na manggagawa. Basbasan 'nya, palakasin 'nya! Kung hindi man maging sagana sa buhay na ito't maaring ikahiwalay pa 'nya, makatapos manlang siya ng takbuhin...ang iglesia'y madala 'nyang karapat-dapat..." 
"Pero gusto kong maging saksi ang mga kapatid nating buhay ngayon, lalo na ang mga...nakakita ng hirap at sakit ng sugo at 'tsaka ng iglesia na...hindi natin kukunsintihin ang ganitong masamang gawa. Puputulin natin 'yan, sukdulang walang mai-sugo ako sa pag-samba. Hihilingin ko sa Dios na siya ang gumawa ng paraan...pero hindi ko papayagan na kaylanpaman at pagkatapos ng pulong na ito ay maka...silip ako ng isa pang katiwalian, hindi ako papayag na hindi putulin 'yon...Pero sa paghahangad ko mga kapatid na...mabuhay pa kayo, maitayo pa kayo, magamot pa 'yan...kaya ako nagsalita ng buong tindi sa klaseng ito..."

Sa amin hindi tinotolerate at hindi pinapalagpas ang mga bagay na masasama kahit pa sa kaliit liitang bagay.

Eh sa Roman Catholic Church kaya, ano ba ang ginawa ng kanilang dating Pope Benedict XVI?





Kayo na po ang humusga.

Ang punto ng post kong ito ay hindi para tumakas sa katotohanang may mga INC members ang nagkamali at nagkasala kaya nagpost din ako tungkol sa Iglesia ni Mr. Soriano, sa Roman Catholic Church at sa mga Protestante. Hindi ganoon ang layunin ko. Ang layunin ko ay upang mabuksan ang inyong ISIPAN na kahit kaming mga Iglesia ni Cristo ay nagkakasala din tulad ng marami dahil mga tao lang din naman kami tulad nyo, na kahit pa iclaim namin na ang INC lang ang maliligtas base sa bibliya, hindi nun ibig sabihin na LAHAT NG INC MEMBER maliligtas kahit gumagawa ng masama.

Ayon nga sa bibliya:

 "Ngunit ang mananatiling tapat hanggang wakas ang siyang maliligtas" Mat. 24: 13

Kung sino ang mananatiling TAPAT, tapat sa pagsunod sa aral ng Diyos hanggang wakas ay ang siyang maliligtas.

Saan ba mapupunta ang masasama?

"But cowards, traitors, perverts, murderers, the immoral, those who practice magic, those who worship idols, and all liars—the place for them is the lake burning with fire and sulfur, which is the second death." Rev. 21:8

Kasama pala ang sumasamba sa mga diyos diyosan, oh, ingat po!^^



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June 15, 2012

Do we hate those people who are not INC members?


One of the many misconceptions of nonmembers is that we, INC members hate people who are Catholics, protestants and so on because they have different beliefs with us.

They see our ministers in television, radio and in personal debunking their beliefs, but the question is, is this the very proof the WE HATE THEM?

Honest answer. NO.

Why?

Because it is very NORMAL not to agree with other beliefs which is for us, were wrong beliefs. Coming to the point that we debate and argue with them concerning our beliefs, but that is not a very big reason for us to hate them as individuals. What we are against is about their false beliefs, which violates god's commandments and make them attain not salvation but curses from god that is why before there will be regrets, we are educating them the TRUTH which are written in the bible.

We are not selfish that we keep that truth to ourselves, that's the reason why we are continually inviting nonmembers to KNOW the CHURCH DOCTRINES. And if they think that what we believe is wrong then we can do nothing about it, atleast we had the chance to introduce them to the church so that when judgment day comes, they will not blame us for not inviting them to the church... Every member of the church does have the duty to spread the words of god by inviting them, not by means of preaching, and if they accept it or not its not our problem...


About debates and arguments


It is not normal for religions with different beliefs to agree each other, if that will be the case then there should only be ONE CHURCH worldwide, no sects, no denominations, no cults, no other independent churches. The only reason why christian churches multiplied because of DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS of the bible, it is also the reason why the Church of Christ in the 1st century, the church which Christ built, had fallen to apostasy.

If you see a catholic agrees with a protestant out of biblical concern, its normal. But if you see a catholic agrees with a protestant concerning her/his beliefs, then there is a problem.

That's also the same with the Iglesia ni Cristo members, Catholics and Protestants. You can see us ARGUE with our beliefs, but the purpose of that is not to promote hatred and so on, but we do is that we are fixing and solving biblical matters whom someone will benefit for the sake of the truth.


On ministers debunking other religion


Ministers in the INC do not attack Catholics and Protestants personally, and the word "attack" is not the best word to describe what are ministers do in television, radio and in worship services, their objective is not to hurt the feelings of other people but to CORRECT THEIR ERRONEOUS BELIEFS by comparing it to what was written in the bible, only the bible, because:

"Since you were a child you have known the Holy Scriptures which are able to make you wise. And that wisdom leads to salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful for teaching, for showing people what is wrong in their lives, for correcting faults, and for teaching how to live right. Using the Scriptures, the person who serves God will be capable, having all that is needed to do every good work." II Tim. 3: 15-17

Apostle Paul recommended to expose their wrong doings instead, and that's whats ministers are doing, not with the intention of hurting their feelings but showing the reality that what they believe are wrong:

"Take no part in and have no fellowship with the fruitless deeds and enterprises of darkness, but instead [let your lives be so in contrast as to] expose and reprove and convict them." Eph. 5:11


Non INC members are already destined to hell?


This is also one of the many misconceptions of non members to the INC, or i can also say that this is one of the many "attacks" on the church, they accuse the INC of having a belief that all non INC members will be automatically be in hell which make us judgmental, as what they say.

I want to make this clear, WE DO NOT HAVE THAT KIND OF BELIEF, what we believe is that Christ will save his church, the Church of Christ, because he is the savior of the church:

For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Ephesians 5:23

Christ is the head of the church, he is also the savior of the church, it doesnt say he is the savior of all people in the world with different beliefs. This is the proof that the church is NEEDED for SALVATION, not all people in this world are candidates for salvation, the proof is that there are those who will attain salvation and those who will be punished:

“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned." John 5:28-29

It will be unfair to those people who are good if God will save all including those people who done bad.
Examples of this is in the time of Noah, we know that God destroyed mankind and saved only 8 people including Noah in the great flood because of wickedness among people. The same happened when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed, only Lot and his two daughters were saved. The same with the ancient Israel, selected to be God's nation, they are chosen not because they are many:

“The Lord did not set his love on you nor choose you because you were more in number than any other people, for you were the least of all peoples. Deut. 7:7

What does these all mean? Does these mean God is unfair that he did not saved all people but chose what he liked? You know, God is not unfair, in fact, he wanted everyone to be saved:


"God wants everyone to be saved and to fully understand the truth.
" I tim. 2:4

In the verse above it is said that GOD WANTS or in other words, GOD WISHES everyone to be saved, it did not say, GOD WILL SAVE EVERYONE please let us always remember that. And how can God save all people if they had sinned and did not follow his commandments?

""Today I have given you the choice between life and death, between blessings and curses. Now I call on heaven and earth to witness the choice you make. Oh, that you would choose life, so that you and your descendants might live!" Deut. 30:19

It is in our choice and in our works if we will be saved by God or not. Those who had sinned will receive the second death, which will be in the lake of fire, this teaching is not an invention of Manalos' or ministers in the church as what nonmembers alleged, these are written in the bible:

"When people sin, they earn what sin pays—death. But God gives his people a free gift—eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord." Romans 6:23
"And Death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. This lake of fire is the second death." Rev. 20:14

How will we be saved? How will we attain the promised salvation? Can we receive it just by believing and not with works? Christ tells us how:


“I am the door; ANYONE WHO COMES INTO THE ‘FOLD’ THROUGH ME SHALL BE SAFE.” John 10:9

"I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6

We should enter Christ for us to be saved by him, he being the savior of the body, and he who purchased the church by his blood:


“Take heed therefore to yourselves and to all the flock over which the Holy Spirit has appointed you overseers, to feed the church of Christ which he has purchased with his blood” Acts 20:28 Lamsa Translation

How important is it when Christ purchased the church by his blood?

"In Christ we are set free by the blood of his death, and so we have forgiveness of sins..." Eph. 1:7
“Much more then, having now been justified by His blood, we shall be saved from the wrath of God through Him.Romans 5:9

If we enter Christ's church, there will be forgiveness of sins. Again, this is the very proof that the CHURCH is indeed NEEDED for SALVATION, and if anyone had heard this good news but did not believe, here is what the bible says:

"When that Man of Evil comes, it will be the work of Satan. He will come with great power, and he will do all kinds of false miracles, signs, and wonders. The Man of Evil will use every kind of evil to fool those who are lost.

They are lost because they refused to love the truth and be saved. So God will send them something powerful that leads them away from the truth and causes them to believe a lie. They will all be condemned because they did not believe the truth and because they enjoyed doing evil." II Thess. 2:9-12


What will happen to those who are not INC member prior to 1914 and those who are not reached with the evangelical works of the church?


The most asked question of nonmembers, finally, i can now answer this.

Ill make this clear once again, we believe that we are the ones who will be saved by Christ because we are members of his church. We do not believe that while we will be saved, ALL nonmembers will be AUTOMATICALLY be in hell, including those who are not reached by the gospel, and those who lived before 1914, this is just a misunderstanding of INC doctrines.

Now, there is a commandment written in the bible that the gospel will be preached around the world AS A WITNESS to all people, and then the end will come:

"And this good news of the kingdom (the Gospel) will be preached throughout the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then will come the end." Matt. 24:14

The Iglesia ni Cristo, Church of Christ is now in 100 countries and territories and continually spreading around the world. The verse said that the gospel will be preached AS A TESTIMONY TO ALL THE NATIONS, it did not say the gospel will be preached throughout the world and ALL PEOPLE will accept it automatically. So, it is not surprising if there are people who heard about the teachings in the Iglesia ni Cristo but did not accepted and believed.


Lets continue...

What will happen to those who lived before 1914?

"For all who have sinned without the law will also perish without the law, and all who have sinned under the law will be judged by the law." Romans 2:12

Those who lived with the law and have sinned (time of the 1st Century Church of Christ and the time reestablishment of Church of Christ in 1914 up to present) will be judged by the law, but those who lived without the law and have sinned (time when apostasy of the 1st Century Church of Christ began up to the reestablishment in 1914 or those who lived and have sinned before 1914) will be judged without the law.

Lets understand this well, let us continue reading Romans 2: 13-16 here is what stated:

"For it is not the hearers of the law who are righteous before God, but the doers of the law who will be justified. For when Gentiles, who do not have the law, by nature do what the law requires, they are a law to themselves, even though they do not have the law. They show that the work of the law is written on their hearts, while their conscience also bears witness, and their conflicting thoughts accuse or even excuse them on that day when, according to my gospel, God judges the secrets of men by Christ Jesus."

It is not important that you just know the teachings, what's important is you follow it. Like whats in the verses, even if the gentiles do not have the law, their conscience and their hearts will be their law, meaning, they will be judged by God based on what their heart and conscience dictates. For example, if killing is not prohibited in the bible, you should still not to kill someone because you know it is wrong.

The fate of those who lived before 1914 and those who are not reached with the evangelical works of the church are the same, it is God who will judge them:

"God will judge those outside. "Expel the wicked man from among you." I Cor. 5:13

So, this teaching, that Christ's church will be saved by him is not an invention of the Manalos or by the ministers in the church, because it is Christ who said that he is way and the life, he is the savior of the church and anyone who is apart from him can do NOTHING:

"I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing." John 15:5

It is indeed important not just to become an Iglesia ni Cristo member but should also follow and obey the church's doctrines and teachings.

And even you are not an INC member it is not a reason for us to HATE YOU, in fact, we have many friends who are Catholics, protestants, muslims, and so on. It is not true that we believe ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT INC MEMBER WILL BE AUTOMATICALLY BE IN HELL because there is still time, a chance to know the truth, the TRUE GOSPEL which are all written in the bible.